***PLO Cash Game Thread***

[WVHillbilly]

With him checking the turn I would rule out the str8. I think he is betting two pair. I would bet him like you did.

Why would him checking the turn rule out the straight?

 

[Marginal]

Fwiw, I think he is a station so I am not ruling out strong 2 pair hands but nothing really makes sense to me. Oh something else I forgot to mention is that he has been potting post flop when he has big hands, that might change things a little. I definitely think he is going to have a ton of straights but I think he isnt folding the river that often either.

 

[bubbasbestbabe]

He checked the flop, checked the turn, then bet out the river. He is looking for an improvement to his hand but I would say either a set or 2 pair. Unless he is a total donk he wouldn't be chasing the str8 from that point on with the bets that M was tossing out.

 

[WVHillbilly]

I don't know. Give me a JT9x hand with maybe a couple spades on that board and I'm not going anywhere on the flop or turn.

 

[Tygran]

I don't know. Give me a JT9x hand with maybe a couple spades on that board and I'm not going anywhere on the flop or turn.

me either


JT9x is really the only hand that makes any sense... but that doesn't mean we are dealing with someone that knows this

 

[WVHillbilly]

Agreed. Just saying he doesn't have to be a complete idiot to show up with the nuts here.

Honestly if we look at our line from his prospective what can he put us on that he can beat with less than QQxx here? I mean I suppose 66xx might call us here but probably shouldn't. Top 2 (discounted since we have 2 Kings) is just bluff catching in case we are going crazy with AA.

Our line is showing mad strength so I don't think 2 pair is calling this very often. Definitely don't like the shove.

 

[Tygran]

BTW..I seriously jinxed myself a couple weeks ago....


What's the record for the worst losing % when AIPF in an AAxx vs AAxx matchup? Cause I think I'm setting it this week.

(I've seriously lost 8 out of 11, split 2 and won 1 this week.... argh) I had the better AA hand too almost every time.

 

[Marginal]

Agreed. Just saying he doesn't have to be a complete idiot to show up with the nuts here.

Honestly if we look at our line from his prospective what can he put us on that he can beat with less than QQxx here? I mean I suppose 66xx might call us here but probably shouldn't. Top 2 (discounted since we have 2 Kings) is just bluff catching in case we are going crazy with AA.

Our line is showing mad strength so I don't think 2 pair is calling this very often. Definitely don't like the shove.

Totally agree. In hindsight it looks like I am not getting too much value raising here but he showed up with AQ77ss and was betting the river for value which was weird but I do think he is showing more straights here though. I also have to assume that a significant portion of his range will be bluffs and thus my raise is even worse.

 

[c9h13no3]

I'm so bad at Omaha, because I can't dodge flush draws :|.

Feral Cow Poker Hand Converter
PokerStars Pot Limit Omaha $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players

Button: $25.20
SB: $26.82
BB: $25.00 (Hero)
UTG: $8.30
UTG+1: $25.47
CO: $20.11

Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with A♥ 3♠ A♣ K♥ (6 players)
UTG calls $0.25, UTG+1 folds, 2 folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero raises to $1, UTG calls $0.75, SB calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.00) 6♦ K♦ 2♠ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, UTG folds, SB raises to $6.50, Hero calls $4

Turn: ($16.00) 5♥ (2 players)
SB bets $12, Hero raises to $17.50 and is all-in, SB calls $5.50

River: ($51.00) Q♦ (2 players)

SB showed J♣ A♦ 8♥ 8♦, and won ($49) with a flush, Ace high
Hero showed A♥ 3♠ A♣ K♥, and lost with a pair of Aces
SB won $49
(Rake: $2)

 

[Marginal]

I'm just wondering how you are ever ahead on that turn. Villain has to be a huge spaz.

 

[c9h13no3]

Villain has to be a huge spaz.

Yep. More stupid mixed game ridiculousness. He was short, but he also 1-outed me I thought it was impossible to only have 1 out playing PLO.

beware the feral cow packs. they hunger.
PokerStars Pot Limit Omaha $0.10/$0.25 - 6 players

BB: $9.23
UTG: $5.25
UTG+1: $34.02 (Hero)
CO: $4.35
Button: $31.50
SB: $19.75

Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG+1 with 7♦ 2♣ A♣ K♠ (6 players)
UTG calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1, CO folds, Button calls $1, SB folds, BB calls $0.75, UTG calls $0.75

Flop: ($4.10) 7♣ 7♥ 4♠ (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $2.85, Button folds, BB calls $2.85, UTG folds

Turn: ($9.80) 8♣ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5.40, BB calls $5.38 and is all-in

River: ($20.56) A♥ (2 players)

BB showed A♦ A♠ 3♣ J♣, and won ($19.56) with a full house, Aces full of Sevens
Hero showed 7♦ 2♣ A♣ K♠, and lost with a full house, Sevens full of Aces
BB won $19.56
(Rake: $1)

 

[Marginal]

Since my 2 month break I, for the life of me, cannot beat an omaha game. I'm going to chalk this one up to playing like a monkey but there is also a little bit of run bad in it. I seriously need to rework my game and change somethings.

 

[Tygran]

Ouch c9... That doesn't happen often..

Is AK72 SS a standard open utg+1 for you or did it have something to do with that paicular table? Seems a bit loose to me.... Really not a particularly good hand, esp oop.

Of course if you have a table you feel you can push around alot I guess this is mostly irrelevant.

 

[slycbnew]

Played 2k hands yesterday and today - I'm rusty, but picked up a couple of bi's anyhow.

Watched a couple of cool videos of 400plo - the emphasis is on identifying villain types as quickly as possible (the series title is "pregaming") so you can identify what your btn range should be, who you're 3betting widely, who you're looking to play lots of pots with/isolating, what strategies are appropriate for ss's, etc., all the good stuff on table dynamics.

The catch is that there were generally 5 regs and at most 1 fish on each of his tables - not what I'm used to seeing at micro. But food for thought.

 

[slycbnew]

Oh, and I found this really great article on 3betting in PLO, really good stuff, including a little compare/contrast w 3betting in NLHE: http://www.nutblocker.com/wiki//263401

 

[Marginal]

I just need to remind myself that I am getting my money in good but ffs I am running like horseshit. Vid is postponed till I can have a winning session

 

[workinonit]

Vid is postponed till I can have a winning session

 

[Marginal]

Its the 35 buy in downer. I cant do it like this

 

[Marginal]

Ok, If anyone sees me playing anything but 10PLO on ftp, I will ship you 100$. Only stipulation is that you post a screenshot in this thread. This ends by the first of July.

Sn is filming midgets

 

[Tygran]

Yeah I just dropped down in stakes myself... The week before this? Awesomeness. This week? OMFG I can't win anything.

Flop can be two-tone or rainbow...doesn't matter...but if I hit a set on it I'm gonna lose to somebody who won't fold a flush draw.

Oh and I got 1 outted myself yesterday c9 lol.

AQ5 rainbow flop, I have AAxx. Turn is a Q. Villain had QQxx. /argh

 

[workinonit]

Played 2k hands yesterday and today - I'm rusty, but picked up a couple of bi's anyhow.

Watched a couple of cool videos of 400plo - the emphasis is on identifying villain types as quickly as possible (the series title is "pregaming") so you can identify what your btn range should be, who you're 3betting widely, who you're looking to play lots of pots with/isolating, what strategies are appropriate for ss's, etc., all the good stuff on table dynamics.

The catch is that there were generally 5 regs and at most 1 fish on each of his tables - not what I'm used to seeing at micro. But food for thought.

Yeah just started watching 'Pregaming'. Big MagicNinja fan and the video is looking good so far. Really wanna be playing more PLO. Up to now it's been something I've dabbled in sometimes rather than play often. I think I'm gonna look at splitting the amount of NL/PLO like 60/40ish, which I think is fine at the micros. I think 100PLO/NL and upwards I'd be looking to specialise a bit more but atm I don't think it's important. So yeah, basically trying to watch as many PLO vids/learn as much as possible

 

[Marginal]

I give up. Im done.

 

[workinonit]

I give up. Im done.

Sayyy wha'? Things can't be that bad

 

[slycbnew]

I give up. Im done.

Are you playing deep tables? Maybe try just playing 100bb's for a while, limit the variance? gl whatever you decide.

 

[slycbnew]

Yeah just started watching 'Pregaming'. Big MagicNinja fan and the video is looking good so far. Really wanna be playing more PLO. I think I'm gonna look at splitting the amount of NL/PLO like 60/40ish, which I think is fine at the micros.

If you're splitting time, and haven't already, check out Coaching Kristy and Moneytrain to Midstakesville as well as Pregaming. Some interesting overlapping themes across them, even though the others are NLHE (I really liked about 6 of the 8 Coaching vids, and liked the first two Moneytrain vids more than the third).