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can we just flat here IP b/c were deep or do we have to ship it or fold?

So stats cause PT3 doesnt work for on FTP Rush.

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Hero (MP) ($8.52)
CO ($2.50)
Button ($5.88)
SB ($4.50)
BB ($2.60)
Villain (UTG) ($9.01)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q
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, Q
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Villain bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.60, 4 folds, Villain raises to $1.52, Hero ??
 
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pocketehs said:
can we just flat here IP b/c were deep or do we have to ship it or fold?

So stats cause PT3 doesnt work for on FTP Rush.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Hero (MP) ($8.52)
CO ($2.50)
Button ($5.88)
SB ($4.50)
BB ($2.60)
Villain (UTG) ($9.01)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q
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, Q
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Villain bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.60, 4 folds, Villain raises to $1.52, Hero ??

I'm not a fan of trying to stack off this deep unless he's a drooler. Flatting seems standard.
 
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Scourrge said:
I'm not a fan of trying to stack off this deep unless he's a drooler. Flatting seems standard.


love getting rewarded for playing hands properly :)

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Hero (MP) ($8.52)
CO ($2.50)
Button ($5.88)
SB ($4.50)
BB ($2.60)
Villain (UTG) ($9.01)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q
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, Q
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Villain bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.67, 4 folds, Villain raises to $1.52, Hero calls $0.85

Flop: ($3.11) 9
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, 4
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, Q
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(2 players)
Villain bets $2.80, Hero raises to $7 (All-In), Villain calls $4.20

Turn: ($17.11) 8
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($17.11) J
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $17.11 | Rake: $1.14

Results below:
Villain had A
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, A
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(one pair, Aces).
Hero had Q
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, Q
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(three of a kind, Queens).
Outcome: Hero won $15.97
 
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I would flat, don't wana put Q/Q in deep stacked pre-flop unless against a maniac. Btw I typed that sentance before I saw the outcome in second post. That's what he gets for min raising!
 
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is 5nl yosh.

Doc, why the change to FTP?, rake is no a big deal?
 
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flatting a 4bet with any thing but AA looks ehhh to me.
 
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You know what, I was just thinking that this was an area of my game I needed to ask about, we have QQ in the SB, MP/CO Pos-aware Tag opens to 3x and folds to us.

We know he's opening wider than QQ, but if we 3bet its highly likely that 1 of 2 things will happen, we'll get 4bet and have to decide whether we wanna jam or not, because I dont like flatting 4bets there either, or he'll fold to our 3bet and we lose value from all the shit that he's opening with.

It's kinda the same with AQ I guess because either hand we dont want to see a K, and with AQ we're not even overly happy with Axx if we get raised at any point :/
 
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orangepeeleo said:
You know what, I was just thinking that this was an area of my game I needed to ask about, we have QQ in the SB, MP/CO Pos-aware Tag opens to 3x and folds to us.

We know he's opening wider than QQ, but if we 3bet its highly likely that 1 of 2 things will happen, we'll get 4bet and have to decide whether we wanna jam or not, because I dont like flatting 4bets there either, or he'll fold to our 3bet and we lose value from all the shit that he's opening with.

It's kinda the same with AQ I guess because either hand we dont want to see a K, and with AQ we're not even overly happy with Axx if we get raised at any point :/


Easy, just call the raise
 
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/Logan/ said:
is 5nl yosh.

Doc, why the change to FTP?, rake is no a big deal?


had a bonus on there that i was trying to clear before the end of march so i was playing stars and 2 tables of rush :)
 
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/Logan/ said:
is 5nl yosh.

Doc, why the change to FTP?, rake is no a big deal?

Ha true. Anyway hand here against a very loose aggressive. I think once I call the turn I probably have to call the river? I also think that I should have folded the turn as I can't beat anything tbh even though he is very aggressive. I basically just looked at his 3 bet % stat and AGG stat and snap called all the way :/. Also now I have gone over the hand the turn bet looks like he is setting up a river shove and wants to keep me in the pot as the board is very dry.

Hand sample: 368 Stats: 26/22/7.4 3Bet%: 15.9 4bet%: 28.6

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UTG ($10)
Hero (MP) ($29.34)
Button ($24.81)
SB ($28.33)
BB ($17.14)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J
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, J
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1 fold, Hero bets $0.40, Button calls $0.40, 1 fold, BB raises to $1.60, Hero calls $1.20, Button calls $1.20

Flop: ($4.95) 9
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, 2
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, 7
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(3 players)
BB bets $2.40, Hero calls $2.40, 1 fold

Turn: ($9.75) 3
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(2 players)
BB bets $4.60, Hero calls $4.60

River: ($18.95) 10
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(2 players)
BB bets $8.52 (All-In), Hero calls $8.52

Total pot: $35.99 | Rake: $1.50

Results below:
BB had A
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, A
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(one pair, Aces).
Hero didn't show J
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, J
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(nothing).
Outcome: BB won $34.49
 
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I don't know the stats of the other villain, but this is kinda the definition of the perfect squeeze spot, and we happen to basically be at the tippy top of our flatting range here (before the 3bet). Snapping the flop seems fine, though I'd consider raise/folding maybe? Lots of gross turn cards where we have to make shitty decisions. Raise/GII might also be okay on the flop if you know he can bluff off stacks etc.

Turn is kinda meh, because when you call the flop and the turn is a blank, I expect him to give up a ton since the board hasn't changed and he can't rep anything but overpairs. In other words it's a really ballsy bluff or his hand is completely face up and he's just going for pure value. We don't really beat anything.

If you think he can go crazy, then go for it and be ready to snap off the river. But I'm thinking the turn is prob a fold.
 
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Could a min raise on the flop be justified as if we get re-raised then we can safely say we have the worst hand and if he calls and bets turn we can throw it away? Basically a information min-raise.
 
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raise folding is such a waste of money
 
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Hand sample: 148
Stats: 26/13/2.1

I think I should have folded/called? turn as K/J, 4/4, 6/6 beats us and we now only beat K/Q (Maybe he has, although unlikely) and A/K ( also unlikely as we hold an Ace).

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Button ($48.03)
SB ($25.43)
BB ($25.25)
Hero (UTG) ($38.75)
MP ($24.54)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A
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, A
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Hero bets $0.40, 1 fold, Button calls $0.40, 1 fold, BB raises to $2, Hero calls $1.60, Button calls $1.60

Flop: ($6.15) 4
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, 6
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, K
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(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.20, Button calls $3.20, 1 fold

Turn: ($12.55) J
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(2 players)
Hero bets $6, Button raises to $18, Hero raises to $33.53 (All-In), Button calls $15.53

River: ($79.61) 10
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $79.61 | Rake: $1.50

Results below:
Button had 5
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, 7
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(high card, King).
Hero had A
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, A
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(one pair, Aces).
Outcome: Hero won $78.11
 
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OMGITSOVER9K said:
raise folding is such a waste of money

Thanks for making me feel stupid :D

Care to explain why I'm an idiot?
 
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in the JJ hand if we raise we don't get anything that beats us to fold, so its pretty lolbad to do in that spot.

in general raise folding unless its as a thin semi-bluff or pure bluff doesn't make any sense.

I could go into more detail but I honestly don't know how to articulate my thoughts on this too well, get at me on skype.
 
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So I decided to fire up camtasia earlier to record some hot hot hot 10NL 6max action.

Setting the scene:-

Imagine your favourite uncle, you know, the one you're not that sure about but have a soft spot for nonetheless. Well he's sitting in his comfy chair, drinking whiskey and trying to tell various stories while never actually finishing any of them. That is what is in store for you here. If you want cutting edge poker strategy or even just something coherent, please look elsewhere. For everyone else...

 
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OMGITSOVER9K said:
in the JJ hand if we raise we don't get anything that beats us to fold, so its pretty lolbad to do in that spot.

in general raise folding unless its as a thin semi-bluff or pure bluff doesn't make any sense.

I could go into more detail but I honestly don't know how to articulate my thoughts on this too well, get at me on skype.

r/f can be good with value hands if he thinks we have a high bluffing freq and he will bluff catch because he has a very defined weak range, and isnt likely to 3bet bluff the bottom of his range.

ie TPTK we raise flop, check back turn and then snap off his thin value bets.

but yea in general i agree
 
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OMGITSOVER9K said:
in the JJ hand if we raise we don't get anything that beats us to fold, so its pretty lolbad to do in that spot.

in general raise folding unless its as a thin semi-bluff or pure bluff doesn't make any sense.

I could go into more detail but I honestly don't know how to articulate my thoughts on this too well, get at me on skype.

Will make a note to try to pick your brain a bit on this later - thanks for the reply though. :)

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So I decided to fire up camtasia earlier to record some hot hot hot 10NL 6max action.

Setting the scene:-

Imagine your favourite uncle, you know, the one you're not that sure about but have a soft spot for nonetheless. Well he's sitting in his comfy chair, drinking whiskey and trying to tell various stories while never actually finishing any of them. That is what is in store for you here. If you want cutting edge poker strategy or even just something coherent, please look elsewhere. For everyone else...

10NL on ipoker - YouTube

Will def be attacking this soon - looking forward to it!!
 
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in for uncle cafe's videos

can't believe I missed this thread until now! subbin in for sure

Grinding 50nl myself on Lock poker atm...once the roll hits around 3k, i'll be on to 100! Then maybe my journey at the micro stakes will finally come to an end :)
 
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xdeuceswild81xx said:
in for uncle cafe's videos

can't believe I missed this thread until now! subbin in for sure

Grinding 50nl myself on Lock poker atm...once the roll hits around 3k, i'll be on to 100! Then maybe my journey at the micro stakes will finally come to an end :)

welcome dude :)


whats the best thing to do with FTP points? I was using them for satty tournys on the weekend and got a ticket for The Big Little only to realize its a $2.50 buy-in...hahaha
 
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http://weaktight.com/5554025

Been talking to a few guys about this hand, would like to hear what people itt think. Villain is 36/31/ 85% steal from btn. Flop cbet 85% as well. Reg, very aggro and we have some history. (roughly 700 hands)
 
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xdeuceswild81xx said:
http://weaktight.com/5554025

Been talking to a few guys about this hand, would like to hear what people itt think. Villain is 36/31/ 85% steal from btn. Flop cbet 85% as well. Reg, very aggro and we have some history. (roughly 700 hands)

You're gonna have to be a bit more specific than "we have some history." That doesn't give us any info/reads.

My initial reaction is that the only thing that calls our 4bet that we're ahead of is FDs, most likely with 1 or 2 overcards. FDs with overcards have insane equity against us. FD with 1 overcard has 42-44% against us and FDs with 2 overcards are a very slight favorite against us.

Unless he somehow picks up some sick T9 or something here... In which case I doubt he 3bets the flop? Dunno just seems a bit spewy to me to GII here. But again, might depend on what "history" actually means here.
 
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Scourrge said:
You're gonna have to be a bit more specific than "we have some history." That doesn't give us any info/reads.

My initial reaction is that the only thing that calls our 4bet that we're ahead of is FDs, most likely with 1 or 2 overcards. FDs with overcards have insane equity against us. FD with 1 overcard has 42-44% against us and FDs with 2 overcards are a very slight favorite against us.

Unless he somehow picks up some sick T9 or something here... In which case I doubt he 3bets the flop? Dunno just seems a bit spewy to me to GII here. But again, might depend on what "history" actually means here.


he's run some bluffs on me otf before. Tbh, I actually assumed he would 3b me on this board, bc i'm c/r such a narrow range of nut hands ( sets + maybe like AKs but i'm obv 3b pre most spots) It's such an easy flop to c/r air bc villain cbets so wide + doesn't make many nut hands himself. I assumed villain was thinking that my c/r had so much air that he would 3b out my air.


When i ship it, I just think he's getting the odds to call w/fd's, maybe even something like 910 or 98 bc he's thinking I can have big draws + middle pp's trying to blow him off a weak 9.

Sorry if that seems rambling haha, i'm at work and trying to post/work :)

Edit: I pretty much always call otf if I have the A of spades btw

double edit: Last one I swear :) I think this is a spot where I'm obviously pretty polarized, so how does A9 fare against the air hands he has like draws, weak 9's, A4, etc.
 
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