MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

[Cafeman]

Could consider 3betting KQ, not too keen on flatting it either.

 

[redwards92]

yea normally I will either 3b/foldto4b KQ or fold it (with raises ahead villian dependant).

This way he either 4bets you with better hands and you can fold pre or it prevents him from cbetting and barreling things like TT/JJ/QQ/

As played raise flop/fold to 3b and check back/fold turn and if you make it to river with a check back probably call river depending on sizing or check back.

TT hand seems just fine... Guess you could consider raising more(~1$ish) on flop, then betting a little more turn if you wanted more value but IMO its played perectly.

matt

Not sure I like it tbh without a good read.

If villian is fishy enough he will call off TT+. Not sure what raises flop barrels turn and folds here?

If he found a fold then I dunno well played lol.

also just a disclaimer I don't post in here often because I am bad and probably offer bad advice so forgive me for being bad if this post is bad.

lol

 

[ScottishMatt]

Just like WTF does a reg flat my UTG raise with that can raise that board. FH/Quads is like all he connected with and I can't see him raising that. Raising an overpair here achieves nothing and a reg knows that surely. It's the perfect spot for him to bluff because I connect with this just as little as he does.

Anyone else's got thoughts on it?

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

3b bluff > flat x/r turn

 

[pocketehs]

this is why you dont play FR kids

yeah Im a huge fish at FR and still adjusting to it tbh. I just knew I'm never good with KQ there.

Kinda liked Matts point about my Qd blocking a lot of his FDs too. Thx

Just like WTF does a reg flat my UTG raise with that can raise that board. FH/Quads is like all he connected with and I can't see him raising that. Raising an overpair here achieves nothing and a reg knows that surely. It's the perfect spot for him to bluff because I connect with this just as little as he does.

Anyone else's got thoughts on it?

I think its probably fine Matt. I remember like every reg and fish at 5NL would fight so hard for pots on paired board.


What to do OTT? I know stats below are nitty but after 200 hands he was like 20/17

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): $34.85
BB: $31.61 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 27)
UTG: $25.00 (VPIP: 15.87, PFR: 12.70, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 65)
MP: $24.30 (VPIP: 16.95, PFR: 13.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 62)
CO: $22.53 (VPIP: 73.53, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 36)
BTN: $18.68 (VPIP: 35.96, PFR: 27.40, 3Bet Preflop: 12.00, Hands: 301)

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A:spade: A:diamond:

UTG raises to $0.75, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.50, fold, UTG calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.25, 2 players) 4:club: 7:spade: 2:club:
Hero bets $3.00, UTG calls $3.00

Turn: ($11.25, 2 players) 3:club:
Hero bets $5.25, UTG raises to $10.50,

 

[ScottishMatt]

I thought about 3Bet bluffing but I ended up calling because I think there is the possibility he gives up and we can bluff river with valuebet sizing. After he fired though I still went with my gut. Doesn't a bluff OTT earn us more than. Bluff OTF as well? I would have thought that having him commit another street when he is air heavy would be better for us.

You might be right though 9K - most of his bluffing range includes PP's that missed and against them 3Bet bluffing probably looks stronger. At the same time I don't think he is good enough to level that high and call my turn shove. Course if I had AA I was X/C the whole way but he probably can't hand read that well either.

Oh and Jake minraise is so nutted but surely he can a semi bluff in this spot so I probs ship it.

 

[micromoi]

it is a reraise all in for me he could have any 88+ hands with a club, and u r crushed to only a set or AQc i take away AKs he would 4bet with it.

 

[ScottishMatt]

I don't know how to win at poker. ****ing impossible to win when you run like I do. FFS regs thinking their 4 outer is good for 100BB.

Rakeback grinding here I come.

 

[micromachine]

I'm back yo.

Sucks to be running bad Matt, but it will end, being break-even in the meantime ain't too bad

Whats everyone think about the usefulness of having hands in your DB from 3+ years ago? I'm only just getting round to setting up PT4, I tried before but when I was loading all my hands something f**ked up along the way every time and I gave up. Now I'm thinking of just loading the hands from 2012 and 2013, which is still a lot...maybe info on villains from over 1.5 years ago is outdated and not worth much anyway idk.

 

[Cafeman]

I have my HUD set up to filter out stats older than 4 months anyway (or something like that). Players tend to change over time. Just ditch the old stuff imo.

 

[micromachine]

OK cool, might even just load the 2013 hands then. Tbh I don't look at many stats that take a long time to converge anyway.

Wasn't a million miles from you last week Neil, was on hols near Bordeaux, about 50km South of Angouleme

 

[Cafeman]

You should have popped over for a beer and a dip in the pool, we were only about 3 hours away.

 

[micromachine]

Only 3 hours lol, but yeah, if I'm down near you again I'll give you a shout.

 

[ScottishMatt]

Are you guys capable of folding top two against a fish to X/R'ed turn?

 

[Cafeman]

Are you guys capable of folding top two against a fish to X/R'ed turn?

Pop in the HH Matt, but off the top of my head, probs not if the fish is aggro or can start jamming it in with worse 2p right.

 

[ScottishMatt]

100BB deep. Fish calls my CO raise from SB. Flop comes AK3r, turn a Q that creates FDs. I get X/Min-raised and ship it. He obvs has JT but surely this is a stack 100% of the time right? Like we have to stack AK/AQ here don't we?


Dunno wtf to do with poker atm. My BR just can't incur these losses. Either I'm a horrible station or I've been getting coolered all month.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

I mean, it depends on what type of fish, as Neil was suggesting, but if he's mostly passive and he x/r the turn then top 2 seems like a really close one - we block a lot of worse 2 pairs obv, but it's tough to have sets. I think in that spot you should fold b/c he should be capable of flatting a gutshot on the flop. Just allows him too many combos of the nuts.

 

[Logan2]

I'm back yo.

Sucks to be running bad Matt, but it will end, being break-even in the meantime ain't too bad

Whats everyone think about the usefulness of having hands in your DB from 3+ years ago? I'm only just getting round to setting up PT4, I tried before but when I was loading all my hands something f**ked up along the way every time and I gave up. Now I'm thinking of just loading the hands from 2012 and 2013, which is still a lot...maybe info on villains from over 1.5 years ago is outdated and not worth much anyway idk.

I´m planning to purge my DB as soon year end, it only erase hands but keep players stats, so no need to keep it after reviewed but help to keep Tracker working faster. Players probably change his game from one year to another so no point to have DB so old.

100BB deep. Fish calls my CO raise from SB. Flop comes AK3r, turn a Q that creates FDs. I get X/Min-raised and ship it. He obvs has JT but surely this is a stack 100% of the time right? Like we have to stack AK/AQ here don't we?


Dunno wtf to do with poker atm. My BR just can't incur these losses. Either I'm a horrible station or I've been getting coolered all month.

Move down, i move down 2 levels already and still 20bi underev, and 25k hands BE now, ev line show me winning 24bi on the month which is pretty much what keep me going, but need to cut all loses to the max so i move down and keep the faith that should stop at some point.(yeah, talking about faith now because got nothing left.)

 

[BenSprocket]

Just joined this forum and found this thread. Took a long break from poker but now am back playing regularly. Gor a roll of $430 in Stars with another $200 or so going in on Friday. Will probably begin next week properly on 16NL tables but for now am using my odd $30 on a $50 NL table. Currently about $7 up with hopefully a long night ahead.

 

[ScottishMatt]

Still running and playing like shit. I feel I've been calling down too much this month, or going for extremely thin value. Like earlier a reg flatted my 3Bet IP and called a dodgy board twice. I put him on two possible hands after the flop which was AK/JJ. After he called turn I was thinking he is weighted towards AK because JJ surely finds a fold OTT. Like FFS I don't bluff this board and if I did my bluffs would beat JJ anyway. Anyway the dipshit donkass mofo called and I shipped river weighting him at AK and too dumb to fold yet he shows up with JJ. Also don't know if I should be folding full houses to aggrofish for 300BBs?

Anyway now that I've dropped down to where I cannot possibly lose I have a couple spots. Perhaps I need to get back in touch with my inner nit, he would have found folds in some of the earlier hands.

1)

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $3.47
SB: $6.34 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BB: $1.02
UTG: $4.62 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
MP: $1.92 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
CO: $2.14

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has Q:spade: Q:diamond:

UTG raises to $0.04, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.16, fold, fold, UTG raises to $0.28, Hero calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.59, 2 players) 4:spade: 8:diamond: J:heart:
UTG bets $0.06, Hero raises to $0.24, UTG calls $0.18

Turn: ($1.07, 2 players) 8:club:
UTG bets $1.38


2) Actually considered donking here TBH now that A5 is counterfeited but figured if fish has a bluff I want to let him.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $2.14 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
SB: $2.13 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
Hero (BB): $2.69
UTG: $1.95 (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
MP: $2.38 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
CO: $3.14

SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has K:diamond: A:club:

fold, MP calls $0.02, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.09, MP calls $0.07

Flop: ($0.19, 2 players) A:heart: 5:club: 7:diamond:
Hero bets $0.10, MP raises to $0.20, Hero calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.59, 2 players) T:spade:
Hero checks, MP bets $0.28, Hero calls $0.28

River: ($1.15, 2 players) 7:club:
Hero checks, MP bets $0.44, Hero calls $0.44

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Just joined this forum and found this thread. Took a long break from poker but now am back playing regularly. Gor a roll of $430 in Stars with another $200 or so going in on Friday. Will probably begin next week properly on 16NL tables but for now am using my odd $30 on a $50 NL table. Currently about $7 up with hopefully a long night ahead.

Don't play 50nl.

 

[duggs]

scottishmatt that AK hand is a fold.

 

[duggs]

also if you guys dont already listen to the thinking poker podcast, do it. its awesome and i convinced scourrge and now he loves me for it

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Just a bit of correction to what duggs said: I already loved duggsy and all, but ffs the podcast is awesome and my love will never die. Anyway, if you do listen, make sure you can fully pay attention while it's playing, since pretty much the entire episodes are solid - very little "fluff" content.

I'm through 3 full episodes so far. Wanting to listen to them all at once but trying to force myself to space them out a bit so I can soak stuff in.

 

[Cafeman]

+1 on the podcast obv.

This week's is geek^2. Gotta love it.