vinylspiros said:
honestly not really, small sample but v me you missed a ton of value and bluffed when your range was too thin and just punished yourself by having a really wide range on all pre flop/flop situations. e.g. when you 3b/c 79s pre and then potted flop and turn with the flopped straight
I decided to play one single tourney tonight to cool off from all the cash.
Take a look at this sick hand. villain is a reg running 25/15(smallish sample)
Reason im raising so wide is because everyone is literally folding everything.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 5.5 Tournament, 100/200 Blinds 25 Ante (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php
SB (t3,991)
BB (t19,110)
UTG (t1,920)
UTG+1 (t10,259)
MP1 (t7,641)
Hero (MP2) (t15,900)
MP3 (t9,748)
CO (t1,585)
Button (t6,110)
Hero's M: 30.29
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 2
, J
3 folds, Hero raises to t400, 4 folds, BB calls t200
Flop: (t1,125) 10
, Q
, A
(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t600, BB calls t600
Turn: (t2,325) A
(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t1,200, BB raises to t3,400, Hero calls t2,200
River: (t9,125) 5
(2 players)
BB bets t5,522, Hero folds
Total pot: t9,125
Results below:
is this bad?
Take a look at this sick hand. villain is a reg running 25/15(smallish sample)
Reason im raising so wide is because everyone is literally folding everything.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 5.5 Tournament, 100/200 Blinds 25 Ante (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php
SB (t3,991)
BB (t19,110)
UTG (t1,920)
UTG+1 (t10,259)
MP1 (t7,641)
Hero (MP2) (t15,900)
MP3 (t9,748)
CO (t1,585)
Button (t6,110)
Hero's M: 30.29
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 2
3 folds, Hero raises to t400, 4 folds, BB calls t200
Flop: (t1,125) 10
BB checks, Hero bets t600, BB calls t600
Turn: (t2,325) A
BB checks, Hero bets t1,200, BB raises to t3,400, Hero calls t2,200
River: (t9,125) 5
BB bets t5,522, Hero folds
Total pot: t9,125
Results below:
BB didn't show
is this bad?
sample size and 3bet % matters here
id assume TT+ all 3bet here. AQ+ def does, AT is like the only boat we face on turn. its also pretty hard for him to have K9dd or worse. so tbh his range is super Ax heavy so i just 3bet turn and plan to gii
i call river as played.
id assume TT+ all 3bet here. AQ+ def does, AT is like the only boat we face on turn. its also pretty hard for him to have K9dd or worse. so tbh his range is super Ax heavy so i just 3bet turn and plan to gii
i call river as played.
duggs said:
LOL, yea im not as bad as everyone might think. I do put people on ranges. I just havent seen this guy really showing alot of aggression so far and this line hes taking is super value"ish".(and nuttish)
Still in it by the way, 33rd out of 400 left. 3k+ to first . wish me luck man. I got all this cash game skill in my head. Im gonna try and take it down. Hopefully i wont run into any crazy situation. lol.
duggs said:
Just saw this post. Yea your right. I dont know what gets into me when i flop the nuts. I get this feeling i wanna build the pot up as soon as possible , so that cards dint come down that will kill my action. Thing is at the same time i dont allow you to continue your story and at the same time im waving a flag telling everyone i have the nuts. Want to be working on my,bet sizing and lines in order to be able to not lose A TON of value in alot o spots.
VILLAINS STATS: (VPIP/PFR/AF) 26/16/3.5
9.1 3BET
UTG, the initial raiser was a total unknown.
Managed to get call here. Do we like this line?
PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com
Button ($14.81)
SB ($26.63)
BB ($9.36)
UTG ($53.07)
Hero (MP) ($29.57)
CO ($13)
Preflop: Hero is MP with 9
, 6
UTG raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.60, 2 folds, SB calls $2.50, BB calls $2.35, UTG calls $1.85
Flop: ($10.40) Q
, 2
, 4
(4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($10.40) 3
(4 players)
SB bets $5, 2 folds, Hero raises to $24.90, SB calls $19.03 (All-In)
River: ($58.46) 4
(2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $58.46 | Rake: $2
Results below:
9.1 3BET
UTG, the initial raiser was a total unknown.
Managed to get call here. Do we like this line?
PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com
Button ($14.81)
SB ($26.63)
BB ($9.36)
UTG ($53.07)
Hero (MP) ($29.57)
CO ($13)
Preflop: Hero is MP with 9
UTG raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.60, 2 folds, SB calls $2.50, BB calls $2.35, UTG calls $1.85
Flop: ($10.40) Q
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($10.40) 3
SB bets $5, 2 folds, Hero raises to $24.90, SB calls $19.03 (All-In)
River: ($58.46) 4
Total pot: $58.46 | Rake: $2
Results below:
SB had K
, K
(two pair, Kings and fours).
Hero had 9
, 6
(flush, Queen high).
Outcome: Hero won $56.46
Hero had 9
Outcome: Hero won $56.46
I TRULY AM THE WORST PLAYER ON THIS FORUM. (another miracle moment with suited one gappers)....AND THE WORST PLAY POSSIBLE ON MY BEHALF.:icon_blac
VILLAINS STAS 24/15/1 AF: is 1 and IM FLATTING 4BETS OUT OF POSITION WITH 68SUITED!!!
PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/
Button ($26.98)
Hero (SB) ($35.47)
BB ($28.80)
UTG ($32.97)
MP ($52.38)
CO ($30.79)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 8
, 6
2 folds, CO raises to $0.62, Button calls $0.62, Hero raises to $0.99, 1 fold, CO raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.01
Flop: ($6.87) 5
, 9
, 8
(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $4.20, Hero calls $4.20
Turn: ($15.27) J
(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $8, Hero calls $8
River: ($31.27) 7
(2 players)
Hero bets $20.27 (All-In), CO calls $15.59 (All-In)
Total pot: $62.45 | Rake: $2
Results below:
VILLAINS STAS 24/15/1 AF: is 1 and IM FLATTING 4BETS OUT OF POSITION WITH 68SUITED!!!
PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/
Button ($26.98)
Hero (SB) ($35.47)
BB ($28.80)
UTG ($32.97)
MP ($52.38)
CO ($30.79)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 8
2 folds, CO raises to $0.62, Button calls $0.62, Hero raises to $0.99, 1 fold, CO raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.01
Flop: ($6.87) 5
Hero checks, CO bets $4.20, Hero calls $4.20
Turn: ($15.27) J
Hero checks, CO bets $8, Hero calls $8
River: ($31.27) 7
Hero bets $20.27 (All-In), CO calls $15.59 (All-In)
Total pot: $62.45 | Rake: $2
Results below:
Hero had 8
, 6
(straight, nine high).
CO had K
, K
(one pair, Kings).
Outcome: Hero won $60.45
CO had K
Outcome: Hero won $60.45
And another wonderful small suited connector moment. Aces dont pay off this good. then you people say zoom is full of NITS. Yea right......
Villans stas 18/15/1.3
PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com
Hero (Button) ($28.94)
SB ($25.70)
BB ($51.01)
UTG ($29.54)
MP ($69.87)
CO ($37.90)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 5
, 4
UTG raises to $0.75, MP calls $0.75, CO calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, 2 folds
Flop: ($3.35) 5
, 4
, 9
(4 players)
UTG bets $2, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.60, UTG calls $2.60
Turn: ($12.55) 6
(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $23.59 (All-In), UTG calls $23.59
River: ($59.73) 5
(2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $59.73 | Rake: $2
Results below:
Villans stas 18/15/1.3
PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com
Hero (Button) ($28.94)
SB ($25.70)
BB ($51.01)
UTG ($29.54)
MP ($69.87)
CO ($37.90)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 5
UTG raises to $0.75, MP calls $0.75, CO calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, 2 folds
Flop: ($3.35) 5
UTG bets $2, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.60, UTG calls $2.60
Turn: ($12.55) 6
UTG checks, Hero bets $23.59 (All-In), UTG calls $23.59
River: ($59.73) 5
Total pot: $59.73 | Rake: $2
Results below:
Hero had 5
, 4
(full house, fives over fours).
UTG had K
, 9
(two pair, nines and fives).
Outcome: Hero won $57.73
UTG had K
Outcome: Hero won $57.73
96s hand - should be a fold pre imo, I think I like shoving the turn though, looks like you're bluffing with air or AsX, and you don't want to call and risk another spade appearing on the river or the board pairing
86s hand - wtf are you doing 3betting to 99c lol! Calling the flop and turn is pretty terrible imo 🙂
86s hand - wtf are you doing 3betting to 99c lol! Calling the flop and turn is pretty terrible imo 🙂
micromachine said:
Dude, in that 86 hand ,i have no idea what the hell i was thinking. when i looked over it in my database,i was in shock. I think after a certain time period and especially if im running kinda good, i make some awkward plays to confuse villains and mix it up. Horrible stuff really.
the 96 hand is not so bad. I mean When you snap 3bet a 3X UTG raise, your pretty much polarizing your range to the absolute nuts alot of the time. So by him flatting he kinda opens the door for me to think he has AK,JJ or even worse. I mean ,it is 6 max and UTG opens are not as tight as alot of people make them to be in a perfect world.
I could take it down alot of the time with a standard Cbet with any Aces or kings on the flop since im IP. Or i can check behind with a 9 or a 6 to improve on later streets . I think position is Key here. And if i dont connect at all and feel like i cant rep, im just gonna let it go.
So when you do hit something of a middle card board, and esp if you hit it hard, it is kind of hard for him to put you on that board,cause you 3bet them pre from UTG+1, so you can get easier paid off.
thats my theory.
I could take it down alot of the time with a standard Cbet with any Aces or kings on the flop since im IP. Or i can check behind with a 9 or a 6 to improve on later streets . I think position is Key here. And if i dont connect at all and feel like i cant rep, im just gonna let it go.
So when you do hit something of a middle card board, and esp if you hit it hard, it is kind of hard for him to put you on that board,cause you 3bet them pre from UTG+1, so you can get easier paid off.
thats my theory.
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Whats the best turn play here? We are both 400BB deep.
VILLAINS STATS 44/38/16
PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/
Button ($116.99)
SB ($72.33)
Hero (BB) ($112.33)
UTG ($22.09)
MP ($27.34)
CO ($25.34)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 8
, 4
3 folds, Button raises to $0.62, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.37
Flop: ($1.34) Q
, 3
, 2
(2 players)
Hero bets $1.30, Button raises to $4.40, Hero calls $3.10
Turn: ($10.14) 9
(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $5.80, Hero ?
VILLAINS STATS 44/38/16
PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/
Button ($116.99)
SB ($72.33)
Hero (BB) ($112.33)
UTG ($22.09)
MP ($27.34)
CO ($25.34)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 8
3 folds, Button raises to $0.62, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.37
Flop: ($1.34) Q
Hero bets $1.30, Button raises to $4.40, Hero calls $3.10
Turn: ($10.14) 9
Hero checks, Button bets $5.80, Hero ?
A month has passed since i started this thread , this is what i got.
Tilted after 60K hands and shot taking at 25NL and managed to spew it all off in one session about a week ago. Roll was at 420$ at its peak. (started with 90$)
Currently BUSTO.😀
Guess ill have to reload and get back to the grind sometime this week.
I managed to put in more than 70k hands in like 23 days. then one day came the TILT. It was like someone cast a magic spell on me and i couldn't stop spewing.
was up around 195$ and am now down 177$. ( Had unlocked more than 130$ in fpp's and 50dollar stellar rewards during these hands on top of the 195$ profit).
such is the life of a grinder.While it was fun posting the great hands throughout this thread and the cool plays, time has come to post the outcome of the first month.
Think im gonna be reloading for around 300$ and get straight back to 10NL by the end of this week/beginning of next week.
Thnks for posting here everyone. Cash threads are priceless..!😛
Tilted after 60K hands and shot taking at 25NL and managed to spew it all off in one session about a week ago. Roll was at 420$ at its peak. (started with 90$)
Currently BUSTO.😀
Guess ill have to reload and get back to the grind sometime this week.
I managed to put in more than 70k hands in like 23 days. then one day came the TILT. It was like someone cast a magic spell on me and i couldn't stop spewing.
was up around 195$ and am now down 177$. ( Had unlocked more than 130$ in fpp's and 50dollar stellar rewards during these hands on top of the 195$ profit).
such is the life of a grinder.While it was fun posting the great hands throughout this thread and the cool plays, time has come to post the outcome of the first month.
Think im gonna be reloading for around 300$ and get straight back to 10NL by the end of this week/beginning of next week.
Thnks for posting here everyone. Cash threads are priceless..!😛
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