*****Vinyl's GonnaCrushDAmicros 6max thread******

[vinylspiros]

For one more time, i put myself in a pretty messy spot.

PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

Hero (Button) ($10)
SB ($12.04)
BB ($6.50)
UTG ($10.23)
MP ($5.84)
CO ($19.43)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 10

, Q

3 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, SB calls $0.20, BB calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.75) 2

, 7

, 6

(3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, 1 fold

Turn: ($1.15) 9

(2 players)
BB bets $0.20, Hero raises to $1.05, BB calls $0.85

River: ($3.25) 3

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.65, BB calls $1.65

Total pot: $6.55 | Rake: $0.29

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had 10

, Q

(high card, Queen).
BB had 7

, Q

(one pair, sevens).
Outcome: BB won $6.26

Guy bets small on flop and turn . I decide to go over the top on the turn cause his bets werent very convincing(although i was sure he had a small piece of that pie).


So i decide to raise turn because :

A- i pick up a few more outs

B- I think i might be able to get a fold

C- I wanna setup a nice river Jam.


Problem is,on river,i miss and chicken out. ( and make a sorry ass bet where with another 90 cents (2,50) i think i could have gotten a fold.


If im reraising this turn, i must be prepared to JAM river regardless of what hits right?


NOTE: VILLAIN IS SHORT STACKED.(AKA FISH)

NOTE: i cant be bothered to go find stats on villains so lets pretend they are fishy'ish.



EDIT EDIT: This kind of reminds me of the hand LD posted with the double gutter when he pots turn and jams river and gets the job done.(only that i didnt because i thought that the 1.65 would look like im looking for calls., so villain would fold)

 

[Jblocher1]

For one more time, i put myself in a pretty messy spot.

PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

Hero (Button) ($10)
SB ($12.04)
BB ($6.50)
UTG ($10.23)
MP ($5.84)
CO ($19.43)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 10

, Q

3 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, SB calls $0.20, BB calls $0.15

Flop: ($0.75) 2

, 7

, 6

(3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, 1 fold

Turn: ($1.15) 9

(2 players)
BB bets $0.20, Hero raises to $1.05, BB calls $0.85

River: ($3.25) 3

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.65, BB calls $1.65

Total pot: $6.55 | Rake: $0.29

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had 10

, Q

(high card, Queen).
BB had 7

, Q

(one pair, sevens).
Outcome: BB won $6.26

Guy bets small on flop and turn . I decide to go over the top on the turn cause his bets werent very convincing(although i was sure he had a small piece of that pie).


So i decide to raise turn because :

A- i pick up a few more outs

B- I think i might be able to get a fold

C- I wanna setup a nice river Jam.


Problem is,on river,i miss and chicken out. ( and make a sorry ass bet where with another 90 cents (2,50) i think i could have gotten a fold.


If im reraising this turn, i must be prepared to JAM river regardless of what hits right?


NOTE: VILLAIN IS SHORT STACKED.(AKA FISH)

NOTE: i cant be bothered to go find stats on villains so lets pretend they are fishy'ish.



EDIT EDIT: This kind of reminds me of the hand LD posted with the double gutter when he pots turn and jams river and gets the job done.(only that i didnt because i thought that the 1.65 would look like im looking for calls., so villain would fold)

we are getting good odds to just call turn, re raising puts us into disgusting spots. IMO just call turn fold river no need to get super crafty bluff shoving river here.

 

[vinylspiros]

Have this guy marked as "worst player ever" ,running 55/44/1 over 88 hands.

I dont know who played worse, me or him. Made me LOL. this is deffo post worthy. KAMIKAZE POKER>

PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Button ($4.85)
SB ($10.33)
Hero (BB) ($13.29)
UTG ($4.77)
MP ($10.23)
CO ($5.34)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q

, J

UTG raises to $0.20, 4 folds, Hero raises to $0.65, UTG calls $0.45

Flop: ($1.35) 5

, 2

, A

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.75, UTG calls $0.75

Turn: ($2.85) 8

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, UTG calls $1.50

River: ($5.85) Q

(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.87 (All-In), Hero calls $1.87

Total pot: $9.59 | Rake: $0.43

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had Q

, J

(one pair, Queens).
UTG had 7

, 6

(high card, Ace).
Outcome: Hero won $9.16

 

[vinylspiros]

Im gonna name this hand, milking the cow.


PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

Button ($12.73)
Hero (SB) ($13.73)
BB ($23.21)
UTG ($10.65)
MP ($11.24)
CO ($11.17)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8

, 8

1 fold, MP raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, MP calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.10) 8

, 10

, Q

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.10, MP calls $1.10

Turn: ($4.30) 10

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $2.70, Hero calls $2.70

River: ($9.70) 3

(2 players)
Hero bets $3.05, MP calls $3.05

Total pot: $15.80 | Rake: $0.71

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had 8

, 8

(full house, eights over tens).
MP didn't show
Outcome: Hero won $15.09

he had jacks:smokin:

 

[vinylspiros]

Mixed in some 25NL, this morning and played pretty lag. Then switched to 10NL and continued to play a bit lag since it was working for me. I guess im gonna call it a day. For a 10NL grinder ,100 bucks a day certainly keeps the doctor away.😀

 

[duggs]

Why were you playing 25nl?

 

[vinylspiros]

Why were you playing 25nl?

TBH, cause i was drunk. But i was lucky enough to run good and switch back before i do any damage to my so valuable (and very hard earned )roll. Sighs of relief.

 

[vinylspiros]

played like 200 hands of it max.( you could see it in the graph actually.Its the part where it stops skyrocketing.)

 

[vinylspiros]

A few examples of me playing reckless.


VILLAIN: 28/18/1.8
8.3 (3bet)


PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

Hero (Button) ($37.71)
SB ($48.25)
BB ($28.98)
UTG ($27.90)
MP ($25.86)
CO ($25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7

, 7

1 fold, MP raises to $0.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.75, 1 fold, BB raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.25

Flop: ($6.85) 10

, 3

, 2

(2 players)
BB bets $3.78, Hero calls $3.78

Turn: ($14.41) 4

(2 players)
BB bets $8.25, Hero raises to $30.93 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: $30.91 | Rake: $1.39

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero didn't show 7

, 7

.

PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

Button ($60.22)
SB ($25.35)
Hero (BB) ($36.72)
UTG ($68.65)
MP ($70.65)
CO ($22.14)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9

, 9

2 folds, CO raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.35, CO calls $1.60

Flop: ($4.80) 5

, 5

, 2

(2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, CO calls $3.50

Turn: ($11.80) 4

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $5.75, Hero calls $5.75

River: ($23.30) 7

(2 players)
Hero bets $25.12 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: $23.30 | Rake: $1.05

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero didn't show 9

, 9

(two pair, nines and fives).

I have a whole bunch of similar spots where i just go with it and it works out.( cause i was lucky)

 

[duggs]

Really not a fan of either of them tbh

 

[vinylspiros]

Really not a fan of either of them tbh

Thanks for the honesty. I dont play like this. It's just what i have from those 185 hands. Thanks for the honest opinion and for all the help. Much appreciated.

Although i dont think the 77 one is all that bad.

 

[LD1977]

You would be shocked to know how many players don't fold to these lines.

 

[vinylspiros]

Its pretty hard to describe why i sometimes make calls like this one and alot of the time,they are right. This one is versus an unknown.

Note : when everyone folds and i flat. The second the flop comes out he INSTAPOTS. He did it so fast its kinda like he didnt even look at it or think about it for a second. So i kinda put him on Air only because of that.

ever happen you you guys to get tells based on how fast or slow they bet?

PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

Button ($10.44)
SB ($7.32)
BB ($6.05)
UTG ($10)
Hero (MP) ($10)
CO ($26.38)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 7

, 7

1 fold, Hero raises to $0.35, 1 fold, Button raises to $1.20, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.85

Flop: ($2.55) 3

, 3

, 6

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $2.40, Hero raises to $8.80 (All-In), Button calls $6.40

Turn: ($20.15) 2

(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($20.15) 4

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20.15 | Rake: $0.91

Results below:

Spoiler

Button had 6

, 8

(two pair, sixes and threes).
Hero had 7

, 7

(two pair, sevens and threes).
Outcome: Hero won $19.24

 

[Blobweird123]

Its pretty hard to describe why i sometimes make calls like this one and alot of the time,they are right. This one is versus an unknown.

Note : when everyone folds and i flat. The second the flop comes out he INSTAPOTS. He did it so fast its kinda like he didnt even look at it or think about it for a second. So i kinda put him on Air only because of that.

ever happen you you guys to get tells based on how fast or slow they bet?

PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

Button ($10.44)
SB ($7.32)
BB ($6.05)
UTG ($10)
Hero (MP) ($10)
CO ($26.38)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 7

, 7

1 fold, Hero raises to $0.35, 1 fold, Button raises to $1.20, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.85

Flop: ($2.55) 3

, 3

, 6

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $2.40, Hero raises to $8.80 (All-In), Button calls $6.40

Turn: ($20.15) 2

(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($20.15) 4

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20.15 | Rake: $0.91

Results below:

Spoiler

Button had 6

, 8

(two pair, sixes and threes).
Hero had 7

, 7

(two pair, sevens and threes).
Outcome: Hero won $19.24

That's about the only timing tell you can use online is insta-anything. If they tank, could be that they spilled coffee on their desk, wife is yelling at him etc. With that said, this hand is pretty spewy if you ask me. Like, we went over this the last time. If he is FOS and you strongly believe that, why on earth are we jamming??????

 

[vinylspiros]

That's about the only timing tell you can use online is insta-anything. If they tank, could be that they spilled coffee on their desk, wife is yelling at him etc. With that said, this hand is pretty spewy if you ask me. Like, we went over this the last time. If he is FOS and you strongly believe that, why on earth are we jamming??????

Jamming because i think i could get called by AK suited. Plus i dont wanna see an ace myself and get scarred. I feel im ahead now and want him to get it in now with his draws . And also there is a small chance that he might be folding some worst .88-jj type hands.( in case hes not bluffing which i highly doubted anyways.)

that make any sense? i mean is it legit reasoning?

 

[Blobweird123]

Jamming because i think i could get called by AK suited. Plus i dont wanna see an ace myself and get scarred. I feel im ahead now and want him to get it in now with his draws . And also there is a small chance that he might be folding some worst .88-jj type hands.( in case hes not bluffing which i highly doubted anyways.)

that make any sense? i mean is it legit reasoning?

That's fine if you think he has draws. But in your OP you said he's fos. Big difference between fos and draws/88-JJ lol.

 

[vinylspiros]

That's fine if you think he has draws. But in your OP you said he's fos. Big difference between fos and draws/88-JJ lol.

^^^^^^
Yea but even if he has draws/88-jj,by betting so hard on flop he turns them into FOS.lol.



thnks for posting blob. happy new year as well.😀

 

[gtothec]

personally im kinda with vinyl here.
i think jamming is ok as i kinda get the feeling by the insta pot as lot of the time the villain has ak and some flush draws and at 10nl aggro fish tend to be very reluctant to give up these kinda hands when on the btn.
however it turns out he was being a massive donk so i think the shove has served two purposes
1) get the money in against draws etc
2) you can take the info to make some brilliant notes on him which will pay dividends over and over

🙂

 

[duggs]

PokerStars - $0.10 Ante $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

SB: 116 BB (VPIP: 41.61, PFR: 27.52, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, Hands: 152)
Hero (BB): 280.4 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB, 2 players post ante of 0.2 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.9 BB) Hero has Kh Jd
SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop : (6.4 BB, 2 players) Qd 2c 7s
Hero checks, SB checks

Turn : (6.4 BB, 2 players) Td
Hero bets 5 BB, SB calls 5 BB

River : (16.4 BB, 2 players) 6d
Hero bets 10.6 BB, SB raises to 21.2 BB, Hero raises to 52 BB, fold

 

[vinylspiros]

PokerStars - $0.10 Ante $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

SB: 116 BB (VPIP: 41.61, PFR: 27.52, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, Hands: 152)
Hero (BB): 280.4 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB, 2 players post ante of 0.2 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.9 BB) Hero has Kh Jd
SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop : (6.4 BB, 2 players) Qd 2c 7s
Hero checks, SB checks

Turn : (6.4 BB, 2 players) Td
Hero bets 5 BB, SB calls 5 BB

River : (16.4 BB, 2 players) 6d
Hero bets 10.6 BB, SB raises to 21.2 BB, Hero raises to 52 BB, fold

I like it. stone cold killa.

 

[vinylspiros]

started off at 5NL, went to 10NL, and then unlocked a few bonuses. so i felt comfortable enough with my game to sporadically take some shots at 25NL.

These are the 25NL hands ive played since the beginning of this thread. (december 12th last month untill today)(in around 20 days)

These hands are just when i did some shot taking at the limit. am still at 10NL till roll is well above 500.


Look at red line. LOL. SAMPLE is small of course but i feel like the limit will be easy to beat. Not easy easy but definitely beatable. to be honest i think people at 25NL tend to play tighter. and bluffs work better.

 

[vinylspiros]

How much am i supposed to bet on river to get paid? Do i check/raise? bet like 50%?

Whats the best play here. Villain is unknown(prolly a donk/flushchaser type)



PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

Button ($10.68)
Hero (SB) ($10.50)
BB ($12)
UTG ($10)
MP ($10)
CO ($9.58)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7

, 5

UTG raises to $0.20, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.15, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.50) Q

, 6

, 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.30, Hero raises to $0.85, UTG calls $0.55

Turn: ($2.20) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.65, UTG calls $1.65

River: ($5.50) 9

(2 players)
Hero bets $7.80 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: $5.50 | Rake: $0.25

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero didn't show 7

, 5

(straight, nine high).

 

[vinylspiros]

PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Button ($9.85)
SB ($34.47)
BB ($7.80)
UTG ($20.88)
Hero (MP) ($10.22)
CO ($8.48)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A

, K

1 fold, Hero raises to $0.35, 3 folds, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.75) J

, 2

, 8

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.35, BB calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.45) Q

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.70, BB calls $0.70

River: ($2.85) 9

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3, 1 fold

Total pot: $2.85 | Rake: $0.13

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero didn't show A

, K

(flush, Ace high).

take alook at my sorry ass river bet. another spot where im losing money. I figured,if hes calling flop and turn,he might have a set and will be unable to put me on a flopped flush. Also straight come into the picture by river so i i tried to maximize value and didnt get paid. should i have chekc/raised? bet 50% on river?

Or was i just unlucky he didnt have much?

 

[duggs]

1. hate the call pre, hate flop sizing, needs to be much bigger that makes turn bigger and river a pub

2. bigger flop bigger turn, river don't over bet

 

[vinylspiros]

I check turn cause im scarred of 9T. Whats a good play here?

HATE THE WAY THIS HAND PLAYED OUT. but when i check turn i gues i have nothing to do than check/call river right? or fold?


PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

Button ($15.02)
Hero (SB) ($10)
BB ($12.25)
UTG ($4.55)
MP ($3.18)
CO ($10.10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7

, 8

UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, 1 fold, Button raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20, 1 fold, MP calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.30) 7

, 8

, 2

(4 players)
Hero bets $0.95, BB calls $0.95, 1 fold, Button calls $0.95

Turn: ($4.15) J

(3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, Button checks

River: ($4.15) 9

(3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, Button bets $1, Hero ?