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WVHillbilly · Mar 3, 2013

We have a staking forum for a reason.

OMGITSOVER9K · Mar 3, 2013

just figured I'd post it here since more people would see it, and its not a full stake anyway just if anyone wanted to buy a % of me.

WVHillbilly · Mar 3, 2013

Still has to go in the right place. Otherwise we have chaos.

OMGITSOVER9K · Mar 3, 2013

fair enough.

hackmeplz · Mar 3, 2013

WVHillbilly said:
Still has to go in the right place. Otherwise we have chaos.

I think the correct term is freedom, therefore you must be a freedom-hating terrorist!

OMGITSOVER9K · Mar 3, 2013

**** it, i'm not 3betting AK anymore.. gonna treat it like AJ and just fold it to 3bets and flat it vs everyone.

atlantafalcons0 · Mar 3, 2013

OMGITSOVER9K said:
**** it, i'm not 3betting AK anymore.. gonna treat it like AJ and just fold it to 3bets and flat it vs everyone.

I do this at a full table. AJ, AQ, AK the same. I like to see the flop before I commit a lot of chips to a hand like these. If I'm shortstacked in a tournament I'll shove it all the time.

WVHillbilly · Mar 3, 2013

hackmeplz said:
I think the correct term is freedom, therefore you must be a freedom-hating terrorist!

Confirmed.

Ducky7 · Mar 4, 2013

OMGITSOVER9K said:
**** it, i'm not 3betting AK anymore.. gonna treat it like AJ and just fold it to 3bets and flat it vs everyone.

biggest weapon ever..

Ducky7 · Mar 4, 2013

OMGITSOVER9K said:
played 1500 hands just now, little bit annoyed so think i'm gonna take a break and come back in an hour or 2.

vs an 8/6 over 100 hands.. what do you do on each street? (pre as well)

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: $99.49
CO: $75.64
BTN: $50.00
Hero (SB): $67.44
BB: $57.75
UTG: $93.74

Hero posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has Q♦ Q♠

UTG raises to $1.50, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $1.25, fold

Flop: ($3.50, 2 players) 6♦ Q♥ K♣
Hero bets $2.00, UTG raises to $5.50, Hero calls $3.50

Turn: ($14.50, 2 players) A♣
Hero checks, UTG bets $7.00, Hero calls $7.00

River: ($28.50, 2 players) 7♦
Hero checks, UTG bets $18.50, Hero calls $18.50

100 hands is not a big enough sample to justify anything with, weve had this convo before, 3b and 5b pre please, prefer c/r OTF and bomb 3, also im check shoving turn or river for value as played

OMGITSOVER9K · Mar 4, 2013

not 3b/5b vs an 8/6 even if its over a small sample and expecting to get it in vs worse..

acky100 · Mar 4, 2013

3b 5b QQ there is spewing money you spewtard ducky

hackmeplz · Mar 4, 2013

acky100 said:
3b 5b QQ there is spewing money you spewtard ducky

+1 I think I flat that preflop against a 19/16.

Matt Vaughan · Mar 4, 2013

100 hands is plenty for an idea of vpip/pfr, especially when it's so low. Not like a 25/20 is going to have a 100-hand sample where they play 8/6 very often.

OMGITSOVER9K · Mar 4, 2013

PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $35.90
SB: $26.22
BB: $13.21
UTG: $24.00
MP: $11.98
CO: $33.70

SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 5:spade: 7:spade:

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.25, fold, fold, CO calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.85, 2 players) 5:diamond: 8:spade: A:diamond:
CO checks, Hero bets $2.50, CO calls $2.50

Turn: ($9.85, 2 players) 6:heart:
CO checks, Hero bets $5.50, CO calls $5.50

River: ($20.85, 2 players) 4:club:
CO checks,

best line for Hero?

WVHillbilly · Mar 4, 2013

1/2 pot.

S93 · Mar 4, 2013

I probably jam. We have such few 7s in our range that it looks really fishy/bluffy to villain and expect to by looked up a lot.
Besides his value hands that are calling 1/2 pot-pot arnt gonna magically find a fold against a slight over shove.*

*Disclaimer* I suck so dont listen to me.

hackmeplz · Mar 4, 2013

I bet turn bigger so you can shove river without overbetting. Also against a lot of people I'd consider checking the turn and bluffing river if you miss people give way too much credit to b/ch/b in 3b pots and he's probably folding anything worse than TP.

hackmeplz · Mar 4, 2013

As for the sample size for vpip/pfr it's actually a math problem not an opinion question. Stdev = sqrt(np*(1-p)) so for the 8% vpip stdev = 2.7 so basically there's a 95% chance his vpip is 12 or lower so he's a massive nit most likely.

Matt Vaughan · Mar 4, 2013

Was kind of my point. ^ Sorry that I came across opinionated lol.

Ducky7 · Mar 4, 2013

acky100 said:
3b 5b QQ there is spewing money you spewtard ducky

100 hands is lol small sample size. Ive run a 8/6 over 100 hands before, so if you dont want to get QQ in vs me feel free

hackmeplz · Mar 4, 2013

Ducky7 said:
100 hands is lol small sample size. Ive run a 8/6 over 100 hands before, so if you dont want to get QQ in vs me feel free

meh I literally did the math 2 posts above. Obviously it's possible but it's extremely unlikely. Also I almost am never getting in QQ pre in those positions unless you're running insane. Like even against a 28/25 reg I'm flatting pre. It's not that I don't think I can profitably get it in pre it's that I think it's going to just be higher ev flatting than 3-betting in general.

OMGITSOVER9K · Mar 5, 2013

are we flatting AK vs regs in the blinds too as opposed to 3betting?

Ducky7 · Mar 5, 2013

hackmeplz said:
meh I literally did the math 2 posts above. Obviously it's possible but it's extremely unlikely. Also I almost am never getting in QQ pre in those positions unless you're running insane. Like even against a 28/25 reg I'm flatting pre. It's not that I don't think I can profitably get it in pre it's that I think it's going to just be higher ev flatting than 3-betting in general.

After i posted that ^^ i was thinking about it and pretty much thought the same thing, just gna see AK a whole bunch then AA/KK occasionally. So ye you probably right

hurts to flat QQ pre though

Matt Vaughan · Mar 5, 2013

Ducky7 said:
100 hands is lol small sample size. Ive run a 8/6 over 100 hands before, so if you dont want to get QQ in vs me feel free

*facepalm*

Saying it's happened ONLY once before should illustrate the point nicely lol

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