*****Vinyl's GonnaCrushDAmicros 6max thread******

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Well yes and no, you might have just run really well cards wise, run into the bottom of people's ranges. I guess tho that you just played solid, got paid a few times, and the situations you are most likely leaking in just didn't come up
 
duggs said:
Well yes and no, you might have just run really well cards wise, run into the bottom of people's ranges. I guess tho that you just played solid, got paid a few times, and the situations you are most likely leaking in just didn't come up



Yea, im realy trying to be on my a-game and extract as much value as i could without almost ever bluffing more than 1 street. If i meet resistance ,i just release and move on.


Here is a hand that i like my river play. was planning on check/rasing river but he did all the work for me.

Surprisingly villains stats: 13/10/0.8




Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

Hero (SB) ($2)
BB ($2.36)
UTG ($2.88)
MP ($1.92)
CO ($0.78)
Button ($2.66)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A
diamond.gif
, J
club.gif

UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, CO calls $0.02, Button calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.01, BB checks

Flop: ($0.10) 10
club.gif
, 9
diamond.gif
, Q
club.gif
(5 players)
Hero bets $0.07, BB calls $0.07, 3 folds

Turn: ($0.24) 7
heart.gif
(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.14, Hero calls $0.14

River: ($0.52) K
heart.gif
(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $2.13 (All-In), Hero calls $1.77 (All-In)

Total pot: $4.06 | Rake: $0.20

Results below:
Hero had A
diamond.gif
, J
club.gif
(straight, Ace high).
BB had 5
club.gif
, 7
club.gif
(one pair, sevens).
Outcome: Hero won $3.86
 
This look alright versus unknown?


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

BB ($2)
UTG ($0.89)
MP ($1.68)
CO ($2.79)
Hero (Button) ($2.13)
SB ($1.91)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q
heart.gif
, Q
club.gif

UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, CO calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.11, 1 fold, BB calls $0.09, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.27) 5
diamond.gif
, K
spade.gif
, A
club.gif
(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.27) Q
spade.gif
(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.20, BB calls $0.20

River: ($0.67) J
club.gif
(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.51, BB raises to $1.69 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $1.69 | Rake: $0.08

Results below:
BB didn't show
Outcome: BB won $1.61
 
I am not sure I would fold river there (some people bluff there with air, some do this with AJ... this is 2NL FFS), but anyway I dislike your river sizing.

Make it smaller to get more calls from weak hands and if he chkraise jams then you can fold.
 
LD1977 said:
I am not sure I would fold river there (some people bluff there with air, some do this with AJ... this is 2NL FFS), but anyway I dislike your river sizing.

Make it smaller to get more calls from weak hands and if he chkraise jams then you can fold.



thats the whole point of making my river sizing that big. If he goes over the top to an almost pot sized river bet on this runnout, the only thing for sure is that he is not joking around.

Gonna have to disagree with you here LD. if i make it 50%,i look weak and he can then turn more of his range into a bluff as i dont look like i am confident.

You see what i mean? Correct me if im wrong though. I'm just here to learn.
 
Yes you are wrong. I bet small vs fish if I am pretty sure they have some weaksauce hand and I get calls from A high upwards.

At certain bet sizing most fish start chkraise shoving instead of chkcalling. If the bet is small they pretty much never checkraise bluff, if it is almost their entire remaining stack they shove super wide. Medium sized bets like yours are the most difficult to decipher.
 
LD1977 said:
Yes you are wrong. I bet small vs fish if I am pretty sure they have some weaksauce hand and I get calls from A high upwards.

At certain bet sizing most fish start chkraise shoving instead of chkcalling. If the bet is small they pretty much never checkraise bluff, if it is almost their entire remaining stack they shove super wide. Medium sized bets like yours are the most difficult to decipher.


thnks LD. Your opinion is highly appreciated.
 
And for those of you who dont remember how 2NL is.

Here is a little taste of the magic. Have villain marked as " WORST PLAYER ON PLANET EARTH" , but i never expected him to be THIS bad.


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

BB ($2.03)
UTG ($1.10)
MP ($2.43)
CO ($2.13)
Hero (Button) ($2.03)
SB ($2.01)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 10
spade.gif
, 8
spade.gif

UTG raises to $0.04, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.04, 1 fold, BB calls $0.02

Flop: ($0.13) 6
club.gif
, 9
club.gif
, 7
diamond.gif
(3 players)
BB bets $0.08, UTG calls $0.08, Hero raises to $0.36, 1 fold, UTG raises to $1.06 (All-In), Hero calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.33) 2
heart.gif
(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($2.33) 7
heart.gif
(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $2.33 | Rake: $0.11

Results below:
Hero had 10
spade.gif
, 8
spade.gif
(straight, ten high).
UTG had 4
spade.gif
, 3
spade.gif
(one pair, sevens).
Outcome: Hero won $2.22

I'll have another one of what he's having please.:beer:
 
Just for the record, assume fish have zero bluffs is a good starting point
 
Actually they bluff rivers quite a bit but in a predictable manner. Flop/turn are never pure bluffs but they also don't have a clear idea about hand strengths.
 
Making poor value bets aren't the same as c/shoving river.
 
I dont catch a lot of sets but when i do, i make it rain.. Pocket 7's Iz DA BOMB. Its like 4 buy ins in 2 hands. SHEEEETTTTT😛


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

SB ($6.29)
BB ($1.27)
UTG ($1.12)
MP ($2.94)
Hero (CO) ($2.57)
Button ($1.48)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7
heart.gif
, 7
spade.gif

UTG calls $0.02, MP raises to $0.08, Hero calls $0.08, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.27) 2
spade.gif
, 7
diamond.gif
, 2
heart.gif
(3 players)
UTG checks, MP bets $0.14, Hero calls $0.14, UTG calls $0.14

Turn: ($0.69) 10
heart.gif
(3 players)
UTG checks, MP bets $0.32, Hero calls $0.32, UTG raises to $0.90 (All-In), MP calls $0.58, Hero raises to $2.04, MP raises to $2.72 (All-In), Hero calls $0.31 (All-In)

River: ($6.29) A
club.gif
(3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: $6.29 | Rake: $0.31

Results below:
UTG had 2
diamond.gif
, 5
diamond.gif
(three of a kind, twos).
MP had K
club.gif
, K
heart.gif
(two pair, Kings and twos).
Hero had 7
heart.gif
, 7
spade.gif
(full house, sevens over twos).
Outcome: Hero won $5.98




Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

BB ($2.06)
UTG ($1.52)
MP ($2.51)
CO ($2)
Button ($2.22)
Hero (SB) ($2.15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7
diamond.gif
, 7
club.gif

2 folds, CO raises to $0.06, Button calls $0.06, Hero calls $0.05, BB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.24) 5
heart.gif
, J
club.gif
, 7
spade.gif
(4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.02, CO calls $0.02, Button raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, BB raises to $2 (All-In), 1 fold, Button calls $1.70, Hero raises to $2.09 (All-In), Button calls $0.09

Turn: ($6.44) 8
diamond.gif
(3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($6.44) 2
heart.gif
(3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $6.44 | Rake: $0.32

Results below:
Button had Q
heart.gif
, Q
spade.gif
(one pair, Queens).
Hero had 7
diamond.gif
, 7
club.gif
(three of a kind, sevens).
BB had A
heart.gif
, J
heart.gif
(one pair, Jacks).
Outcome: Hero won $6.12
 
vinylspiros said:
Here is a hand that i like my river play. was planning on check/rasing river but he did all the work for me.

Surprisingly villains stats: 13/10/0.8

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

Hero (SB) ($2)
BB ($2.36)
UTG ($2.88)
MP ($1.92)
CO ($0.78)
Button ($2.66)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A
diamond.gif
, J
club.gif

UTG calls $0.02, 1 fold, CO calls $0.02, Button calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.01, BB checks

Flop: ($0.10) 10
club.gif
, 9
diamond.gif
, Q
club.gif
(5 players)
Hero bets $0.07, BB calls $0.07, 3 folds

Turn: ($0.24) 7
heart.gif
(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.14, Hero calls $0.14

River: ($0.52) K
heart.gif
(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $2.13 (All-In), Hero calls $1.77 (All-In)

Total pot: $4.06 | Rake: $0.20

Results below:
Hero had A
diamond.gif
, J
club.gif
(straight, Ace high).
BB had 5
club.gif
, 7
club.gif
(one pair, sevens).
Outcome: Hero won $3.86
Not sure Check/raise is the best line on river vs a 0.8 AF player, i think you get lucky here that he try to bluff his missed draw but a lot of times he could just check back and you will lose a ton of value.
 
Is he really calling worse than Jx if we donk though? And is he really ever checking back Jx? Only thing I don't like about this is preflop pretty easy iso I think.
 
Thread update:



So last week, after withdrawing the 400 $ from the tounrey win. I deposited 10$ and was left with 4$. Decided to play 2NL$ and try to turn it into whatever i could turn it into.

After playing 16.000 hands of Rush poker on fulltilt only 2NL, i managed to win 50$(25 buy ins).

Gonna post a graph of my 2NL hands this month(past 1 week really).


going to keep grinding untill the profit is around 80$ or untill the end of the month. after that will be trying some 5NL and see how that goes. But taking into consideration the fact that 2,5 and maybe even 10NL are almost the same level, i dont see how this can ever go wrong unless im very very unlucky.


Definitely running above EV, but playing very solid and the level of competition is LOLbad. If you never played on fulltilt, i suggest to give it a try as i find it to be alot easier than stars.




this is what i have so far. Crushing the micros . :cheers:


ScreenHunter 155 Feb 09 0141

ScreenHunter 154 Feb 09 0140
 
Nice vinyl you're crushing it! Maybe I should try some 10nl on tilt since you say it's softer
 
micromachine said:
Nice vinyl you're crushing it! Maybe I should try some 10nl on tilt since you say it's softer

Trust me, its softer. Been playing on stars for more than 3-4 years. First time i tried FT was like last week. They are way softer IMO.
 
Im a lucky guy. what can i say.


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

UTG ($2.26)
MP ($2)
CO ($0.65)
Hero (Button) ($2.09)
SB ($1.79)
BB ($3.64)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9
diamond.gif
, 9
spade.gif

2 folds, CO raises to $0.06, Hero calls $0.06, 1 fold, BB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.19) 8
spade.gif
, 9
heart.gif
, 8
diamond.gif
(3 players)
BB checks, CO bets $0.14, Hero calls $0.14, BB calls $0.14

Turn: ($0.61) 3
club.gif
(3 players)
BB checks, CO bets $0.45 (All-In), Hero calls $0.45, BB calls $0.45

River: ($1.96) 4
heart.gif
(3 players, 1 all-in)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.44 (All-In), BB calls $1.44

Total pot: $4.84 | Rake: $0.24

Results below:
Hero had 9
diamond.gif
, 9
spade.gif
(full house, nines over eights).
BB had 8
club.gif
, 5
club.gif
(three of a kind, eights).
CO had 8
heart.gif
, J
heart.gif
(three of a kind, eights).
Outcome: Hero won $4.60
 
Definitely spoke too soon about the being lucky bit. Im steaming right now.😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

SB ($2.41)
BB ($1.65)
UTG ($2.87)
MP ($1.18)
Hero (CO) ($2.04)
Button ($2.20)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J
spade.gif
, J
club.gif

UTG raises to $0.08, MP calls $0.08, Hero raises to $0.35, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.27, MP calls $0.27

Flop: ($1.08) 10
heart.gif
, 10
spade.gif
, 4
heart.gif
(3 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $1.69 (All-In), UTG calls $1.69, 1 fold( im jamming here because AK will easily call) even 99 will comfortably as i look like im FOS.

Turn: ($4.46) Q
diamond.gif
(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($4.46) A
diamond.gif
(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $4.46 | Rake: $0.22

Results below:
UTG had 5
heart.gif
, A
heart.gif
(two pair, Aces and tens).
Hero had J
spade.gif
, J
club.gif
(two pair, Jacks and tens).
Outcome: UTG won $4.24


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

UTG ($1.48)
MP ($2.79)
Hero (CO) ($2)
Button ($1.41)
SB ($1.42)
BB ($2.53)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A
heart.gif
, A
club.gif

UTG raises to $0.08, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.27, 3 folds, UTG calls $0.19

Flop: ($0.57) 6
diamond.gif
, 4
diamond.gif
, 9
club.gif
(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.57) J
heart.gif
(2 players)
UTG bets $0.02, Hero raises to $0.63, UTG raises to $1.21 (All-In), Hero calls $0.58

River: ($2.99) K
diamond.gif
(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $2.99 | Rake: $0.14

Results below:
UTG had K
spade.gif
, J
club.gif
(two pair, Kings and Jacks).
Hero had A
heart.gif
, A
club.gif
(one pair, Aces).
Outcome: UTG won $2.85




The two hands above happend almost back to back so i decided to slowplay these Kings cause i was on tilt and wanted to get smart.
as soon as this hand finished i switched it off. gonna go hit the gym and come back all new and improved to CRUSH tonights FTP CC freeroll.


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

UTG ($0.24)
MP ($3.40)
CO ($2.09)
Button ($2.12)
Hero (SB) ($2.12)
BB ($1.57)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K
diamond.gif
, K
club.gif

3 folds, Button raises to $0.06, Hero calls $0.05, BB raises to $0.22, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.16

Flop: ($0.50) 6
club.gif
, Q
club.gif
, 9
diamond.gif
(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.35, Hero calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.20) A
heart.gif
(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.45, Hero raises to $1.55 (All-In), BB calls $0.55 (All-In) ( DONT EVEN KNOW WTF im shoving here for) c-game alert!!!

River: ($3.20) 7
heart.gif
(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $3.20 | Rake: $0.16

Results below:
Hero had K
diamond.gif
, K
club.gif
(one pair, Kings).
BB had 10
diamond.gif
, A
diamond.gif
(one pair, Aces).
Outcome: BB won $3.04


lost 3 buy ins in a row which is very hard to do at 2NL,esp on a sunday! break time.
 
Poker Orifice said:
I can add a few if you'd like 😛

NOooooooooooooooo!!! anything but this ^


I actually Love canadians and think they are some of the nicest people in the world.

So can i stay at your place for a few weeks?😛 we can setup laptops side by side.😀😀😀
 
I have a note in thisguy that says: " Goes crazy if you miss C-bet in 3 bet pot)" NO JOKE!!


check out what happens. My calls are preety sickBAD but i just felt like something was gonna pop up like a straight or a backdoor.
Funny thing about this was my note.






Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

BB ($5.98)
UTG ($2.04)
MP ($2.09)
CO ($2)
Button ($2.02)
Hero (SB) ($2.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A
club.gif
, 5
club.gif

UTG calls $0.02, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.18) 2
diamond.gif
, J
heart.gif
, 3
club.gif
(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.18, Hero calls $0.18

Turn: ($0.54) 9
club.gif
(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.54, Hero calls $0.54

River: ($1.62) A
spade.gif
(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.24 (All-In), Hero calls $1.24

Total pot: $4.10 | Rake: $0.20

Results below:
Hero had A
club.gif
, 5
club.gif
(one pair, Aces).
UTG had Q
club.gif
, K
club.gif
(high card, Ace).
Outcome: Hero won $3.90
 
Couldnt have played this to look like a broken flush draw any more than this.

Crushing these 2NL fish.


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

UTG ($2.40)
MP ($1.14)
CO ($4.47)
Button ($0.91)
SB ($1.96)
Hero (BB) ($2.03)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6
club.gif
, 5
club.gif

2 folds, CO raises to $0.07, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.05

Flop: ($0.15) 3
club.gif
, K
club.gif
, 8
club.gif
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.15, CO raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.15

Turn: ($0.75) 6
diamond.gif
(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

River: ($1.15) Q
spade.gif
(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.22, Hero raises to $1.46 (All-In), CO calls $1.24

Total pot: $4.07 | Rake: $0.20

Results below:
Hero had 6
club.gif
, 5
club.gif
(flush, King high).
CO had K
heart.gif
, J
heart.gif
(one pair, Kings).
Outcome: Hero won $3.87
 
duggs said:
3bet flop man,

This.

Charge all his AcX hands here. He could have a ton of equity still and he can get there for cheap. I'd be looking to 3b/gii here. At these limits, Qc prolly isnt ever folding either, so id be looking to bet/3b, jam non-club turns.
 
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