MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

[Yoshimiii]

If I was villain I would be pretty damn pissed off, props to him if he didn't swear in the chat box. Also I bet some of the players made a note on you for stacking off with a pair of 3's XD, they probably will stack off lighter to u in future.

 

[DunningKruger]

Flop is fine. Pre is terrible. On the turn I'd bet larger or I'm just checking. Prefer to check for a number of reasons. As played it seems to be a fold to the check/raise. Even taking out nutted hands like straights and sets I doubt you can come up with enough pot equity to justify this given that some of his bluffs/draws are still beating us.

 

[duggs]

If I was villain I would be pretty damn pissed off, props to him if he didn't swear in the chat box. Also I bet some of the players made a note on you for stacking off with a pair of 3's XD, they probably will stack off lighter to u in future.

I can only see that as a good thing imo.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Was gonna say that lol ^

 

[Yoshimiii]

I can only see that as a good thing imo.

Indeed, just saying so you take it into account next time you're up against them (if you hadn't taken it into account already, though you probably did ).

 

[Dom1]

Can anyone help me with my biggest leak,which is paying of sets with two pair or top pair,most of the time I make the read,pay them of to see if I'm correct and move on.
I just find it hard to fold,if I can solve this leak ill save a lot of money

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Being conscious of it is the first step. The next step is making yourself pause before you hit the "call" button.

 

[Yoshimiii]

Being conscious of it is the first step. The next step is making yourself pause before you hit the "call" button.

Ye, I see a few of the 'regs' (bad ones) snap calling far too often at 25nl without properly thinking through the hand, very easy to play against when they do this on the flop/turn as well as they are usually very weak.

 

[ScottishMatt]

1) Normally I fold flop but I'm turning into a station. No info other than villain is mass multitabling (9-12 I think)

Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2266504
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SB: $13.39
BB: $14.30
Hero (UTG): $5.00
MP: $12.50
CO: $3.90
BTN: $5.00

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG with Q

Q

Hero raises to $0.14, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.14, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.35) 8

9

2

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.25, BTN raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.85) 6

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.10, Hero calls $1.10

River: ($4.05) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.55, Hero folds

Put him on TT/JJ and sets. Like I say, normally a flop fold but I had no stats so I thought I would call down and evaluate. He checks back river 100% with TT/JJ so obviously a fold. We cool with flop+turn though?


2) Vs a 61/36/67 (VPIP/PFR/AFq), guy is super aggro and almost always bets pot or more when he fires. His raises are massive as well, only thing causing me to hesitate is that I felt he was raising earlier with stuff like TP etc, still don't know if I can fold a set vs an aggrotard such as this?

Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2266509
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BB: $17.11
UTG: $5.57
Hero (MP): $5.22
CO: $12.50
BTN: $10.14
SB: $5.34

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP with T

T

1 fold, Hero raises to $0.14, 3 folds, BB calls $0.09

Flop: ($0.30) 9

T

J

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.20, BB calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.70) 6

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.55, BB calls $0.55

River: ($1.80) 5

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.45, BB raises to $3.65, Hero raises to $4.33 all in, BB calls $0.68



3) guy is 53/11/72 (VPIP/PFR/AFq) so definitely not passive, bets plenty postflop and stuff. Will almost always bet vs missed Cbet when IP and stuff like that. I probably should have X/Shoved but whatever, we looking to GII here?

Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2266512
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Hero (UTG): $5.00
CO: $5.38
BTN: $5.05
SB: $5.00
BB: $4.19

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG with 9

8

Hero raises to $0.14, CO calls $0.14, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.35) T

5

J

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, CO raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.20

Turn: ($1.15) T

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

River: ($1.55) Q

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.70, Hero raises to $3.15, CO raises to $4.64 all in, Hero calls $1.11 all in

 

[Matt Vaughan]

1. Is he really flatting TT/JJ pre and then raising the flop? I'm not sure. If he's mass multi-tabling he is most likely on auto-pilot for the most part, so tbh I have to at least think about whether he can have some draws here that he 3x raises b/c there's no high cards on the board. If you call turn you have to call river imo, especially when there are fewer combos of sets+ now. He doesn't check TT/JJ 100% OTR if he's raising the flop with it imo. If you're going to fold somewhere I'm not sure the river is it, but tbh I can't quite articulate why. Curious what others think.

2. Hard to imagine him slow-playing a straight or set or two pair on a wet board so I prob gii tbh. WP imo.

3. If you're going to x/r, x/j, if you're going to x/r but not x/j, x/r smaller. Yes I'm gii, but I'm not fist-pumping. I expect a lot of JT here, but with his wide preflop range he should have some trips here too I'd imagine.

 

[Yoshimiii]

H1: Fine.

H2: Call or fold river don't shove.

H3: Problem is what hand min-raises the flop then bets the river when the Q comes? QJ maybe but that's about it.

His bet sizing is really retarded as well. I think a smaller raise/fold on the river would be best. I just don't see many hands that can call that you beat if he doesn't raise 10X OTF, also you can fold to shoves easier.

 

[Yoshimiii]

but with his wide preflop range he should have some trips here too I'd imagine.

Is he really min-raising 10/X on the flop? OP you are the only one to decide really if he is.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

A fair question. ^ I have seen that line taken by weak players before though. They have a pair and are unsure how to proceed. They think it's best but don't know how to know for sure and don't know what to do even when they know.

 

[Logan2]

H3 My guess is that villain have a set of 5´s, that´s why the min-raise on flop just to grow pot but making it min. to keep you there.
Turn small bet is to induce, to let you chase draws or to make you think he is full of Sht.
River bet is for value and just pops after raised. Other option is AK, raised flop because overs and draw, turn bet for lols and river for value. some other options there too, not fist pumping river tbh.

 

[micromachine]

Been playing very little in the last couple of weeks, with less volume I'm enjoying playing a lot more and so hopefully playing better

Anyway this is one of the few hands I have played. I double barrelled trying to rep strength and cos I had the nut FD....so anyone like betting the river for value, is so how much?

Villain: 24/20, 13%3b, 55%AFQ, 131 hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

SB ($2.97)
Hero (BB) ($5.53)
UTG ($5.17)
MP ($7.31)
CO ($3.28)
Button ($5.58)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A

, Q

3 folds, Button bets $0.15, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.45, Button calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.92) 2

, 9

, 7

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.60, Button calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.12) 8

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.30, Button calls $1.30

River: ($4.72) A

(2 players)
Hero.........

 

[ScottishMatt]

If you are going to bet then ship it. He is rarely going to hero call you here so when he does we want the max. We're more likely to get hero called when we shove as well.

 

[Yoshimiii]

A fair question. ^ I have seen that line taken by weak players before though. They have a pair and are unsure how to proceed. They think it's best but don't know how to know for sure and don't know what to do even when they know.

Ye me too but I think until he knows villain can min-raise 10/x here I wouldn't give him credit for doing it.

 

[Yoshimiii]

I would be tempted to bet small to get value from 10/10- Q/Q but you would be in a world of hurt if you get shoved on so that's not an option.

Shove or Check/Fold I think.

 

[RamdeeBen]

Seems like a perfect river shove for me.

If we was bluffing, we'd just jam this river and hope to fold out his TT/JJ/QQ. To maximize our equity; I think shoving is the only option because if we go for a smaller bet, it looks way to much like value and if he shoves over, it's gross. We want villain to think we're capable of shoving perfect river cards and have him call lighter. If however; you don't bluff these rivers and check back your air then something different might be better.

 

[Yoshimiii]

Seems like a perfect river shove for me.

If we was bluffing, we'd just jam this river and hope to fold out his TT/JJ/QQ. To maximize our equity; I think shoving is the only option because if we go for a smaller bet, it looks way to much like value and if he shoves over, it's gross. We want villain to think we're capable of shoving perfect river cards and have him call lighter. If however; you don't bluff these rivers and check back your air then something different might be better.

No or very little bluffs HERO can have here anyway.

 

[ScottishMatt]

TBH I think it's just a matter of us having the best hand here almost all the time. We are so rarely beat that we should just go for the maximum. Checking sucks because he is likely never going to bluff here. Our only way to capitalise is by betting and a good regular, which he looks like, simply isn't going to pay an obvious valuebet off. If he is willing to, then he is clearly a bad regular in which case a shove is the correct move anyway.

 

[RamdeeBen]

No or very little bluffs HERO can have here anyway.

So in villains eyes you think we only have JJ+ AJ+ in this spot ?

 

[Yoshimiii]

So in villains eyes you think we only have JJ+ AJ+ in this spot ?

Yes.

 

[RamdeeBen]

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this

 

[Yoshimiii]

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this

K lol, what bluffs could you have here then?