MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

[Matt Vaughan]

The PT4 converter is pretty good... Either plain text or copy the forum version to the clipboard then just paste it in.

 

[long_bong]

Where is the NL50 NL100 NL200 NL400 cash thread?

 

[RodneyC86]

Where is the NL50 NL100 NL200 NL400 cash thread?

Go home long bong you're drunk!

Posting here to vent my frustration about breaking even over 150k hands at 10nl....

Well not really BE, But piss-ant poor 1.9 bb/100

Maybe I'm too much of a puss to keep playing poker with all that variance. Apparently it's not extremely unlikely to lose over 200k hands even with a winrate of 4bb/100.

End of BBV post

 

[micromachine]

Go home long bong you're drunk!

Posting here to vent my frustration about breaking even over 150k hands at 10nl....

Well not really BE, But piss-ant poor 1.9 bb/100

Maybe I'm too much of a puss to keep playing poker with all that variance. Apparently it's not extremely unlikely to lose over 200k hands even with a winrate of 4bb/100.

End of BBV post

That's better than I did at 10nl, a win rate is a win-rate Do you feel like you have run bad in general?

 

[pocketehs]

Go home long bong you're drunk!

Posting here to vent my frustration about breaking even over 150k hands at 10nl....

Well not really BE, But piss-ant poor 1.9 bb/100

Maybe I'm too much of a puss to keep playing poker with all that variance. Apparently it's not extremely unlikely to lose over 200k hands even with a winrate of 4bb/100.

End of BBV post

post stats and add st dev.

you playing zoom or reg tables?

 

[RodneyC86]

post stats and add st dev.

you playing zoom or reg tables?

Regs all the way, I'm posting only my latest 60k hands though, pretty certain my game changed some since.

Technologically impaired rhino lol

Can someone give me a hand?

Net Won USD Total Hands bb/100 VPIP PFR PFR/VPIP Ratio 3Bet vs 3Bet Call% 4Bet Range Sqz% WTSD% W$SD% W$WSF Agg Agg% Flop Agg% Turn Agg% River Agg% Flop CBet% Flop CBet% Success Turn CBet% Flop Fold vs Cbet Flop vs Raise Fold% Steal Pct Early UO PFR Middle UO PFR Cutoff UO PFR Button UO PFR SB UO PFR Preflop Positional Awareness River Call Efficiency SB Reraise Steal BB Reraise Steal SB Fold to Steal BB Fold to Steal
$166.17 61164 2.72 21.37 17.34 81.18 4.49 17.44 2.46 4.16 22.69 54.63 41.32 3.79 34.02 36.99 30.45 30.86 60.31 44.16 43.61 59.76 58.63 34.46 13.47 18.00 28.55 44.42 31.20 3.30 1.13 5.30 6.46 85.42 77.69

 

[RodneyC86]

That's better than I did at 10nl, a win rate is a win-rate Do you feel like you have run bad in general?

I have a poor memory so lol I'm not sure, I'm clearly running above the all-in EV line though so I may actually be running good!

That's my main worry i suppose

 

[RodneyC86]

Oh std dev of about 71bb/100

I understand that is suggestive of nittiness by 6max standards.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Not sure where you got the impression that winning over a 150k hand sample is bad, but seriously, anything positive over a sample is good. People don't appreciate how hard it is to win at poker now, cause most of the people saying "poker is easy" and "lol micros" are both skilled and experienced.

Not saying poker is unbeatable, but def don't beat yourself up about what number your win-rate happens to be. 150k hands isn't enough to know a ton about your true win-rate anyway. Just keep playing and improving.

 

[RodneyC86]

Not sure where you got the impression that winning over a 150k hand sample is bad, but seriously, anything positive over a sample is good. People don't appreciate how hard it is to win at poker now, cause most of the people saying "poker is easy" and "lol micros" are both skilled and experienced.

Not saying poker is unbeatable, but def don't beat yourself up about what number your win-rate happens to be. 150k hands isn't enough to know a ton about your true win-rate anyway. Just keep playing and improving.

heard that a thousand times but I still wanna bitch and moan on CC

Anyway, felt better already TQ

 

[Eatscake]

How many hands to get a general idea? Ive played 20k hands of 10NL now and want to know how much my winrate could be different from my true winrate? Like how many bb/100 do you think it could be wrong by?

 

[Matt Vaughan]

http://pokerdope.com/poker-variance-calculator/

20,000 hands, 5bb/100 observed WR,
70% confidence interval: -0.66bb/100 to 10.66bb/100
95% confidence interval: -6.31bb/100 to 16.31bb/100

Basically, 20k hands isn't much. Again, don't think you should worry much about win rate... By the time you play enough hands for your sample to be meaningful, you are probably improving, and the games may be changing as well. Your true win rate is probably actually fluctuating enough that you won't ever know it.

 

[pocketehs]

Regs all the way, I'm posting only my latest 60k hands though, pretty certain my game changed some since.

Technologically impaired rhino lol

Can someone give me a hand?

Net Won USD Total Hands bb/100 VPIP PFR PFR/VPIP Ratio 3Bet vs 3Bet Call% 4Bet Range Sqz% WTSD% W$SD% W$WSF Agg Agg% Flop Agg% Turn Agg% River Agg% Flop CBet% Flop CBet% Success Turn CBet% Flop Fold vs Cbet Flop vs Raise Fold% Steal Pct Early UO PFR Middle UO PFR Cutoff UO PFR Button UO PFR SB UO PFR Preflop Positional Awareness River Call Efficiency SB Reraise Steal BB Reraise Steal SB Fold to Steal BB Fold to Steal
$166.17 61164 2.72 21.37 17.34 81.18 4.49 17.44 2.46 4.16 22.69 54.63 41.32 3.79 34.02 36.99 30.45 30.86 60.31 44.16 43.61 59.76 58.63 34.46 13.47 18.00 28.55 44.42 31.20 3.30 1.13 5.30 6.46 85.42 77.69

take a screenshot. ^ is useless lol

 

[pocketehs]

How many hands to get a general idea? Ive played 20k hands of 10NL now and want to know how much my winrate could be different from my true winrate? Like how many bb/100 do you think it could be wrong by?

no idea how you could tell but ive heard ppl say around +250k is good

 

[Matt Vaughan]

You tell by doing some statistics. Basically, based on your standard deviation per hand, you can determine how likely it is that some win-rate falls within a certain range about your observed win-rate.

But yeah, just use the link I posted lol.

 

[long_bong]

Go home long bong you're drunk!

Posting here to vent my frustration about breaking even over 150k hands at 10nl....

Well not really BE, But piss-ant poor 1.9 bb/100

Maybe I'm too much of a puss to keep playing poker with all that variance. Apparently it's not extremely unlikely to lose over 200k hands even with a winrate of 4bb/100.

End of BBV post

Setting some high standards there

But seriously where is the midstakes or low stakes thread! lmao:dontknow:

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Haven't you asked this elsewhere? Might not have been you but I remember answering this within the past couple months. Thought it was you. Anyway, there used to be a low stakes thread, but it lost activity over time and it's not active at all anymore.

 

[xdeucesx]

Not sure where you got the impression that winning over a 150k hand sample is bad, but seriously, anything positive over a sample is good. People don't appreciate how hard it is to win at poker now, cause most of the people saying "poker is easy" and "lol micros" are both skilled and experienced.

Not saying poker is unbeatable, but def don't beat yourself up about what number your win-rate happens to be. 150k hands isn't enough to know a ton about your true win-rate anyway. Just keep playing and improving.

QFT
If anyone ever worries about their winrate, re-read this post plz

 

[redwards92]

Haven't you asked this elsewhere? Might not have been you but I remember answering this within the past couple months. Thought it was you. Anyway, there used to be a low stakes thread, but it lost activity over time and it's not active at all anymore.

yes he has multiple times

Why don't you just make a thread long bong ? I'm sure people will happily participate.

 

[xdeucesx]

i'll bump the thread longbong, look for it in cash games forum

 

[RodneyC86]

I did it! I'm a genius!

EDIT: Err oops. Cutoff UO PFR = 28.6

 

[pocketehs]

I did it! I'm a genius!

EDIT: Err oops. Cutoff UO PFR = 28.6

need it position. ill tell u some others to add as well but i just got in

 

[RodneyC86]

b4 anyone wants to comment on my small 3b percentage...

I don't know what's up but it feels like I can't 3 bet most 10NLers very light at all. They call way too much! I tried widening my value 3betting to include AQ and JJ but it tends to put me in trickier spots.

I still do 3bet light, but I cherry pick my targets.

As for flop cbet being lowish by many people's standards.... I think it's because I've been more actively isolating fish of late so of course I got to bluff cbet less. I used to cbet close to 70% before this recent 2 months

 

[RodneyC86]

need it position. ill tell u some others to add as well but i just got in

I just add whatever then lol

EDIT: OH shit I fold to 3bets on the button THAT much???? Now if someone tell me how to play 3bet pots in position it would be great

 

[RodneyC86]

Random 3bet statistics, look at my success rate! Surely 3betting lighter cannot be the answer right?

Turns out My f3bet is ~ 70 percent? Too balanced?:dontknow:

Positions are same from top to bottom as previous charts