*****Vinyl's GonnaCrushDAmicros 6max thread******

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I don't know villain, but he could check behind if he didn't bink the st8. Just bet for value. You have to bet when you bluff right? So balance it when you bet for value.
 
gAsheks said:
You seem quite passive and 3betting only nuts 😀


True that bro. I dont 3bet almost anything and also i like to let them hang themselves(because they love doing that at 5NL if you miss a Cbet).


After trying different approaches at 5NL zoom/rush, i believe that playing kinda nitty(or passive if you wish), yet solid , that you can still maintain a good enough winrate.


Although im pretty sure that it wont do that well in higher limits.
 
JOEBOB69 said:
I don't know villain, but he could check behind if he didn't bink the st8. Just bet for value. You have to bet when you bluff right? So balance it when you bet for value.



Yea, i guess at the end of the day we are losing value with checks in these spots cause the times that they will check behind might not be able to compensate for the times when they bet and we get to 3betjam.(and get called for that matter)
 
Vinyl have you read "our" older micro thread. Me,fx,deuce,Tyler,Peelo,Cman,etc..
There was a lot of good stuff in there, Hell just in fx's thread there was a lot of good stuff.
 
vinylspiros said:
True that bro. I dont 3bet almost anything and also i like to let them hang themselves(because they love doing that at 5NL if you miss a Cbet).


After trying different approaches at 5NL zoom/rush, i believe that playing kinda nitty(or passive if you wish), yet solid , that you can still maintain a good enough winrate.


Although im pretty sure that it wont do that well in higher limits.

Well, 25/17 isn't nitty. Although gap seems a bit too big. Smells, that you're calling too much preflop 🙂 But if its working, then its perfectly fine.
 
gAsheks said:
Well, 25/17 isn't nitty. Although gap seems a bit too big. Smells, that you're calling too much preflop 🙂 But if its working, then its perfectly fine.



Nitty in regards to blowing up big pots without strong hands. If im not already made or drawing strong,i preffer the check/call approach sometimes.(and it is profitable)

Problem is im losing value, sure, but its also less variant and thats what im trying to avoid right now.


thnks for tips though. 🙂
 
@gasheks. Example would be me not 3betting AK sometimes and pick up speed post flop.
 
gAsheks said:
You seem quite passive and 3betting only nuts 😀

Dude, it's a 572 hand sample (I assume you're referring to that), I'm pretty sure vinyl 3bets more like 5% overall than the 2% stat shown there.
 
micromachine said:
Dude, it's a 572 hand sample (I assume you're referring to that), I'm pretty sure vinyl 3bets more like 5% overall than the 2% stat shown there.


my overall is at around 7%. but im trying to cut it down a bit because my high variant game tends to swing downwards when i lose control of my aggression.😛
 
vinylspiros said:
]I mean villain is going to stab trips if checked to him most of the time right? I dont think that the fish at 5NL check behind so they dont find themselves in yucky spots.

What do you think?

JOEBOB69 said:
I don't know villain, but he could check behind if he didn't bink the st8. Just bet for value. You have to bet when you bluff right? So balance it when you bet for value.

I agree with JB, just bet for value, I think villain could easily check back with trips and weaker flushes on that board in the 33 hand
 
Villains stats

24/6/3
7.1 (3b)


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

Hero (CO) ($5.17)
Button ($5.35)
SB ($3.69)
BB ($2.08)
UTG ($8.35)
MP ($5)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q
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, A
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UTG raises to $0.17, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.17, Button calls $0.17, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.58) Q
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, 2
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, 7
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(3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.31, Button calls $0.31, 1 fold

Turn: ($1.20) 8
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.66, Button raises to $1.76, Hero folds

Total pot: $2.52 | Rake: $0.12

Results below:
Button didn't show
Outcome: Button won $2.40



these type of spots come along very often. I snap fold them most of the time. this smells like set all day long. Am i being bullied? Guy is practically an unknown but i dont see what i can be beating here.


I mean if hes drawing to the flush,he would have went over the top on the flop right?
 
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Yeah probably best to fold there, will be a set quite often. But then again raising the turn with a draw is not uncommon (I do it quite a bit anyway). Think I would've bet the turn a little bigger, like 80c, your bet looks a bit weak there imo and he might have picked up on that and bullied you 😉 Who knows.

What happened to the $700 you won? Did you cash out?
 
micromachine said:
Yeah probably best to fold there, will be a set quite often. But then again raising the turn with a draw is not uncommon (I do it quite a bit anyway). Think I would've bet the turn a little bigger, like 80c, your bet looks a bit weak there imo and he might have picked up on that and bullied you 😉 Who knows.



^^^^Couldnt stop thinking about that. Don't like my turn sizing at all .( thats why i posted the hand.was thinking that my turn sizing might have opened the door for him to go over the top)

What happened to the $700 you won? Did you cash out?


yea i did. The 700 after taxes taken from the greek government turned into 560(they took 20%). Then when i turned that into euros, it was only like 420 euros.

cashed out like 390 of that . lost the rest and am now playing on FT with a roll of like 90$(which i made from a 10$ deposit i made 3 days ago).🙂
 
duggs said:
jesus they taxed 20% do they do it based on net winnings?


Exactly, winnings within 24 hours. anything below 100 is not taxed. from 100-500 its 15%, and from 500 and above its 20%. 😡


So those A-holes took 150$ from my profit.
 
vinylspiros said:
Exactly, winnings within 24 hours. anything below 100 is not taxed. from 100-500 its 15%, and from 500 and above its 20%. 😡


So those A-holes took 150$ from my profit.

That's absurd, it's not done on net winnings long term? Does stars just pull it out for them?
 
duggs said:
That's absurd, it's not done on net winnings long term? Does stars just pull it out for them?


Yea, like ive said before somewhere:

Every day at 6:59 AM. Any profits that exceed 100$ are automatically taxed and deducted from my account as cashouts and go to a greek company called group holding etc etc

This started in Novemeber. Its really bad.


The thing is , when this taxaction begun, i was grinding 5NL so i never had daily winnings over 100$. So i was never taxed.


Lemme put it this way.

If i start the day with 100$ in my account and before i go to bed it is 199$ total, then i will not be taxed a penny.

If by the time i go to bed, my account balance is 201$ i will be taxed 15% on 101$ which is my net profit for the 24 hour period and i will be deducted around 15$(which is around 15% of my 101$ profit for the day) and will leave my account the next morning with around 185$.


get it?
 
Christ, and you can't transfer to cheat the system? what about rake back etc? That would make the game unbeatable due to rake imo.
 
Like actually **** that, thats so redic. you can't claim back your taxes on your losing days?
 

So, if you bink a tourney and win $1000 they take $200?

Damn, that is so ****ing retarded and sad.



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