Polished Poker Vol. I Study Group

Sneaky Feet said:

Right call? I had to think about this one a bit...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

MP1 ($2.41)
MP2 ($3.46)
CO ($0.80)
Button ($1.84)
SB ($0.89)
Hero (BB) ($2.56)
UTG ($2.24)
UTG+1 ($1.10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K

, Q

1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.08, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.08, CO (poster) calls $0.06, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.33) A

, 10

, K

(4 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks, CO checks

Turn: ($0.33) 9

(4 players)
Hero bets $0.14, UTG+1 calls $0.14, 2 folds

River: ($0.61) 6

(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $0.53, Hero folds

Total pot: $0.61 | Rake: $0.02

Results below:

Spoiler

UTG+1 didn't show

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I like the way you played this hand right up to the river. We could do with some stats on your opponent to know how loose he is.
So in a vacuum he plays this very passive on flop and turn and then bets the river large? This could easily be a bluff with a missed draw and you could of headed that off by putting in a blocker/suck bet on the river of about 20% of the pot. This vastly reduces his bluffing options as doesnt know if you have it or not. Your check on the ends says you dont have much and opens the way. Your pair of kings have some value here, with his opening raise he could easily have Jj or even QQ and rightly hates the flop. Sure you could be beat so bet river small and fold to a raise.

Figaroo2 said:

I like the way you played this hand right up to the river. We could do with some stats on your opponent to know how loose he is.
So in a vacuum he plays this very passive on flop and turn and then bets the river large? This could easily be a bluff with a missed draw and you could of headed that off by putting in a blocker/suck bet on the river of about 20% of the pot. This vastly reduces his bluffing options as doesnt know if you have it or not. Your check on the ends says you dont have much and opens the way. Your pair of kings have some value here, with his opening raise he could easily have Jj or even QQ and rightly hates the flop. Sure you could be beat so bet river small and fold to a raise.

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I like the plan

Manaic alert

(IPoker) £20.00 GBP NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, June 20, 11:40:20 ET 2014
Table Premium Table 9d (real money)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( £31.69 GBP ) -
Seat 3: Player3 ( £24.17 GBP ) -
Seat 5: Player5 ( £77.33 GBP ) -
Seat 6: Player6 ( £22.55 GBP ) -
Seat 8: Player8 ( £30.36 GBP ) - VPIP: 92, PFR: 26, 3B: 7, AF: 2.1, hands: 53
Seat 10: Hero ( £27.71 GBP ) - :

Dealt to Hero [ 5h 5s ]
Hero raises [£0.60 GBP]
Player8 calls [£0.40 GBP]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5d, 6s, 2d ] I flop a set
Player8 bets [£1.30 GBP] Fish was betting full pot every hand when 1st in.
Hero calls [£1.30 GBP] rope a dope, no need to raise this guy and telegraph our strength
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ks ]
Player8 bets [£3.90 GBP] lovely thank you
Hero calls [£3.90 GBP] rope a dope
** Dealing River ** [ 9h ]
Player8 checks ok how much to bet? decent value, don't think shoving is right and gives him the option to go all in if he wants
Hero bets [£10.00 GBP]
Player8 calls [£10.00 GBP]
Hero wins £30.12 GBP from main pot
Player8 shows [6h, Jh ] Pair of sixes way to go my man...

5 minutes later same opponent.
IPoker £20.00 GBP NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, June 20, 11:45:02 ET 2014
Table Premium Table 9d (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( £32.77 GBP ) -
Seat 3: Player3 ( £23.77 GBP )
Seat 6: Player6 ( £0.00 GBP )
Seat 8: Player8 ( £8.00 GBP ) - VPIP: 92, PFR: 26, 3B: 7, AF: 2.1, Hands: 53
Seat 10: Hero ( £41.73 GBP ) -

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Js Jh ]
Hero raises [£0.60 GBP]
Player8 calls [£0.40 GBP]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4s, 5h, Jc ] excellent another set
Player8 checks
Hero bets [£0.20 GBP]
Player8 calls [£0.20 GBP]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3c ]
Player8 bets [£1.70 GBP] here he goes again
Hero calls [£1.70 GBP]
** Dealing River ** [ 4c ]
Player8 bets [£5.50 GBP] lovely thank you again
Hero calls [£5.50 GBP]
Hero wins £15.30 GBP from main pot
Player8 shows [3d, Kh ] a pair of 3s

Lucky to hit the sets obviously but tptk would have done just as well.

This is all on Ipoker this month

Mainly 10nl but moved up to 20nl yesterday evening, still fish a plenty

Which skin is that wh?

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Figaroo2 said:

Mainly 10nl but moved up to 20nl yesterday evening, still fish a plenty

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Nice! Congrats

I've got a couple of hands for you guys. What's your play?

IPoker, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $1.60 (32 bb)
Hero (BB): $5.41 (108.2 bb)
UTG: $7.60 (152 bb)
MP: $1.87 (37.4 bb)
CO: $5.47 (109.4 bb)
BTN: $5.12 (102.4 bb) Aggro reg (29/23 AF% 38, 3b 7,3; 970 hands)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J J
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.12, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BTN raises to $0.90, Hero?

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IPoker, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $2.01 (40.2 bb)
BB: $5.76 (115.2 bb) Aggro reg (25/22, AF% 49, 3b 10,0; 295 hands)
UTG: $2.40 (48 bb)
MP: $1.74 (34.8 bb)
CO: $2.26 (45.2 bb) Fish
Hero (BTN): $6.41 (128.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q K
2 folds, CO calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.20, SB folds, BB raises to $0.70, CO folds, Hero raises to $1.60, BB calls $0.90

Flop: ($3.27) 3 A 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.70, BB calls $1.70

Turn: ($6.67) 8 (2 players)
Hero?

fishinthesea said:

Ok, so I've played over 3k hands, pretty small sample size. But I looked at my stats and it says I'm losing the majority of my money in the BB. I see myself 3-betting a lot of speculative hands versus people with high VPIP. Should I tighten my range in the BB and stop 3-betting speculative hands like A5o+ or cold call more often? I'm so lost. Overall, i'm up like 4 buy ins at 25nl but I feel like if I plug my big blind losses I'd be up like 10 buy ins atm...

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Post some stats and we can help out. I'd wait until you get at least 10k though.

On a side note...
Internet connection is really sporadic out here. It's constantly going down, but I'll check in as I can. I'll post some pics too if you guys want to see with a brief trip report. This is only the third Caribbean island I've been to, but I have something to compare it to.

John A said:

Post some stats and we can help out. I'd wait until you get at least 10k though.

On a side note...
Internet connection is really sporadic out here. It's constantly going down, but I'll check in as I can. I'll post some pics too if you guys want to see with a brief trip report. This is only the third Caribbean island I've been to, but I have something to compare it to.

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Some pics and a report would be nice

One of the recent themes of this thread was not missing value on the river. This is an area where I do feel in need of improvement. There havent been many examples posted on this thread if anyone wants to post any intetesting hands that went to the river please do so and I will also have a trawl through my recent hands.

Figaroo2 said:

I like the way you played this hand right up to the river. We could do with some stats on your opponent to know how loose he is.
So in a vacuum he plays this very passive on flop and turn and then bets the river large? This could easily be a bluff with a missed draw and you could of headed that off by putting in a blocker/suck bet on the river of about 20% of the pot. This vastly reduces his bluffing options as doesnt know if you have it or not. Your check on the ends says you dont have much and opens the way. Your pair of kings have some value here, with his opening raise he could easily have Jj or even QQ and rightly hates the flop. Sure you could be beat so bet river small and fold to a raise.

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Thanks for this. I never even thought of a bluff blocker. I'll definitely add this to my arsenal.

Figaroo2 said:

One of the recent themes of this thread was not missing value on the river. This is an area where I do feel in need of improvement. There havent been many examples posted on this thread if anyone wants to post any intetesting hands that went to the river please do so and I will also have a trawl through my recent hands.

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ye i would love to improve in those situations

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Fisi said:

I've got a couple of hands for you guys. What's your play?

IPoker, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $1.60 (32 bb)
Hero (BB): $5.41 (108.2 bb)
UTG: $7.60 (152 bb)
MP: $1.87 (37.4 bb)
CO: $5.47 (109.4 bb)
BTN: $5.12 (102.4 bb) Aggro reg (29/23 AF% 38, 3b 7,3; 970 hands)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

J

3 folds, BTN raises to $0.12, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BTN raises to $0.90, Hero?

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IPoker, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $2.01 (40.2 bb)
BB: $5.76 (115.2 bb) Aggro reg (25/22, AF% 49, 3b 10,0; 295 hands)
UTG: $2.40 (48 bb)
MP: $1.74 (34.8 bb)
CO: $2.26 (45.2 bb) Fish
Hero (BTN): $6.41 (128.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q

K

2 folds, CO calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.20, SB folds, BB raises to $0.70, CO folds, Hero raises to $1.60, BB calls $0.90

Flop: ($3.27) 3

A

3

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.70, BB calls $1.70

Turn: ($6.67) 8

(2 players)
Hero?

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I'll give it a go. The first hand with button's stat's I'd say he's 3betting pretty wide and with is post aggression to me this looks like a better place to shove preflop than 4bet as he may just call and shove the flop.

Second hand is a trouble hand for me so I'd be stuck on what to do. I'd probably check the turn and check fold the river considering villain could have flopped a full house.

This and a $1.50 will buy you a cheap cup of coffee but how'd I do?

Preflop: Hero is BB with J J
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.12, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BTN raises to $0.90, Hero?
NEVER 3 bet without a plan!!
3 betting is usually either for value or as a bluff raise with a slightly weaker range against someone opening too wide. (this is the polarising range that is talked about widely in John's workbook... read it again!)
JJ against this villain is for value, the chances of him being better than you here are small. He is likely opening almost 50% of his button hands you are crushing that range.
With the 4 bet you have to narrow his range substantially but its such a small 4 bet its probably Ax (part of his 4 bet bluff range), this is not a nit you are dealing with here.
Because there is no easy way to play JJ in this situation either 5 bet all in or call and shove every flop that doesnt have an ace. JJ is 56% against AK you are only behind to 3 hands....

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q K
2 folds, CO calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.20, SB folds, BB raises to $0.70, CO folds, Hero raises to $1.60, BB calls $0.90

IMO KQ suited is not a 4 betting hand. When you 4 bet (again as with 3 betting) its for value or as a bluff, You should either be prepared to go either all the way for value or have an easy fold to a 5 bet or shove.
KQ suited isnt really strong enough to go all in with but does have significant value as a three bet calling hand especially on the button.
You got into a right pickle on this hand because you repped an ace which is right smack in his 4 bet calling range AQ AK
Call the three bet in position here.
You want to 4 bet bluff against players who 3 bet too much with Ax which gives you a chance to out flop 4 bet calling hands like 99 TT JJ QQ KQ, but are easy to fold to the 5 bet/shove.

Hey guys, thanks for the input!

Sneaky Feet said:

I'll give it a go. The first hand with button's stat's I'd say he's 3betting pretty wide and with is post aggression to me this looks like a better place to shove preflop than 4bet as he may just call and shove the flop.

Second hand is a trouble hand for me so I'd be stuck on what to do. I'd probably check the turn and check fold the river considering villain could have flopped a full house.

This and a $1.50 will buy you a cheap cup of coffee but how'd I do?

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I agree, however you misread the hand a bit. I 3bet, not the villain

The analysis on the second hands looks right, he could have not just AA, but also AK, AQ, which he isn't folding.

I think you did pretty well, thanks

Figaroo2 said:

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

J

3 folds, BTN raises to $0.12, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BTN raises to $0.90, Hero?
NEVER 3 bet without a plan!!
3 betting is usually either for value or as a bluff raise with a slightly weaker range against someone opening too wide. (this is the polarising range that is talked about widely in John's workbook... read it again!)
JJ against this villain is for value, the chances of him being better than you here are small. He is likely opening almost 50% of his button hands you are crushing that range.
With the 4 bet you have to narrow his range substantially but its such a small 4 bet its probably Ax (part of his 4 bet bluff range), this is not a nit you are dealing with here.
Because there is no easy way to play JJ in this situation either 5 bet all in or call and shove every flop that doesnt have an ace. JJ is 56% against AK you are only behind to 3 hands....

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Yeah, learned that lesson pretty quick I'll share my plan, just didn't want to give too much away just yet, because I wanted to see how you guys would react Fully agree with your analysis here.

Figaroo2 said:

Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q

K

2 folds, CO calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.20, SB folds, BB raises to $0.70, CO folds, Hero raises to $1.60, BB calls $0.90

IMO KQ suited is not a 4 betting hand. When you 4 bet (again as with 3 betting) its for value or as a bluff, You should either be prepared to go either all the way for value or have an easy fold to a 5 bet or shove.
KQ suited isnt really strong enough to go all in with but does have significant value as a three bet calling hand especially on the button.
You got into a right pickle on this hand because you repped an ace which is right smack in his 4 bet calling range AQ AK
Call the three bet in position here.
You want to 4 bet bluff against players who 3 bet too much with Ax which gives you a chance to out flop 4 bet calling hands like 99 TT JJ QQ KQ, but are easy to fold to the 5 bet/shove.

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Agree with this, I think I misplayed it here.


My thoughts about the hands:
JJ - I know villain is opening really wide here, so I 3bet for value. After he 4bets, I think he has some bluffs in his 4betting range (Ax), but may also play AQ/AJ this way. He leveraged me very nicely with his sizing, so my options were fold, or 5b shove 90 BB into 30 BB pot (well done). I decided to 5b shove, thinking he will fold his Ax, including AQ,while I'm still ahead of AK, which he calls with. He called with QQ. I would have probably played it the same again, as I'm not sure calling is an option against an aggressive opponent like this, while folding isn't an option either.

KQ - I gave you a little bit too much info here, should have just stopped on the flop without action. I isolated a limping fish, which I do with a wide range. I'm sure the reg is competent, and is aware of my wide range here and is therefore 3-betting wide himself. Here i decided to 4b as a bluff and fold to a shove, but he surprised me and called. I'm pretty sure he would have 5b all in AK oop pf, so his range in my mind is mostly made of AQ and TT-QQ perhaps, maybe slowplayed AA or KK. I was planing on giving up, however the flop was a pretty nice one for me to represent an A, so he might have folded his pocket pairs vs. a cbet. After he called, the turn went x/x, and he shoved on a blank river. Figaroo, I agree with you that it might be a strong enough hand to call the 3bet with ip. I would have still played the hand the same way with something like KJo though.

Figaroo2 said:

One of the recent themes of this thread was not missing value on the river. This is an area where I do feel in need of improvement. There havent been many examples posted on this thread if anyone wants to post any intetesting hands that went to the river please do so and I will also have a trawl through my recent hands.

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I've got an interesting spot, will post it tommorow when I get back home

Bet river here?

(poker stars) $10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em
Table Kokkola II (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $7.80 USD ) - VPIP: 36, PFR: 9, 3B: 0, AF: 4.0, Hands: 22
Seat 2: Player2 ( $8.48 USD ) - VPIP: 32, PFR: 27, 3B: 10, AF: 3.3, Hands: 77
Seat 4: Player4 ( $12.34 USD ) - VPIP: 18, PFR: 14, 3B: 6, AF: 0.0, Hands: 77
Seat 5: Player5 ( $10.00 USD ) - VPIP: 3, PFR: 3, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 31
Seat 6: Player6 ( $10.22 USD ) - VPIP: 8, PFR: 5, 3B: 0, AF: 3.3, Hands: 178
Seat 7: Hero ( $33.36 USD ) - VPIP: 21, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 2.1
Seat 8: Player8 ( $4.00 USD ) - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 6, AF: 6.6, Hands: 333
Seat 9: Player9 ( $10.35 USD ) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 11, 3B: 9, AF: 4.0, Hands: 54
Player4 posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
Player5 posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Js Jc ]
Player6 folds
Hero raises [$0.30 USD]
Player8 folds
Player9 calls [$0.30 USD]
Player1 folds
Player2 raises [$1.30 USD]
Player4 folds
Player5 folds
Hero calls [$1.00 USD] I decide to flat this 3 bet hand. he is far too loose for a full ring table and 10% 3 bet. His stack size seems a bit fishy as well. Player 9 is still in behind me to act.
Should we 4 bet with a player still to act? personally I don't like 4 betting here in case player 9 was trapping with premium. Something i'm doing a lot more in position hoping for a squeeze from a lag on the button or in the blinds, just like our villain here.
Player9 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7c, 3s, 3h ]
Hero checks
Player2 bets [$1.40 USD] half pot i'm happy enough to just call here with his high agg factor I expect him to keep betting.
In hindsight a raise here is probably better to take it down now before any scare cards come.
Hero calls [$1.40 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ah ] and there is the scare card. I would expect a 10% 3 bet range to have an ace here at least half the time.
Hero checks
Player2 checks
** Dealing River ** [ 3c ] This looks like an excellent card for my hand
I'm thinking if he didn't bet the ace on the turn he must still behind me here.
What ranges should we be putting him on here and as a result if we bet for value how much?

10% three bet range

Looking at the 10% range he could have a wide variety here including A-8/9/10, 6s through 10s and Kx
If he has an ace 8,9,10 he should be concerned of being dominated which might explain no lead out on the turn. If he has this hand he would surely call at least up to half pot.
If he has no ace then he has almost certainly missed, in which case he wont call much of any bet.
If he has a lower pair he might call a suck bet.
So some of the time we bet up to half pot we lose to Ax and if he has a small pair he might call. If he has Kx he wont call anything.
So is there any point betting jacks here?

Thanks for the comments guys on my analysis for your hands. Doing this really does help me to learn more.

Fig on your hand if it were me in this situation I would...... Wow now I'm rethinking it again, that's a tough spot. Villian could have checked through with Ax to disguise his strength and because he has postion in you even if you put out a small bet (1/3) he may still raise you and rep an Ace if he feels you'll fold a higher percentage of the time. At the same time checking is potentially bad too although if you check you put him in the position of how large a value bet should he make?

In this position I would rather call a value bet than a reraise value bet so I would probably just check the river.

Best case on this one was your second thought. Shove the flop before and scare cards come.

Feed back helps! Thanks for this opportunity.

I have another question for you guys. I'm having difficulty with hands like KQ, KJ, QJ, suited and off in early to mid position with action behind. I've always felt that if the hand is strong enough limp it's strong enough to bet so usually with these hands preflop I'll bet 3bb. If I miss the flop I'll continue 1/2 the pot. If villain folds I'm good but I would say about 1/3 of the time I'll get a caller and miss the turn too.

I guess this is a 2 part question and I'll go back and read through the forum again because I know part of this question was already answered regarding being lost on the turn. So a) Should I limp these types of hands in early and mid position? B) If I miss the turn should I double barrel? I know this is dependent on texture so this may be a tougher question to answer. And again I'll go back and re-read the previous threads on this.

Figaroo2 said:

(Poker Stars) $10.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em
Table Kokkola II (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: Player1 ( $7.80 USD ) - VPIP: 36, PFR: 9, 3B: 0, AF: 4.0, Hands: 22
Seat 2: Player2 ( $8.48 USD ) - VPIP: 32, PFR: 27, 3B: 10, AF: 3.3, Hands: 77
Seat 4: Player4 ( $12.34 USD ) - VPIP: 18, PFR: 14, 3B: 6, AF: 0.0, Hands: 77
Seat 5: Player5 ( $10.00 USD ) - VPIP: 3, PFR: 3, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 31
Seat 6: Player6 ( $10.22 USD ) - VPIP: 8, PFR: 5, 3B: 0, AF: 3.3, Hands: 178
Seat 7: Hero ( $33.36 USD ) - VPIP: 21, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 2.1
Seat 8: Player8 ( $4.00 USD ) - VPIP: 16, PFR: 13, 3B: 6, AF: 6.6, Hands: 333
Seat 9: Player9 ( $10.35 USD ) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 11, 3B: 9, AF: 4.0, Hands: 54
Player4 posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
Player5 posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Js Jc ]
Player6 folds
Hero raises [$0.30 USD]
Player8 folds
Player9 calls [$0.30 USD]
Player1 folds
Player2 raises [$1.30 USD]
Player4 folds
Player5 folds
Hero calls [$1.00 USD] I decide to flat this 3 bet hand. he is far too loose for a full ring table and 10% 3 bet. His stack size seems a bit fishy as well. Player 9 is still in behind me to act.
Should we 4 bet with a player still to act? personally I don't like 4 betting here in case player 9 was trapping with premium. Something i'm doing a lot more in position hoping for a squeeze from a lag on the button or in the blinds, just like our villain here.
Player9 folds
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7c, 3s, 3h ]
Hero checks
Player2 bets [$1.40 USD] half pot i'm happy enough to just call here with his high agg factor I expect him to keep betting.
In hindsight a raise here is probably better to take it down now before any scare cards come.
Hero calls [$1.40 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ah ] and there is the scare card. I would expect a 10% 3 bet range to have an ace here at least half the time.
Hero checks
Player2 checks
** Dealing River ** [ 3c ] This looks like an excellent card for my hand
I'm thinking if he didn't bet the ace on the turn he must still behind me here.
What ranges should we be putting him on here and as a result if we bet for value how much?

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A 4bet preflop might be the best idea as the aggro guy is paying you off with worse, and player 9 having a premium here is a long shot if you ask me, especially with having no reads on him that he traps with premiums pre and only 50 hands.

On the flop given that he is short, shoving that flop is probably the best idea. I'm pretty sure you will get calls from all pairs and AT+, maybe even worse.

As it was played, I would put him either on a low Ax, which he checked behind for pot control, a high Ax, which he checked behind to try to trap you and get some value on the river, or a pocket pair he just wants to get to showdown with. Him having air here is pretty much impossible as he always bets once the turn comes a perfect scare card for him here. I'm not sure if there is value in betting here, given that his range is heavily weighted towards Ax, as I think he often just calls with medium pairs pf against two people.

Sneaky Feet said:

I have another question for you guys. I'm having difficulty with hands like KQ, KJ, QJ, suited and off in early to mid position with action behind. I've always felt that if the hand is strong enough limp it's strong enough to bet so usually with these hands preflop I'll bet 3bb. If I miss the flop I'll continue 1/2 the pot. If villain folds I'm good but I would say about 1/3 of the time I'll get a caller and miss the turn too.

I guess this is a 2 part question and I'll go back and read through the forum again because I know part of this question was already answered regarding being lost on the turn. So a) Should I limp these types of hands in early and mid position? B) If I miss the turn should I double barrel? I know this is dependent on texture so this may be a tougher question to answer. And again I'll go back and re-read the previous threads on this.

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a) If you're not comfortable playing these hands oop from early position, you should tighten up and fold them, don't limp.

b) Do check the previous threads on this, as this is highly villain and board texture dependent. As a general rule though, high cards increase your fold equity, low cards and cards that make the board more connected decrease your fold equity.

Sneaky Feet said:

I have another question for you guys. I'm having difficulty with hands like KQ, KJ, QJ, suited and off in early to mid position with action behind. I've always felt that if the hand is strong enough limp it's strong enough to bet so usually with these hands preflop I'll bet 3bb. If I miss the flop I'll continue 1/2 the pot. If villain folds I'm good but I would say about 1/3 of the time I'll get a caller and miss the turn too.

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Just don't play these trouble hands very often, the earlier position you play them from the more likely someone in later position has an A with K/Q/J then you are stuffed. AQ v QJs with a Q on the flop = trouble.
I like to think of these hands as drawing hands to try and make straights rather than tptk type hands.
QJ suited id rather make a straight than the flush anyway as you can still lose a bundle to a higher flush. Playing tag I won't open this hand in full ring more than once a session pre the cut off.

How about this one guys?

IPoker, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
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SB: $1.71 (34.2 bb)
BB: $5.80 (116 bb)
UTG: $4.93 (98.6 bb)
MP: $5.80 (116 bb)
Hero (CO): $5.30 (106 bb)
BTN: $17.53 (350.6 bb) (19/13, AF% 36; 3b 5,8; 986 hands)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BTN raises to $0.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.35

I decided to flat here, becasue the villain is pretty tight passive and I think that with a 4b here I would isolate myself against his strongest range (AK, QQ+), while he would have folded all weaker hands. After the 3b, I put him on a range of 99+, AQ+ and maybe a few bluffs with Ax.

Flop: ($1.07) 5 6 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.07, Hero calls $1.07

A raise might have been good here? Probably doesn't fold 99-JJ.

Turn: ($3.21) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

After he checks, him having an ace here is a bit less likely. I remember ruling it out almost completely on the spot, but looking back, it wasn't the smartest move as he could have his Ax bluffs which he pot controlls with or AQ/AK, which he checks behind to get value on the river.

River: ($3.21) 5 (2 players)

Our options:
- bet small to get calls from 99-JJ
- bet bigger to maybe get calls from 99-JJ and maybe make him lay down KK
- check/fold?

What is your play?