*****Vinyl's GonnaCrushDAmicros 6max thread******

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I'm just folding pre from MP lol.... Flop seems decent.... I probably lead out for like 20c as opposed to full pot but that's just personal preference. Turn is a b/f as much as you may not want to. His min re raise is practically never a bluff, and he's just calling with an ace. He's not raising with worse than your two pair. Your going to see lots of AJ at showdown, and some poorly played straights.

If this isn't ideal to you.... You can take your line though.... I don't think it's bad. I just think that we can b/f the turn, his sizing is just really retarded so I don't blame you for the call... River looks good
 
micromachine said:
^^ Easy fold

5nl already? 😉

What are you BRM plans this time around?


bankroll plans. Hmm, I said i was gonna start at 2NL and i tried that yesterday, I gave up on it. Too boring(a.k.a impossible to play). Im doing 5 NL. I started with 70$ yesterday. Roll is now at 100$.

Im gonna be unlocking two 10$ bonuses within the next 3k hands so basically roll is at 120$. ( 24 buy ins for 5NL, more than enough for me)


I managed to put in 7200 hands in less than 24 hours and grind is looking alright.

Lemme show you what i got so far. Not gonna touch 10NL untill roll is at 250$.

Im 4 tabling zoom.


ScreenHunter 127 Jan 16 1849

ScreenHunter 128 Jan 16 1849
 
Jblocher1 said:
I'm just folding pre from MP lol.... Flop seems decent.... I probably lead out for like 20c as opposed to full pot but that's just personal preference. Turn is a b/f as much as you may not want to. His min re raise is practically never a bluff, and he's just calling with an ace. He's not raising with worse than your two pair. Your going to see lots of AJ at showdown, and some poorly played straights.

If this isn't ideal to you.... You can take your line though.... I don't think it's bad. I just think that we can b/f the turn, his sizing is just really retarded so I don't blame you for the call... River looks good

My hand is too strrong to bet fold turn to his min raise. river is a clear fold. Was hoping i could spike an 8 or something or that he might bet smaller or give up.

thnks for feedback though. good stuff.


duggs said:
Looks fine, sample size tho

think sample was like 70 or smthng. He looked kinda tight. dont think im ever good here versus this type of villain. Its a sigh fold.🙂
 
yup, but if you include the stats its worth including the sample size it came from, i play it exactly the same tbh
 
PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

Button ($6.91)
SB ($3.02)
Hero (BB) ($2.09)
UTG ($0.29)
MP ($9.26)
CO ($1.24)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q
diamond.gif
, Q
club.gif

UTG raises to $0.04, 1 fold, CO calls $0.04, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.17, UTG calls $0.13, CO calls $0.13

Flop: ($0.52) 5
spade.gif
, 5
club.gif
, 6
diamond.gif
(3 players)
Hero bets $0.39, UTG calls $0.12 (All-In), CO calls $0.39

Turn: ($1.42) 10
spade.gif
(3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero bets $1.37, CO calls $0.68 (All-In)

River: ($2.78) A
club.gif
(3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $2.78 | Rake: $0.10

Results below:
Hero had Q
diamond.gif
, Q
club.gif
(two pair, Queens and fives).
UTG had Q
spade.gif
, Q
heart.gif
(two pair, Queens and fives).
CO had 6
heart.gif
, 5
heart.gif
(full house, fives over sixes).
Outcome: CO won $2.68

Ahhahahaha, this for sure was me, i am CO. I call pre .04 with 56s
you raise to .17 and the other dude calls you, meaning i have 1:3 on a call plus massive implied odds. so due to the short stack i think my call pre is actually all right. You disagree?
 
You don't have good enough implied odds to call the 3bet, UTG has 15bb so basically doesn't count and you only have 60bb. If you, Vinyl and UTG all had 100bb calling is borderline OK.
 
both of the calls pre flop are horrible given your stack size. why are you short?
 
hmmm fair enough, short as i dont have auto reload on, when playing on mobile, and obviously had lost in the last few hands. Against there exact hands i have 25% pre...
 
Yea the QQ hand was against Jackaoliver. Horrible call man. If you keep making calls like that your gonna lose big in the long run. sure ur gonna spike a 665 flop once a blue moon but the chips your gonna bleed, and the calls with second or third best hand that your gonna make post flop are never gonna make up for your total losses.
 
hot n cold equity doesn't matter when you rarely flop more than 30% equity. and on some of those good flops for you they have redraws/kill our action
 
SO TILTED RIGHT NOW

HAVE THIS GUY MARKED AS A STATION.

PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

Button ($6.33)
Hero (SB) ($5.14)
BB ($6.76)
UTG ($4.80)
MP ($10.21)
CO ($6.31)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K
spade.gif
, K
heart.gif

2 folds, CO calls $0.05, Button raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.55, 1 fold, CO calls $0.50, Button calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.70) 9
heart.gif
, 3
spade.gif
, 4
club.gif
(3 players)
Hero bets $1.26, CO calls $1.26, Button calls $1.26

Turn: ($5.48) 10
heart.gif
(3 players)
Hero bets $3.33 (All-In), CO calls $3.33, 1 fold

River: ($12.14) 5
spade.gif
(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $12.14 | Rake: $0.50

Results below:
Hero had K
spade.gif
, K
heart.gif
(one pair, Kings).
CO had 10
club.gif
, 5
club.gif
(two pair, tens and fives).
Outcome: CO won $11.64
 
vinylspiros said:
Yea the QQ hand was against Jackaoliver. Horrible call man. If you keep making calls like that your gonna lose big in the long run. sure ur gonna spike a 665 flop once a blue moon but the chips your gonna bleed, and the calls with second or third best hand that your gonna make post flop are never gonna make up for your total losses.

Fair enough i will take this on board, cheers for the advice.
 
duggs said:
annoying but it really shouldn't bother you


ALREADY OVER IT. gOT SOME SUPER STATIONS AT5nl RIGHT NOW THAT ARE MAKING Some serious donations to my roll by not being able to fold 2nd ,3rd best hands. the notes ive made are paying dividends.

Momentary tilt gone. back to the grind.

This 4 tabling zoom putting in 1k hands a hour is such a good way to go. I get to play solid without getting bored and the fpp's are adding up pretty quick, even though im playing the super micros.


thnks duggs for psychological support. lol. :shakehand
 
vinylspiros said:
ALREADY OVER IT. gOT SOME SUPER STATIONS AT5nl RIGHT NOW THAT ARE MAKING Some serious donations to my roll by not being able to fold 2nd ,3rd best hands. the notes ive made are paying dividends.

Momentary tilt gone. back to the grind.

This 4 tabling zoom putting in 1k hands a hour is such a good way to go. I get to play solid without getting bored and the fpp's are adding up pretty quick, even though im playing the super micros.


thnks duggs for psychological support. lol. :shakehand

Just being 4 tabling zoom myself, do you not find you end up just clicking buttons in the end..? although i do see the attraction and it seems to stop any bluffs which micro's do not allow for...
 
jackaoliver said:
Just being 4 tabling zoom myself, do you not find you end up just clicking buttons in the end..? although i do see the attraction and it seems to stop any bluffs which micro's do not allow for...



Naw man, im 100% focused. trying to make ZERO mistakes. If i 3 bet kk and theres an ace on the flop and villain makes a tiny bet, i snap fold. that kinda stuff.

Check this hand out.

this dude helped me get over the KK earlier suckout.

PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

Hero (Button) ($5.02)
SB ($1.38)
BB ($3.22)
UTG ($8.76)
MP ($14.99)
CO ($12.22)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J
diamond.gif
, J
club.gif

3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 1 fold, BB raises to $3.22 (All-In), Hero calls $3.07

Flop: ($6.46) 3
heart.gif
, 9
diamond.gif
, A
spade.gif
(2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($6.46) 7
club.gif
(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($6.46) J
spade.gif
(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $6.46 | Rake: $0.27

Results below:
Hero had J
diamond.gif
, J
club.gif
(three of a kind, Jacks).
BB had 6
spade.gif
, 4
diamond.gif
(high card, Ace).
Outcome: Hero won $6.19

LMFAOOOOOO. and of course i had this guy marked as, and i quote " WORST PLAYER EVER"



make notes man. I dont think there is one player who plays zoom at 5NL regularly that i dont have notes on.
 
vinylspiros said:
Naw man, im 100% focused. trying to make ZERO mistakes. If i 3 bet kk and theres an ace on the flop and villain makes a tiny bet, i snap fold. that kinda stuff.

Check this hand out.

this dude helped me get over the KK earlier suckout.

PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

Hero (Button) ($5.02)
SB ($1.38)
BB ($3.22)
UTG ($8.76)
MP ($14.99)
CO ($12.22)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J
diamond.gif
, J
club.gif

3 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 1 fold, BB raises to $3.22 (All-In), Hero calls $3.07

Flop: ($6.46) 3
heart.gif
, 9
diamond.gif
, A
spade.gif
(2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($6.46) 7
club.gif
(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($6.46) J
spade.gif
(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $6.46 | Rake: $0.27

Results below:
Hero had J
diamond.gif
, J
club.gif
(three of a kind, Jacks).
BB had 6
spade.gif
, 4
diamond.gif
(high card, Ace).
Outcome: Hero won $6.19

LMFAOOOOOO. and of course i had this guy marked as, and i quote " WORST PLAYER EVER"



make notes man. I dont think there is one player who plays zoom at 5NL regularly that i dont have notes on.

Lol. Nh
 
Going back a bit in your thread, I don't like the calls of early position raises in the SB with connectors like 75 78 if no one else has called . I strongly suspect this is a leak. Play them only if you can get in cheap by just making up the blind. The main disadvantage is that you are oop and even if you hit your hand its difficult to get paid as you discovered.
 
Figaroo2 said:
Going back a bit in your thread, I don't like the calls of early position raises in the SB with connectors like 75 78 if no one else has called . I strongly suspect this is a leak. Play them only if you can get in cheap by just making up the blind. The main disadvantage is that you are oop and even if you hit your hand its difficult to get paid as you discovered.


+1. very good point your making here. during those hands i was running like god and was playing alot looser( and worse) than i usually do. your advice is solid. thank you.
 
TAKE A LOOK AT THESE 8 hands. PLEASE!! these hands all happened within 200 hands.


AM I PLAYING SHIT, OR IS THIS REALLY A DOOMSWITCH?

DOWN 6 BUY INS MAYBE MORE.

Please go through these hands if you have time. and tell me with honesty where i screwed up...Cause i think these are pretty standard plays. Am i on tilt and dont realise it?


didnt include villains stats although they are important. Lets try and look at these hands in a more default point of view.


PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

Button ($2.50)
SB ($5)
BB ($7.87)
Hero (UTG) ($5)
MP ($8.23)
CO ($2.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A
diamond.gif
, K
spade.gif

Hero raises to $0.15, 4 folds, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.32) 2
club.gif
, 4
club.gif
, A
heart.gif
(2 players)
BB bets $0.23, Hero calls $0.23

Turn: ($0.78) 7
spade.gif
(2 players)
BB bets $0.65, Hero raises to $4.62 (All-In), BB calls $3.97

River: ($10.02) 4
spade.gif
(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $10.02 | Rake: $0.42

Results below:
BB had 5
diamond.gif
, 3
diamond.gif
(straight, five high).
Hero had A
diamond.gif
, K
spade.gif
(two pair, Aces and fours).
Outcome: BB won $9.60


PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

Button ($9.24)
SB ($4.88)
BB ($6.92)
UTG ($8.42)
MP ($10.33)
Hero (CO) ($5)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K
heart.gif
, A
club.gif

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, Button raises to $0.45, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.97) 8
club.gif
, Q
diamond.gif
, A
diamond.gif
(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $0.65, Hero raises to $2.38, Button raises to $8.79 (All-In), Hero calls $2.17 (All-In)

Turn: ($10.07) 10
club.gif
(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($10.07) 9
heart.gif
(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $10.07 | Rake: $0.42

Results below:
Button had Q
spade.gif
, A
heart.gif
(two pair, Aces and Queens).
Hero had K
heart.gif
, A
club.gif
(one pair, Aces).
Outcome: Button won $9.65


PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Button ($5.26)
Hero (SB) ($7.11)
BB ($5)
UTG ($4.53)
MP ($11.97)
CO ($5.87)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A
spade.gif
, 3
spade.gif

4 folds, Hero raises to $0.12, BB raises to $0.36, Hero calls $0.24

Flop: ($0.72) 4
heart.gif
, A
heart.gif
, 3
heart.gif
(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.65, Hero raises to $6.75 (All-In), BB calls $3.99 (All-In)

Turn: ($10) 2
diamond.gif
(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($10) 5
heart.gif
(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $10 | Rake: $0.42

Results below:
Hero had A
spade.gif
, 3
spade.gif
(straight, five high).
BB had J
heart.gif
, K
spade.gif
(flush, Ace high).
Outcome: BB won $9.58


PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

Button ($5)
SB ($4.62)
BB ($5.53)
UTG ($9.82)
MP ($2.85)
Hero (CO) ($5)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q
club.gif
, Q
heart.gif

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, 1 fold, SB calls $0.13, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.35) 4
club.gif
, 8
diamond.gif
, J
diamond.gif
(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.26, SB calls $0.26

Turn: ($0.87) 3
club.gif
(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.82, SB calls $0.82

River: ($2.51) 4
spade.gif
(2 players)
SB bets $2.40, Hero calls $2.40

Total pot: $7.31 | Rake: $0.30

Results below:
SB had A
diamond.gif
, 4
heart.gif
(three of a kind, fours).
Hero didn't show Q
club.gif
, Q
heart.gif
(two pair, Queens and fours).
Outcome: SB won $7.01



PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Hero (Button) ($5.08)
SB ($21.31)
BB ($1.98)
UTG ($4.18)
MP ($3.57)
CO ($7.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K
spade.gif
, Q
club.gif

UTG raises to $0.10, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.10, SB calls $0.08, BB calls $0.05

Flop: ($0.40) 3
diamond.gif
, Q
spade.gif
, 4
diamond.gif
(4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.28, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.28

Turn: ($0.96) K
diamond.gif
(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.70, UTG calls $0.70

River: ($2.36) 8
heart.gif
(2 players)
UTG bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

Total pot: $5.36 | Rake: $0.22

Results below:
Hero didn't show K
spade.gif
, Q
club.gif
(two pair, Kings and Queens).
UTG had 3
spade.gif
, 3
heart.gif
(three of a kind, threes).
Outcome: UTG won $5.14



PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Button ($8.26)
SB ($5)
Hero (BB) ($5.96)
UTG ($6.25)
MP ($7.19)
CO ($6.69)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A
club.gif
, A
diamond.gif

UTG raises to $0.15, 4 folds, Hero raises to $0.47, UTG calls $0.32

Flop: ($0.96) 6
diamond.gif
, 8
heart.gif
, J
club.gif
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.70, UTG calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.36) 9
diamond.gif
(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

River: ($2.36) Q
spade.gif
(2 players)
Hero bets $2.22, UTG raises to $5.08 (All-In), Hero calls $2.57 (All-In)

Total pot: $11.94 | Rake: $0.50

Results below:
Hero had A
club.gif
, A
diamond.gif
(one pair, Aces).
UTG had K
heart.gif
, 10
heart.gif
(straight, King high).
Outcome: UTG won $11.44


PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

Button ($5)
Hero (SB) ($9.93)
BB ($5.56)
UTG ($11.30)
MP ($3.09)
CO ($7.81)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 10
diamond.gif
, 10
club.gif

4 folds, Hero raises to $0.15, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.30) 10
spade.gif
, A
club.gif
, 9
club.gif
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.22, BB calls $0.22

Turn: ($0.74) 6
diamond.gif
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.54, BB raises to $1.40, Hero raises to $9.56 (All-In), BB calls $3.79 (All-In)

River: ($11.12) 4
club.gif
(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $11.12 | Rake: $0.46

Results below:
Hero had 10
diamond.gif
, 10
club.gif
(three of a kind, tens).
BB had 7
club.gif
, 8
diamond.gif
(straight, ten high).
Outcome: BB won $10.66


PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

Button ($5.14)
SB ($6.42)
BB ($5.15)
Hero (UTG) ($5.41)
MP ($6.61)
CO ($6.11)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J
club.gif
, J
heart.gif

Hero raises to $0.15, 2 folds, Button raises to $0.52, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.37

Flop: ($1.11) 9
diamond.gif
, K
diamond.gif
, J
spade.gif
(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $0.60, Hero raises to $4.89 (All-In), Button calls $4.02 (All-In)

Turn: ($10.35) 4
spade.gif
(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($10.35) A
spade.gif
(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $10.35 | Rake: $0.43

Results below:
Button had K
club.gif
, K
heart.gif
(three of a kind, Kings).
Hero had J
club.gif
, J
heart.gif
(three of a kind, Jacks).
Outcome: Button won $9.92
 
Briefly looked at all 8, this is not detailed hand analysis 🙂

1 and 2 - Think you stacked off too easily with TPTK here.

3 - Ul, bs call by him, think you get more value by not shoving and betting 1/2 pot on each street though

4 - Fold river

5 - Pretty annoying, I'd call river too I think

6 - Why didn't you bet the turn. c/f the river or at least b/f but smaller like 1/2 pot so you're not committed.

7 and 8 - coolers, ul
 
micromachine said:
Briefly looked at all 8, this is not detailed hand analysis 🙂

1 and 2 - Think you stacked off too easily with TPTK here.

3 - Ul, bs call by him, think you get more value by not shoving and betting 1/2 pot on each street though

4 - Fold river

5 - Pretty annoying, I'd call river too I think

6 - Why didn't you bet the turn. c/f the river or at least b/f but smaller like 1/2 pot so you're not committed.

7 and 8 - coolers, ul



thnks MM. Your solid bro. Yea themixture of me playing a bit too aggro with TPTK along with the coolers have me on tilt. I rarely tilt. I mean i can get mad if i lose a hand but back to abck loses is hard to deal with.

Anyways, stacked a few dudes since i posted the hands above and minimized the losses to 4 buy ins which is better. Am back on track.

What you grinding MM? after the tourney win, you still in the micros?


EDIT: thanks so much for finding time to look through the gazillion hands above. much appreciated.
 
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