JOEBOB69 said:
I think our range whould be weighted more towards high cards rather then hands that can flop draws. TP hands are what we want to make as the SPR will be low post flop and well have no FE if they want to continue in the hand.
Amazing post there, No brainer. Infact its better than half the microstakes guides ive read so great job with this! The weak tight bit has really helped me as i probably give these guys too much credit as im always looking for the loose players on my table. I think we can also add that some loose weak players e.g. 30/5 arent passive and you will occasionally find them with a fold to cbet of around 60% so i think from this we can assume theyre just playing poker for the fun of it playing fit or fold post flop so we can just raise more PF to exploit them, i suppose this goes for the nitty set miners also.
One question i have is should we be isolating passive 30/5 types with say A3 suited? i havent had much success with this whereas any two broadways seems much better.
One question i have is should we be isolating passive 30/5 types with say A3 suited? i havent had much success with this whereas any two broadways seems much better.
is this ok?
Full Tilt - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
UTG: $2.07
UTG+1: $1.38
MP: $0.60
MP+1: $3.29
CO: $1.93
Hero (BTN): $2.00
SB: $2.04
BB: $2.00
SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has J<font color='red'>♦</font> 9<font color='black'>♣</font>
UTG calls $0.02, fold, fold, fold, CO calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.14, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.12, fold
Edit: Jd9c. Idk why it came up like that
Full Tilt - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3
UTG: $2.07
UTG+1: $1.38
MP: $0.60
MP+1: $3.29
CO: $1.93
Hero (BTN): $2.00
SB: $2.04
BB: $2.00
SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has J<font color='red'>♦</font> 9<font color='black'>♣</font>
UTG calls $0.02, fold, fold, fold, CO calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.14, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.12, fold
Edit: Jd9c. Idk why it came up like that
WSOP13 said:
I don't know if I would normally raise 7BB (depends on the opponents), but it looks like you got the job done and isolated the UTG limper, while forcing the CO to fold.
Anyways, this is a great thread! No Brainer's post is great, and the link to the 2p2 thread was really helpful too.
orangepeeleo said:
Opening up is Ok as long as you are comfortable taking those hands to showdown against these players when you hit top pair x kicker. As your kicker gets lower your value obviously gets thinner and thinner. Against fish we really want to be going for the fattest value possible. There is no need to go for thin value against them. A lot of micro players have trouble playing these type of hands when they get to the turn as they double barrel too much and create large pots with their marginal showdown hands.
acky100 said:
Any ace can be ok against weak loose players though we should be sure that they will be calling us down with 2nd or 3rd pair a lot of the time before we go value betting our top pair no kicker. By using any two broadway cards we know that we are ahead of their range a large percentage of the time. As said above, there is no need to be going for thin value (spots where we are barely ahead of villains range) against fish.
WSOP13 said:
What sort of villains are we isolating here? We should be tightening our range up when isolating multiple limpers as we are very likely to get multiple callers and be playing post flop in a multiway pot.