*****Vinyl's GonnaCrushDAmicros 6max thread******

[IPlay]

I really feel like this is a weak laydown. I get 3bet pre, i flat and call huge bets on flop and turn. Even if he does have an overpair he must be scarred of me having a set or a 2 pair hand here(mostly set though since there arent many 2pair hands that i would be callin a 3bet with pre. Also when the FD doesnt make it on the river, all overpairs are checking here to make unimproved FD's to jam.

Im pretty sure he has a FD or AK here and i really feel like i should have called in this spot cause if he really does have an over pair,most players are gonne just check call this river just in case we have a set and also to induce. (problem is i dont know much about this player and he has QQ some of the time here so i just decided to let it go)

thoughts?

PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Hero (SB) ($51.50)
BB ($93.62)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4

, 4

Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $4, Hero calls $2.50

Flop: ($8) 3

, 9

, 7

(2 players)
BB bets $5.50, Hero calls $5.50

Turn: ($19) Q

(2 players)
BB bets $13.32, Hero calls $13.32

River: ($45.64) 2

(2 players)
BB bets $44.68, Hero folds

Total pot: $45.64 | Rake: $0.50

Results below:

Spoiler

BB didn't show

Makes me cringe to see you put in half your stack with pocket 4s and then you fold on what is literally the blankest river in the world.

I also have to question what advice can people give you when it comes to heads up play without stats/reads of any kind?

 

[vinylspiros]

SO SICK


PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

SB ($85.07)
Hero (BB) ($51.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8

, 6

SB raises to $1, Hero raises to $3.25, SB raises to $10.50, Hero calls $7.25

Flop: ($21) 4

, 5

, J

(2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $8, Hero calls $8

Turn: ($37) 4

(2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks

River: ($37) 9

(2 players)
Hero bets $14, 1 fold

Total pot: $37 | Rake: $0.50

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero didn't show 8

, 6

(one pair, fours).

 

[vinylspiros]

Makes me cringe to see you put in half your stack with pocket 4s and then you fold on what is literally the blankest river in the world.

I also have to question what advice can people give you when it comes to heads up play without stats/reads of any kind?

yea. river was blank, dont like my play there.

no advice necessary, i mean like i dont have the time to post exact stats and stuff. if anyone wants to make like a random comment ,its more than welcome.

Dont have any challenge going on or anything. just killing time posting some of the funner spots for anyone who might be interested in seeing them.


Its not like im trying to teach anyone anything or question someones opinion. its just a flow of opinions going on .

 

[IPlay]

Right, I got ya man. How are you liking the zoom heads up?

 

[Aces2w1n]

Position ftw

 

[vinylspiros]

Ok . Bad news. Lost 6 buy ins at heads up. I think that half were coolers and the rest were unlucky.


Take a look and feel free to comment if you think my plays sucked.


This one was the most tilting of them all (preflop my 3bet sizing is bad but whatever)

PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

SB ($164.80)
Hero (BB) ($50.22)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 10

, Q

SB raises to $1.24, Hero raises to $3.72, SB calls $2.48

Flop: ($7.44) Q

, 10

, 3

(2 players)
Hero bets $6.18, SB calls $6.18

Turn: ($19.80) 7

(2 players)
Hero bets $16.79, SB raises to $154.90 (All-In), Hero calls $23.53 (All-In)

River: ($100.44) 7

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $100.44 | Rake: $0.50

Results below:

Spoiler

SB had Q

, 7

(full house, sevens over Queens).
Hero had 10

, Q

(two pair, Queens and tens).
Outcome: SB won $99.94

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Hero (SB) ($66.31)
BB ($52.16)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3

, 5

Hero raises to $1, BB raises to $3, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6) 4

, 3

, 3

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks (i have to check here to get paid off on later streets)

Turn: ($6) 10

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4.98, BB raises to $9.96, Hero calls $4.98 ( his raise here looks kinda bluffy considering he didnt bet his FD on the flop in a 3way pot so i still feel like im good.im putting him on AT with the nut club maybe. he could have a made flush here but i cant fold)

River: ($25.92) J

(2 players)
BB bets $1.50, Hero raises to $53.35 (All-In), BB calls $37.70 (All-In) (My jam here is bad in hindsight but it really looks like hes looking for a cheap showdown with Tx or maybe JT or whatever so i decided to jam and get paid by worse. My play here is terrible and i deserve getting stacked in this spot . made a note and learned a valuable lesson that cost me 50 $)
Total pot: $104.32 | Rake: $0.50

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had 3

, 5

(three of a kind, threes).
BB had 10

, 10

(full house, tens over threes).
Outcome: BB won $103.82

Nothing i could have done here the way the hand plays out. Just a cooler.

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Hero (SB) ($55.46)
BB ($130.77)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J

, 9

Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $4, Hero calls $2.50

Flop: ($8) 2

, 10

, 4

(2 players)
BB bets $4.50, Hero calls $4.50

Turn: ($17) 3

(2 players)
BB bets $11, Hero calls $11

River: ($39) 6

(2 players)
BB bets $111.27 (All-In), Hero calls $35.96 (All-In)

Total pot: $110.92 | Rake: $0.50

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had J

, 9

(flush, Jack high).
BB had A

, 8

(flush, Ace high).
Outcome: BB won $110.42

I dont mind my call here. I dont know what hes playing this way except KK and AA and i thought if thats what he has so be it and just called down anyway. was on tilt i think.


PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Hero (SB) ($79.44)
BB ($55.79)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K

, A

Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $4.50, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($9) 3

, 2

, K

(2 players)
BB bets $4.98, Hero calls $4.98

Turn: ($18.96) 4

(2 players)
BB bets $10.70, Hero calls $10.70

River: ($40.36) Q

(2 players)
BB bets $35.61 (All-In), Hero calls $35.61

Total pot: $111.58 | Rake: $0.50

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had K

, A

(one pair, Kings).
BB had 2

, K

(two pair, Kings and twos).
Outcome: BB won $111.08

This hand played itself out i guess


PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

SB ($57.04)
Hero (BB) ($55.94)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A

, 3

SB raises to $1, Hero raises to $4, SB calls $3

Flop: ($8) 9

, 8

, 7

(2 players)
Hero bets $5, SB raises to $16.50, Hero raises to $51.94 (All-In), SB calls $35.44

Turn: ($111.88) 4

(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($111.88) 6

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $111.88 | Rake: $0.50

Results below:

Spoiler

SB had J

, J

(one pair, Jacks).
Hero had A

, 3

(high card, Ace).
Outcome: SB won $111.38

So all these hands led to this:

 

[Figaroo2]

Hell session. This is variance biting your butt
They are mostly coolers, but 35 as you identify there is an obvious flush and a paired board so just call and laugh at his dumb river bet.
AK I'm trying to find a fold on the end with my don't get stacked with one pair mentality especially when he's happy to put you all in despite your previous calls, not saying I could have got away from it though. A min raise on the flop or turn would have clarified how strong he was and you get away saving yourself 25bb by not having to call such a big river. John A would tell you to minraise the turn and fold on the end if he bets. The turn costs you an extra $10 but you don't call the $30+ on the end as unless he has a monster they check it to you on the end and you take the cheaper showdown.

A3 his raise to 16 is virtually committing & reduces our fold equity. Awkward stack sizes it would be a nitty disciplined fold so I can see why you shoved. You will get some payment back against this guy another time when he calls you down lighter than he should due to your action image.

 

[vinylspiros]

Gonna play 50NL HU this month nonstop. Got more than 50 BI's so im comfortable with it.

So far so good. Gonna be posting daily graphs. I really feel like i can crush it if i dont go crazy and dont hit massive donswing.

 

[vinylspiros]

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Hero (SB) ($54)
BB ($32.14)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 10

, Q

Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $5, Hero calls $3.50

Flop: ($10) 8

, 5

, J

(2 players)
BB bets $4.78, Hero calls $4.78

Turn: ($19.56) K

(2 players)
BB bets $7.95, Hero calls $7.95

River: ($35.46) J

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $17.13, 1 fold

Total pot: $35.46 | Rake: $0.50

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero didn't show 10

, Q

(one pair, Jacks).

 

[Figaroo2]

Nh. Ah the reverse float and as you didn't 4bet you are more likely to have K and J than aces. It all fits to you having a J and you made the river bet look like value. Good story.

 

[vinylspiros]

Nh. Ah the reverse float and as you didn't 4bet you are more likely to have K and J than aces. It all fits to you having a J and you made the river bet look like value. Good story.

exactly. i got a sick hand that played out . gonna post it now. pretty big pot. might be biggest ive played so far.

 

[vinylspiros]

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Hero (SB) ($81.17)
BB ($101.82)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3

, 8

Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $5, Hero calls $3.50

Flop: ($10) 6

, 3

, 8

(2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero raises to $76.17 (All-In), BB calls $71.17

Turn: ($162.34) 3

(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($162.34) 5

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $162.34 | Rake: $0.50

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had 3

, 8

(full house, threes over eights).
BB had K

, K

(two pair, Kings and threes).
Outcome: Hero won $161.84

 

[vinylspiros]

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Hero (SB) ($61.18)
BB ($21.94)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

, 4

Hero raises to $1, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2) 3

, J

, 2

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($2) 6

(2 players)
BB bets $1.43, Hero calls $1.43

River: ($4.86) 5

(2 players)
BB bets $3.48, Hero raises to $58.75 (All-In), BB calls $16.03 (All-In)

Total pot: $43.88 | Rake: $0.50

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had A

, 4

(straight, six high).
BB had 5

, J

(two pair, Jacks and fives).
Outcome: Hero won $43.38

 

[Figaroo2]

The old 83 suited, boating up on the turn ....you dirty .......
Nice shove difficult decision for him with KK. Especially if he knows you've been playing LAG.
A4 he gave you every chance to get there. Unlucky for him to hit 2P. .
Spiros crushing. Great to see it.

 

[vinylspiros]

thanks FIG.

OUCH. still like my play here.

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Hero (SB) ($77.21)
BB ($43.47)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6

, 9

Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $4.50, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($9) 2

, 7

, 8

(2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($19) 3

(2 players)
BB bets $9, Hero calls $9

River: ($37) 4

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $31.75, BB calls $24.97 (All-In)

Total pot: $86.94 | Rake: $0.50

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had 6

, 9

(high card, nine).
BB had A

, Q

(high card, Ace).
Outcome: BB won $86.44

 

[vinylspiros]

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Hero (SB) ($69.52)
BB ($100.67)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

, A

Hero raises to $1.25, BB raises to $4.50, Hero raises to $13.50, BB raises to $100.67 (All-In), Hero calls $56.02 (All-In)

Flop: ($139.04) 2

, J

, 2

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($139.04) 7

(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($139.04) 6

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $139.04 | Rake: $0.50

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had A

, A

(two pair, Aces and twos).
BB had J

, J

(full house, Jacks over twos).
Outcome: BB won $138.54

 

[Matt Vaughan]

96s, really don't like your line - we rep absolutely nothing. Not sure how tough the 50nl HU player pool is, but I can only assume that people are actually doing some basic level of hand-reading.

Most people would never expect you to ship 8x or even 99-TT on the end for value, so our perceived value range is theoretically only like 2 pair and sets, and realistically on this board we'd almost certainly be raising those on an earlier street, so suddenly our perceived value range is actually nothing.

 

[arty220]

thanks FIG.

OUCH. still like my play here.

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Hero (SB) ($77.21)
BB ($43.47)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6

, 9

Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $4.50, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($9) 2

, 7

, 8

(2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($19) 3

(2 players)
BB bets $9, Hero calls $9

River: ($37) 4

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $31.75, BB calls $24.97 (All-In)

Total pot: $86.94 | Rake: $0.50

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had 6

, 9

(high card, nine).
BB had A

, Q

(high card, Ace).
Outcome: BB won $86.44

Hero call 🙂 ! He was hitting only air. It seems to me that the betsize was too high. If he believed in your straight, he would not have call $15-20$

 

[vinylspiros]

96s, really don't like your line - we rep absolutely nothing. Not sure how tough the 50nl HU player pool is, but I can only assume that people are actually doing some basic level of hand-reading.

Most people would never expect you to ship 8x or even 99-TT on the end for value, so our perceived value range is theoretically only like 2 pair and sets, and realistically on this board we'd almost certainly be raising those on an earlier street, so suddenly our perceived value range is actually nothing.

i guess i have some sets/ 56/ two pair(78 )/in my 3bet flatting range and i would play those esactly the same for the most part.

His call is pretty loose(could be cause of my image though), A-high with all the action is pretty sick for a call down on this board.

But yea, i have either a mega strong hand OR air with the line i took so congrats to the dude for his call.


good points scourge. thats basically exactly how i saw it , felt like my flat to his 3bet pre would allow me to jam a ton of runnouts on the river.

Would you reccomend me raising the flop? like clicking it back or do you think my line is fine except for my river bet? Would you just check back river when he obviously isnt mega strong ,hence the inability to fire the third barrel?

 

[vinylspiros]

I put in another 500 hands since this morning.

The funny thing is although you would expect to play more hands per hour, HU i think has less hands per hour. Especially since my VPIP is super high and im playing almost everything.


The AA cooler and the unsuccessful bluff with 69 i posted earlier were pretty hardcore and have messed up my winrate but thats the way the game is i guess.


I really feel like im doing alright and am playing my A++ game right now but im getting coolered and running way below EV.

Not that it even matters since my sample is tiny but im just sharing some thoughts.


So far it looks like this:





Here are a few spots that were fun. Im gonna keep it up and may the force be with me.

Havent had this much fun in a long time.


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Hero (SB) ($56.47)
BB ($45.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J

, J

Hero raises to $1, BB raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, BB calls $3

Flop: ($9) 2

, 7

, 10

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.32, BB calls $2.32

Turn: ($13.64) 9

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $7.22, BB calls $7.22

River: ($28.08) 8

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $7.44, BB calls $7.44

Total pot: $42.96 | Rake: $0.50

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had J

, J

(flush, Jack high).
BB didn't show
Outcome: Hero won $42.46

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SB ($65.60)
Hero (BB) ($53.16)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5

, 7

SB raises to $1.22, Hero raises to $3.75, SB calls $2.53

Flop: ($7.50) 3

, 10

, 3

(2 players)
Hero bets $3.93, SB calls $3.93

Turn: ($15.36) 3

(2 players)
Hero bets $12.92, 1 fold

Total pot: $15.36 | Rake: $0.50

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero didn't show 5

, 7

.

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Hero (SB) ($60.34)
BB ($33.64)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9

, Q

Hero raises to $1, BB raises to $1.50, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($3) 7

, 6

, 4

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.48, BB calls $2.48

Turn: ($7.96) 7

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($7.96) 5

(2 players)
BB bets $3.80, Hero raises to $14, 1 fold

Total pot: $15.56 | Rake: $0.50

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero didn't show 9

, Q

(one pair, sevens).

 

[vinylspiros]

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SB ($50.25)
Hero (BB) ($58.16)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

, K

SB raises to $1.25, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.50) 5

, 4

, 6

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.31, SB raises to $4.31, Hero raises to $11.75, 1 fold

Total pot: $11.12 | Rake: $0.50

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero didn't show J

, K

.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

I'm usually raising flop or turn, but it's not terrible to call call and give up river if we think we're getting paid on the river. If there's implied odds, calling is better. If not, raising earlier is better.

 

[vinylspiros]

At hand 680 i took a bad beat as you can see in the graph where the orange line goes up and the green goes down and i went MENTAL. and i mean mental. went on mega tilt and dropped 12 buy ins or something like that.

When i was down to -380$ or so i thought, dude pull your $hit together and stop tilting and i tried my best to climb back.


Finally after 2k hands i managed to get back to where i started.


Although, i am not winning yet, i learned some valuable lessons.

1=tilt is ugly

2=variance in these games is brutal
​

Going to keep on going untill the end of the month, or as long as i can, and see how it goes.


This is what i got so far.

 

[vinylspiros]

all i have to do now is keep doing what ive been doing for the past 700 hands or so, and hopefully i will end the month with fireworks. But theres a longgg wayyy to go.

 

[vinylspiros]

villain is a good lag reg.
This hand was pretty sick. River call was a sighcall,but since i took this line i had to call.

PokerStars Zoom No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

SB ($50.25)
Hero (BB) ($62.87)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

, 10

SB raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($3) 2

, J

, 9

(2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $1.90, Hero raises to $5.56, SB calls $3.66

Turn: ($14.12) 8

(2 players)
Hero bets $11.84, SB calls $11.84

River: ($37.80) 6

(2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $31.35 (All-In), Hero calls $31.35

Total pot: $100.50 | Rake: $0.50

Results below:

Spoiler

SB had K

, Q

(high card, King).
Hero had J

, 10

(one pair, Jacks).
Outcome: Hero won $100