MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

[ScottishMatt]

He played it pretty ****ing bad TBF. Just keep it up man. Or switch sites . . .

 

[Cafeman]

Well you're getting value from smaller flushes I guess.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Frankly the fact that he played a flop set that badly leads me to believe I get paid by QT+ there as well, but that might be wishful thinking

And Matt, it would make no sense to switch sites really. I'm confident I'll move up eventually, just need to run decent when shot-taking (yet to happen at 25nl obv). And Bovada is so fishy + decent traffic compared to other US sites that it seems foolish to move anywhere.

Oh, and please, for the love of god, berate any and all spew (thanks so much to all that watch regularly).

 

[Blobweird123]

Villain is 67/36 over about 200 hands. Any way to get more value out of this hand that I'm overlooking?

Winning Poker Network - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (MP): $8.24
CO: $5.44 (VPIP: -, PFR: -, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 0)
BTN: $6.48 (VPIP: -, PFR: -, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 0)
SB: $5.00 (VPIP: -, PFR: -, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 0)
BB: $5.00 (VPIP: -, PFR: -, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 0)
UTG: $7.99 (VPIP: -, PFR: -, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 0)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has 6:heart: 6:club:

fold, Hero raises to $0.15, fold, BTN calls $0.15, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.37, 2 players) 8:diamond: J:club: 6:diamond:
Hero bets $0.24, BTN calls $0.24

Turn: ($0.85, 2 players) 6:spade:
Hero bets $0.54, BTN calls $0.54

River: ($1.93, 2 players) 7:spade:
Hero bets $1.45, fold

Hero wins $1.84

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Wet board, all three postflop streets can be bigger, but especially flop and turn. Remember that bet sizes compound in a sense, so setting yourself up for bigger river bets early is a good idea with a strong hand.

 

[Blobweird123]

Wet board, all three postflop streets can be bigger, but especially flop and turn. Remember that bet sizes compound in a sense, so setting yourself up for bigger river bets early is a good idea with a strong hand.

Yeah I just gotta get out of this weird mindset I have where like if I have the nuts, I always feel they have nothing, and when I have a mediocre hand I always feel like they got the nuts.

 

[pocketehs]

good fold OTR?


PokerStars - $0.16 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (MP): $31.15
CO: $5.77 (VPIP: 25.71, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 37)
BTN: $16.44 (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
SB: $16.00 (VPIP: 21.74, PFR: 14.52, 3Bet Preflop: 4.66, Hands: 645)
BB: $16.65 (VPIP: 23.20, PFR: 20.40, 3Bet Preflop: 3.06, Hands: 254)
UTG: $56.48 (VPIP: 23.33, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 4.65, Hands: 92)

SB posts SB $0.08, BB posts BB $0.16

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.24) Hero has J:diamond: J:heart:

fold, Hero raises to $0.48, CO calls $0.48, BTN calls $0.48, fold, fold

Flop: ($1.68, 3 players) 5:spade: 8:heart: 4:diamond:
Hero bets $1.12, fold, BTN calls $1.12

Turn: ($3.92, 2 players) 2:diamond:
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.16, Hero calls $2.16

River: ($8.24, 2 players) T:spade:
Hero checks, BTN bets $4.32,


Can I value this river? like 1/3 pot?

PokerStars - $0.16 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $26.93
SB: $20.35 (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 29.17, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
BB: $20.02 (VPIP: 21.98, PFR: 14.62, 3Bet Preflop: 4.44, Hands: 661)
UTG: $17.13 (VPIP: 22.93, PFR: 20.30, 3Bet Preflop: 3.60, Hands: 270)
CO: $46.23 (VPIP: 22.64, PFR: 14.15, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 108)

SB posts SB $0.08, BB posts BB $0.16

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.24) Hero has Q:heart: Q:spade:

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.40, fold, BB raises to $1.36, Hero calls $0.96

Flop: ($2.80, 2 players) 2:club: 5:heart: 3:club:
BB bets $2.16, Hero calls $2.16

Turn: ($7.12, 2 players) 9:club:
BB bets $4.40, Hero calls $4.40

River: ($15.92, 2 players) 9:heart:
BB checks, Hero checks

 

[Cafeman]

thanks so much to all that watch regularly

You're welcome. I need something to watch while I eat my brekky etc.

 

[Logan2]

Back to 50BI rule on BRM, 14BI underev when using a 20BI BRM is not fun.
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[Cafeman]

Back to 50BI rule on BRM, 14BI underev when using a 20BI BRM is not fun.
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Sounds about right. No matter how good you are, you are just going to have runs from hell and there's nothing you can do about it - apart from have a big enough roll to cope.

 

[Logan2]

Yeah, this time trying to see the positive side, which is that running bad is not that bad because make me review and study a lot more (instead of just whine and blame variance),
so i just move down and trying to improve and keep the ball rolling.

Poker is a ****ing weird game, when you play like a troll go on a heater and when think you are playing your best variance spew in your face. (and then tilt make you spew a little more too).

But i will spew on variance face too and that´s a promise.



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[Blobweird123]

Can we get away from this?

Winning Poker Network - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $1.13 (VPIP: -, PFR: -, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 0)
BB: $4.82 (VPIP: -, PFR: -, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 0)
UTG: $2.07 (VPIP: -, PFR: -, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 0)
CO: $2.31 (VPIP: -, PFR: -, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 0)
Hero (BTN): $4.54

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 5:spade: 5:heart:

UTG raises to $0.06, fold, Hero calls $0.06, fold, BB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.19, 3 players) 9:club: 6:spade: 5:diamond:
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.12, BB raises to $0.44, fold, Hero raises to $2.04, BB raises to $4.76 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.44 and is all-in

Turn: ($9.15, 2 players) K:spade:

River: ($9.15, 2 players) Q:club:

BB shows 8:diamond: 7:spade: (Straight, Nine High) (Pre 48%, Flop 65%, Turn 77%)
Hero shows 5:spade: 5:heart: (Three of a Kind, Fives) (Pre 52%, Flop 35%, Turn 23%)
BB wins $8.70

 

[redwards92]

Can we get away from this?

Winning Poker Network - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $1.13 (VPIP: -, PFR: -, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 0)
BB: $4.82 (VPIP: -, PFR: -, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 0)
UTG: $2.07 (VPIP: -, PFR: -, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 0)
CO: $2.31 (VPIP: -, PFR: -, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 0)
Hero (BTN): $4.54

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has 5♠ 5♥

UTG raises to $0.06, fold, Hero calls $0.06, fold, BB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.19, 3 players) 9♣ 6♠ 5♦
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.12, BB raises to $0.44, fold, Hero raises to $2.04, BB raises to $4.76 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.44 and is all-in

Turn: ($9.15, 2 players) K♠

River: ($9.15, 2 players) Q♣

BB shows 8♦ 7♠ (Straight, Nine High) (Pre 48%, Flop 65%, Turn 77%)
Hero shows 5♠ 5♥ (Three of a Kind, Fives) (Pre 52%, Flop 35%, Turn 23%)
BB wins $8.70

As played not really

not liking the size of 3bet on flop to be honest.

depends on how passive villian is and what kind of history you have with him but imo at the micros never really getting away from getting it in with a flopped set on the flop because most of the time you are crushing stuff like overpairs top pair/ two pairs etc which fish at micros are happy to raise and 4bet all in with.

hell I even often find fish raising me and getting it in with things like AKxx / AQs when they miss the flop entirely.

 

[Logan2]

Yeah, not folding there vs unknown.


What about this one.

BTN is 26/16 on 26 hands
BB is 14/6, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3 (Flop 3.4/Turn 1.5), FCB: 73, Hands: 407

Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
BTN: $5.00
Hero (SB): $5.09
BB: $4.70 -

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with T

7

6 folds, BTN raises to $0.15, Hero calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.45) T

T

9

(3 players)
Hero bets $0.30, BB raises to $0.60, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.65) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $1.00, Hero ??

I think should 3b flop and if get raised fold, not sure best line on turn. Guy is a nit that 3b overpairs pre, and he is raising flop with still other player there, so not sure if TX/99/SD,
turn give us a SD but at this point not sure if is crushed already. Considering his FCB is 73 in a decent example guy is mostly hit or fold so looks really strong here when he keep going on turn.
Hand put me out of balance because was expecting nit fold to my donk and BTN call.

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[AlfieAA]

Yeah, not folding there vs unknown.


What about this one.

BTN is 26/16 on 26 hands
BB is 14/6, 3B: 4, AF: 2.3 (Flop 3.4/Turn 1.5), FCB: 73, Hands: 407

Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
BTN: $5.00
Hero (SB): $5.09
BB: $4.70 -

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is SB with T

7

6 folds, BTN raises to $0.15, Hero calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.45) T

T

9

(3 players)
Hero bets $0.30, BB raises to $0.60, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.65) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $1.00, Hero ??

I think should 3b flop and if get raised fold, not sure best line on turn. Guy is a nit that 3b overpairs pre, and he is raising flop with still other player there, so not sure if TX/99/SD,
turn give us a SD but at this point not sure if is crushed already. Considering his FCB is 73 in a decent example guy is mostly hit or fold so looks really strong here when he keep going on turn.
Hand put me out of balance because was expecting nit fold to my donk and BTN call.

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i would 3bet the flop and look to gii if he 4bet or shove the turn....he's prob got jacks or a low/mid pair...i dont think he would re raise you otf if he had 9's and if he has JT then its just a cooler, im getting it in all day long.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

@Blob - I also don't really like the 3bet size, but once we do 3bet to half a stack we definitely have to get it in. Frankly 3betting small and then folding to a 4bet MIGHT be ok, but I'd have to do some math. If we assume that villain only 4bets/gii with two pairs, sets, and made straights, then we're in pretty bad shape. 15 combos of two pair, 6 combos of sets, 16 combos of straights. And that's assuming he can even have offsuit double and triple gappers here, which might be a stretch. If we think an unknown is likely capable of getting it in with a decent TP or TP + draw like A9 or 98 then gii is definitely fine. This is where you have to be assessing the "play of the population" though and have some idea of who you think unknowns are likely to be, and what they might do.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

@Logan - I realize we're 3-handed but I'd much rather 3bet or fold preflop with this hand-type. We're giving the BB a sick price to come in behind us and we have a suited double gapper in the worst position on the table. As played, he's nitty and I think there's a couple things that could happen. He could:

1. Only gii with trips+
2. He could not be able to let go of overpairs.

If we know he has trouble letting go of overpairs then we should 3bet, but if we know he will only gii with trips or boats then we should flat and keep overpairs in imo.

As played on the flop, you can't really fold now, I'd just go for a x/c line since we didn't 3bet the flop and can't really narrow him to trips + boats only.

 

[ScottishMatt]

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): $5.00
BTN: $12.21 (VPIP: 20.59, PFR: 14.71, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 35)
SB: $2.86 (VPIP: 44.12, PFR: 2.94, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 35)
BB: $11.28 (VPIP: 19.48, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 79)
UTG: $12.15 (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has K:heart: A:club:

fold, Hero raises to $0.16, BTN calls $0.16, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.39, 2 players) A:diamond: A:heart: J:club:
Hero bets $0.25, BTN calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.89, 2 players) T:spade:
Hero bets $0.55, BTN raises to $1.80, fold

BTN wins $1.91

Thoughts?

 

[Matt Vaughan]

I mean. I'm bad and prob gii but I guess it's tough for him to raise with worse than AJ, AT, or JJ. AQ might just call down so I guess I like the fold, though I'm sure I never find it in game. Plus I'm not sure if he's flatting jacks pre or not.

 

[ScottishMatt]

It's sick. If he raises AQ here I'm getting the odds to call. Problem is I know I'm playing for stacks OTR so I might as well save money now.

 

[Logan2]

i would 3bet the flop and look to gii if he 4bet or shove the turn....he's prob got jacks or a low/mid pair...i dont think he would re raise you otf if he had 9's and if he has JT then its just a cooler, im getting it in all day long.

Yeah, i think should 3b flop, not sure to gii if come over, TJ or anything above my 7 is a bigger chance.

@Logan - I realize we're 3-handed but I'd much rather 3bet or fold preflop with this hand-type. We're giving the BB a sick price to come in behind us and we have a suited double gapper in the worst position on the table. As played, he's nitty and I think there's a couple things that could happen. He could:

1. Only gii with trips+
2. He could not be able to let go of overpairs.

If we know he has trouble letting go of overpairs then we should 3bet, but if we know he will only gii with trips or boats then we should flat and keep overpairs in imo.

As played on the flop, you can't really fold now, I'd just go for a x/c line since we didn't 3bet the flop and can't really narrow him to trips + boats only.

His 3b from bb is 5%, so asuming he will isolate pre with overpairs. We got worst position but bb is a 70+ FCB player which means he don´t call unless he hit.

Reason why i not 3b pre is because BTN is 26/16 but not enough hands to know his F3b, so with that gap i asume he call a lot, and i want to be in the hand with him with my hand.
bb 3b is decent, so was expecting he 3b with overs there or just fold flop because his really high FCB, my hand is usually easy to play because or i hit my SD/FD or can let go, but for trips/pairs always tricky because low kicker and zoom is just a setmine field. So i guess need to 3b flop there, after calling flop probably need to go x/call turn but if call there i need to call also river, villain AF on flop is 3+ so expecting a min-raise there, but his turn AF is just 1, so after he fire again i need to decide if want to go all the way vs him and prefeer to fold there : - /

 

[AlfieAA]

PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): $5.00
BTN: $12.21 (VPIP: 20.59, PFR: 14.71, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 35)
SB: $2.86 (VPIP: 44.12, PFR: 2.94, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 35)
BB: $11.28 (VPIP: 19.48, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 79)
UTG: $12.15 (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has K<font color='red'>♥</font> A<font color='black'>♣</font>

fold, Hero raises to $0.16, BTN calls $0.16, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.39, 2 players) A<font color='red'>♦</font> A<font color='red'>♥</font> J<font color='black'>♣</font>
Hero bets $0.25, BTN calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.89, 2 players) T<font color='black'>♠</font>
Hero bets $0.55, BTN raises to $1.80, fold

BTN wins $1.91

Thoughts?

this is one sicko hand matt, his 3bet stat is huge..
so im guessing he would be doing it with AJ,JJ,AT...
he's prob got you on a pp thats not an ace or jack
and thinks you are just doing the standard raise/cbet
double barrell and raises for info with his 9T lol
if its me then im going all in on the turn...its only 5
dolla and its not gonna hurt you to punish the bullshitter imo.
you're maybe levelling yourself abit too much mate

 

[ScottishMatt]

Sample size though. Can't give him a 3Bet range other than the standard AK/QQ+. Because he is a reg as well I doubt he has much A9. He either has a bluff, which I doubt, or a value hand. Seeing as it's 5NL and all the regs are going to be on the passive side as opposed to aggressive I found it an easy fold.

I was actually stoving mid hand to try and convince myself to make the call, my first instinct though just told me to let go. I was practically prepared to snap fold, lol.

 

[ScottishMatt]

FML. Fish on a heater = 9BI below EV over 1.7K hands.

Someone teach me to not run bad.

And the one ****ing time I folded I would have turned quads . . .

 

[AlfieAA]

FML. Fish on a heater = 9BI below EV over 1.7K hands.

Someone teach me to not run bad.

And the one ****ing time I folded I would have turned quads . . .

you folded 3 of a kind...whaaaaa....let me guess, he had a straight
leave the fish alone matt, dont go after him in a fit of pure rage trying to get your monies back.