This isn’t just a game it’s a system

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  • #27
Brigistul said:
But it does mean you should know where you are: inside a system that studies you more closely than you study it.
Well, I'm not sure if you're including live games/casinos, because if you are, I wouldn't be sure that Algorithms can be in play, especially in live poker.
 
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I play for fun. slots distract me and allow me to entertain myself. Therefore, I think that they serve their purpose for me, and I am willing to pay for that. I don't care if the system studies my behavioural patterns, it simply doesn't matter to me.
 
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Yes, of course, it's all a system. And those of us who approach the game responsibly, attentively and consistently have a chance in this system to be players who make money.
 
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True!
Poker itself is a symtem which will reap rewards only in the long-run few years down the line!
 
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If it weren't for these systems, strong players could earn hundreds of thousands of dollars in poker, while the fish would be sitting on pennies.
 
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  • #32
Brigistul said:
You make me laugh! That’s what lack of education looks like… Judging someone you don’t know and making completely false claims! I’ve probably played poker for money longer than you’ve been alive! So it wouldn’t hurt to learn a thing or two from people with experience!:ROFLMAO:

The irony in this statement is amazing.
1.) you don't even play poker for real money. I checked your accounts.... you've played 1,000's of public freerolls and this is what you base your opinion about the fairness of play from.

I don't know you, but I know what you write on here about the game of poker AND I've witnessed your play in some CC games (you play with a VP$IP of 55%), you call a 3Bet OOP on 40bb effective stacks with 53o and you call down with Bottom pair on an AJ3 flop.

I'd be willing to wager that I've played poker longer than you have (if it even has any relevance aside from you 'making completely false claims'). And it wouldn't surprise me if I was older than you as well. But I'm sure you could learn how to play poker from an 18yr. old with only a month or two in the game.
 
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  • #33
You have described the usual marketing tactics used by most companies around the world :)
In reality, every manufacturer or service provider hunts for customers, studies them and does everything possible to ensure that customers spend as much money as possible :)
 
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  • #34
Yes, of course, any business is a system. But you can determine your place in this system yourself if you have a sufficiently disciplined and proactive attitude.
 
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Ruslan L said:
What does the system think of me if, for example, I play freerolls, use daily spins and don't spend my own money on the game? ...... Does the system consider me a parasite? :)
“The system knows there are many who play like you, but it takes advantage of the others who are the majority and hopes for a boom
 
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Brigistul said:
It’s not about those who play freerolls. They’re just starting out, still exploring. It’s about those who deposit serious money, those who play for real stakes, with real hopes.
And yes many of them started with freerolls too. Then the system caught them. It offered small wins, carefully crafted illusions, and made them believe the “big prize” was near.
Like slots. Like roulette. Same manipulation, different stage. It’s not just a game ! it’s psychology. A software that learns how to keep you close, how to feed your hope, and how to make you pay for it.
I often see you playing freerolls. Are you just starting out too?
Or has the system already sucked you in?
Players vary. Some can control themselves, while others cannot. Which category of players do you belong to?
 
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Te văd des jucând freeroll-uri. Abia începi și tu?
Sau te-ai lăsat în urmă cu sistemul?
Jucătorii variază. Unii se pot controla singuri, în timp ce alții nu. Cărei categorii de jucători îi aparții?
Did you not understand that I am trying to bring some clarification on this addiction? and make our players aware that no matter if no freerol, money or tokens the system will get you where it wants and get as much money out of your pocket as possible! I play everything I told you above and I feel good no matter how much I lose or win! The amounts lost now are nothing compared to how much we played 20-25 years ago...
 
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  • #38
Brigistul said:
You make me laugh! That’s what lack of education looks like… Judging someone you don’t know and making completely false claims! I’ve probably played poker for money longer than you’ve been alive! So it wouldn’t hurt to learn a thing or two from people with experience!:ROFLMAO:
He can only go by what you post.

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  • #39
najisami said:
But there's no comparison there. CC is a poker forum, not a poker site.
If it’s not a poker site then stop playing poker and just talk, exchange opinions, etc!It is correct to say that it is a forum and a poker site!
 
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Brigistul said:
If it’s not a poker site then stop playing poker and just talk, exchange opinions, etc!It is correct to say that it is a forum and a poker site!
Most of the people you ask would say that a poker site provides poker games within their sites, as CardsChat is a poker forum, it does not provide poker games.

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Brigistul said:
If it’s not a poker site then stop playing poker and just talk, exchange opinions, etc!It is correct to say that it is a forum and a poker site!
I'm not sure I can agree with you there. CC is a poker forum that has affiliations with some poker sites.
 
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Brigistul said:
If it’s not a poker site then stop playing poker and just talk, exchange opinions, etc!It is correct to say that it is a forum and a poker site!
I'm not sure I can agree with you there. CC is a poker forum that has affiliations with some poker sites.
 
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najisami said:
I'm not sure I can agree with you there. CC is a poker forum that has affiliations with some poker sites.
That’s better! It is a site affiliated with other poker sites!
 
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That’s better! It is a site affiliated with other poker sites!
Almost :ROFLMAO:!!
Let's say it's a poker forum affiliated with some poker sites :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:.
 
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  • #45
Yeah . Gor sure I feel what you say is true . It's not random at all . It all depends on the algorithm. It analyses your betting behavior and decisions and it gives or it doesn't give you a lot of win moments . It knows how to manipulate your betting desire , it can drive you on tilt . That's a big negative gor online slots .
 
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For players who simply enjoy gambling, it is not so important how this business works internally. The main thing is that it works reliably and safely :)
 
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If I held that view, I wouldn't be able to play. Maybe I'm too naive, trusting!
 
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Casinos, bookmakers, and lotteries will always be in profit in the long run — it’s just math. That’s why only a very small number of people actually make money, while most players end up losing their bankroll over the distance.
 
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The algorithms are not that personalized - they are general.
 
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Debi said:
The algorithms are not that personalized - they are general.
Perfect! Only that behind them there may be conditions unknown to the players, which formed the basis of the programming required by the management of that site (deposits, withdrawals, account and account balance, etc.)
 
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