MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

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  • #451
AlfieAA said:
do you think 22vpip is bad?...really, i usually leave a table if it goes below 20...how would you play at a table that was like 40vpip avpot 0.80c @2nl?....x5 raises?
It depends if you already have fish tag there, i mean table could be 18 but if you have a fish that is a atm then why get out. But on 2nl the pool is so big that you can get better tables with out much problem.

My filters for 2nl was 25vpip, so no table under that show, and never have a problem to fnd 6-8 tables, after some rounds if fish go away i was moving out. For you that are not multitabling table selection should be so easy, so don´t be lazzy and look for the juiciest tables. Table selection gona be so important when move up that should start now.
 
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Ok cool, I suppose the hero could have 4betted to reclaim the initiative...you learn new things everyday, even though they are obvious
 
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I can't play poker, i dunno whats wrong with my game but im getting absolutely nowhere :(
 
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I can't play poker, i dunno whats wrong with my game but im getting absolutely nowhere :(
Was surprise to see your 5nl hand, i think you was swiming on 10-16nl now.

Also what are you doing on a 5 players table, i have the idea you comment that suck big on 6max?.

Hang in there, your mind is stronger than that Master Jedi.
 
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I can't play poker, i dunno whats wrong with my game but im getting absolutely nowhere :(
have you ever watched any vids,i.e DC etc.
 
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I would have played this the same way....since he is an aggrodonk he could have ATC here....so its hard to put him on a deuce...I'm just stationing it all the way here...nh
 
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I can't play poker, i dunno whats wrong with my game but im getting absolutely nowhere :(


I hope you're joking mate, I thought you were one of the best crusher players on here....take a break for a few days and relax...I felt the same all last week and now I'm back with avengeance....chin up
 
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Btw yesterday see a 8/6 nit named peeli on one of my 5nl tables, surprise me to see those stats but still say hi, then remember that is not your full SN there lol
 
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/Logan/ said:
It depends if you already have fish tag there, i mean table could be 18 but if you have a fish that is a atm then why get out. But on 2nl the pool is so big that you can get better tables with out much problem.

My filters for 2nl was 25vpip, so no table under that show, and never have a problem to fnd 6-8 tables, after some rounds if fish go away i was moving out. For you that are not multitabling table selection should be so easy, so don´t be lazzy and look for the juiciest tables. Table selection gona be so important when move up that should start now.


I know man, if the tables vpip is 2, but there is a massive fish there then I'm wishing him a happy christmas and telling him to top up haha...

Yeah I think 25vpip is a nice number for 2nl...any higher a bonus,.....mate I've been table selecting from the very start, although sometimes I was guilty of staying on a table too long...but that was before I was clued up on the hud stats.....I think the doc is guilty of staying at tight tables for too long too tbh
 
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  • #460
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I still wouldn't call it a pure donkbet though, maybe there should be a new term for said actions

No, the principle still stays the same; A donkbet. This is because the villain showed real strength by 3 betting the hero and when the hero just flat calls he is showing weakness and therefore villain is saying he has a better hand. That's why hero usually would check and when he does bet it's called a donk bet, betting into the pre-flop raiser.
 
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  • #461
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I would have played this the same way....since he is an aggrodonk he could have ATC here....so its hard to put him on a deuce...I'm just stationing it all the way here...nh

36% AGG is actually very low, it works by calculating how many streets they bet e.g. if they bet flop, check turn and river then they are 33.3% and they are passive. That's why I really didn't want to raise a passive fish as I thought he could have two pair.

Anyway he turned over 2/5o lol, I was so puzzled by the way he played it ha.
 
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I think I would raise the turn tbh. I hate raising with TPGK hands like this as well but his bet sizing on the turn is so small that I think it almost looks like a blocker bet so that we dont make a big bet if he checks.

But as played, Im just flat calling the river as well.

Youve had some pretty interesting spots lately eh lol

Edit: howd you calc your BE in the long run? Isnt it just 1.7/5.8? I get 29%.

I fail with these acronyms lol, what does BE mean?
 
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36% AGG is actually very low, it works by calculating how many streets they bet e.g. if they bet flop, check turn and river then they are 33.3% and they are passive. That's why I really didn't want to raise a passive fish as I thought he could have two pair.

Anyway he turned over 2/5o lol, I was so puzzled by the way he played it ha.

yeah i was on my phone so never absorbed the stats properly.....here i go again commenting without knowing the stats....was it like 90/40.....yeah anyway...suppose that might look like a maniac on first glance (note, im only learning all this stat s h i t, so be gentle with me mr yoshy :) )....so by the looks of it he is limping half his hands pre flop and raising his monsters/good hands.....so that might give you an indication to what his hand is like here....again its too late to look at the facts because i am typing, but did he limp/call or raise pre flop on this hand?....maybe that would be a tell....a limp would suggest ATC/massive range/the whole deck.....a raise would put him on a good range percieved by the fish, but maybe crap to us depending on position etc.....

and ive just started with the AF-AFQ stats so im new to this too....what was his AF...im guessing like 1.5 or something
 
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  • #464
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I fail with these acronyms lol, what does BE mean?

break even?....thats the only BE i know
 
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I can't play poker, i dunno whats wrong with my game but im getting absolutely nowhere :(

Ok, really hope you feel better with this.

My October month on 5nl. 15buyins down, 10buyins underev.

2012 oct 5nlbiggestdown15buyins10 ev

Tempted to give up at one point but just step back, review your game, study and keep playing.

5nl so far

I think you got the knowledge, just need to keep the motivation man.
 
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Yes, BE is breakeven.

And peels, I'm not sure if you are frustrated because you feel you are not progressing through the limits, or because you don't feel that your game (knowledge of theory, ability to execute, etc) is progressing.

The former has more to do with variance (something you can't control), and results-orientedness (something you can). I'm guessing it's more the latter, and if that's the case, perhaps you could go for some strategy vids and/or articles, as JB mentioned. I found DC to be fantastic for the time I was a subscribing member. Most people find it to be well worth the price, as well. (I just didn't have time at school to get enough out of it - considering getting a 1-month subscription for my winter break).

And, if you ARE watching vids, and still find yourself not feeling like you are making steps and strides forward, then I would emphasize FOCUSing on the vids you are watching. It is SO easy to watch, but not absorb, or even do other things and "multitask" (there's no such thing, btw, our conscious mind can switch between tasks quickly, but not truly multitask). So try taking notes on vids, or pausing every once in a while and speaking a new concept (or an old one) from the vid out loud to yourself to hammer it home and embed it in your memory in the best way that you understand it.
 
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/Logan/ said:
Ok, really hope you feel better with this.

My October month on 5nl. 15buyins down, 10buyins underev.

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Tempted to give up at one point but just step back, review your game, study and keep playing.

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I think you got the knowledge, just need to keep the motivation man.



what changes did you make to go from 1 extreme to the other?
 
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He turned on the BOOM Switch obv
 
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He turned on the BOOM Switch obv

the enlightened one
 
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I think I would raise the turn tbh. I hate raising with TPGK hands like this as well but his bet sizing on the turn is so small that I think it almost looks like a blocker bet so that we dont make a big bet if he checks.

But as played, Im just flat calling the river as well.

Youve had some pretty interesting spots lately eh lol

Edit: howd you calc your BE in the long run? Isnt it just 1.7/5.8? I get 29%.

Ah I understand what your asking now. Holdem manager 2 gives you the % at which the odds you are getting to call, e.g. 3.41 : 1 (23%). I think this means: if you call the river bet, 23% of the time you will need to be right to break even with the call.
 
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Ah I understand what your asking now. Holdem manager 2 gives you the % at which the odds you are getting to call, e.g. 3.41 : 1 (23%). I think this means: if you call the river bet, 23% of the time you will need to be right to break even with the call.

Isnt that what a standard pot odds calc means tho? Any chance you could find out how it calc'd this? Like 3.41 : 1 is the same as 1 / 3.41 = 29%. Im just curious if theres something that Im missing or have screwed up on..
 
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OK failed with my 16nl/25nl shot...and now running bad at 5nl :(

bankroll is $250, which sucks cos I was hoping to start next year with $500 and a week ago I had about $450. Oh well new year new start :D
 
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Isnt that what a standard pot odds calc means tho? Any chance you could find out how it calc'd this? Like 3.41 : 1 is the same as 1 / 3.41 = 29%. Im just curious if theres something that Im missing or have screwed up on..

I honestly don't know anymore, if anyone has holdem manager 2 on here and would like to explain this?
 
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I honestly don't know anymore, if anyone has holdem manager 2 on here and would like to explain this?

micromachine said:
OK failed with my 16nl/25nl shot...and now running bad at 5nl :(

Bankroll is $250, which sucks cos I was hoping to start next year with $500 and a week ago I had about $450. Oh well new year new start :D

Aww :S, I am at $330. You'll get back there soon. I'll Race you back to 16nl :)

Edit: what about 10nl, you have 25 buy ins for that which is enough, especially since you know what you're doing.

Also failed with the multi-quote lol.
 
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