duggs said:fold flop
vinylspiros said:Preflop: Hero is BB with 10, 8![]()
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UTG raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, 1 fold, Button raises to $0.90, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.80, UTG calls $0.60, MP calls $0.60
Flop: ($3.65) 5, 3
, 8
(4 players)![]()
Hero checks, UTG bets $2, 2 folds, Hero calls $2
Turn: ($7.65) A(2 players)![]()
Hero checks, UTG bets $5.57 (All-In), Hero ????? wants to call like a mofo but doesnt know if its correct.
opinions????
🙁DrazaFFT said:isn't 29% roughly 2:1??? and the odds are 2.37:1 so its marginally call
Figaroo2 said:🙁
I think you better go and find an online maths lesson.
100 to 100 = 1 to 1
50 into 100 =2 into 1
33.333333 into 100 = 3 to 1
25 into 100 = 4-1
here we had 29% so actually worse that 3-1
duggs said:probably still a fold. don't think we are in good shape
DrazaFFT said:Good to see youre back Vinyl!!!!!! Congrats on nice Tourney cash, make sure you post it into big wins thread, I know i would if i won it 😀
About a hand, why do we wanna involve in a squeezed pot with T8s and sill have two players to act after us?? UTG open look pretty strong if unknown, dunno about SQZ from BTN they are usually always strong at 2/5nlR at FTP so we flat and still risk UTG jam, i might be a nit and what is more likely i dont know how to play suited connectors and one gappers so i fold pre here...
as played flop is meh, we have questionable made hand and where i play donk flop can also mean draw so im kinda OK with call since we are closing the action. on turn we have FD+MP which seems like close to 30% equity and we do have odds to call so why not since we are already there, this is a good spot to pick some note on him if we dont have any already, im pretty confident that he have A here so its on you do you wanna gamble with FD+MP or not...
Figaroo2 said:OK so UTG opens and flats the 3 bet from the button and your call, if he had aces or Kings hes probably reraising neither hand wants 3-4 way action
So what does he have UTG otherwise....not QQ or JJ as that doesn't shove the turn with an ace on show.....so it pretty much has to be AK maybe AQ/Js.
Which of those hands is willing to lead out $2 on the flop,,, I can't see AK offsuit which is basically just A high leading out here on the flop with the button who raised still to act. So in my eyes it pretty much has to be AK and AQ/J suited spades giving him top pair with the nut flush draw. I can't see what else leads out!?
So plugging that into the equity calc gives you 29%... a little over 3-1.
Are you getting 3-1 to call the shove?.. call $5.57 to win $13.22 no odds of 2.37- 1 so no not even close, so its a negative EV spot.
=FOLD.
At the table in real time consider your outs; 9 diamonds plus an 8 or 10 might be good... 9+3+3 = 15 outs.... roughly 2% per out gives with a 30% chance of hitting your winning card (which pretty much matches the equity calc of course) also consider the 10s might be bad as it completes the flush draw.
So then back to the are you getting 3-1 on calling the shove.if what you are being asked to call doesn't fit into the pot total when you times the call amount by three then fold ....You want the pot to be over $16.71 (3x 5.57) to make this a call
DrazaFFT said:isn't 29% roughly 2:1??? and the odds are 2.37:1 so its marginally call
vinylspiros said:Seemed like a fold at first but i had to call 5.57 to win 13 so i thought he was giving me a phenomenally good price( i 4 table zoom so the math is kinda hard with 4 tables beeping.) Bet then i looked again and figured im not good enough to call but i wasnt exactly sure. [..]




Mr Sandbag said:Should we be cbetting that flop? I think we are getting called by a lot of hands here.