A poker video - Nonsense I tell you, COMPLETE NONSENSE

BenjiHustle · Jul 18, 2014

Played Poker Since:
SERIOUSLY, since September 2013

'Nuff said.

punctual · Jul 18, 2014

HooDooKoo said:
Yep, I'm the clueless one. Sorry.

Let us know when you figure out how to fly, or shape-shift, or break free of your physical bonds and become immortal.

Be well.

-HooDooKoo

Funny how you liken being as good as Phil Ivey to flying, shape-shifting, and immortality....damn, do people really think Phil Ivey is a GOD?

This is disturbing

Jblocher1 · Jul 18, 2014

punctual said:
There are no caps on your capabilities......people who take up poker professionally believe they can do it. If you don't have that belief then you are setting yourself up for failure, IMHO

I like to think in terms of the most likely possible outcome. Isn't that what poker payers do? We think..... "Am I ahead of his range?" In terms of my life equity..... I'm not likely to make it as a pro, therefore I don't like to consider it as a possibility. It's a bad mind set to think we can be whatever we want

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BenjiHustle · Jul 18, 2014

Jblocher1 said:
I like to think in terms of the most likely possible outcome. Isn't that what poker payers do? We think..... "Am I ahead of his range?" In terms of my life equity..... I'm not likely to make it as a pro, therefore I don't like to consider it as a possibility. It's a bad mind set to think we can be whatever we want

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Living life +EV, as it may come to be called.

This guy really does like to gii bad with a prayer and belief in his heart. He's not just saying it.

HooDooKoo · Jul 18, 2014

punctual said:
Funny how you liken being as good as Phil Ivey to flying, shape-shifting, and immortality....damn, do people really think Phil Ivey is a GOD?

This is disturbing

I didn't say conclusively that you can't be as good at poker as Phil Ivey is --- although I now have plenty of anecdotal evidence that suggests it's impossible. That's not, however, relevant to my comment above.

You are the only person in this thread espousing that anything is possible if you believe it enough and work hard enough at it. The fact that anything is possible in your world means that flying (unaided by tools/machines), shape-shifting, and immortality are possible --- if you believe in them enough and work hard enough to develop those skills. Yet no one in the history of mankind has managed to do any of those things, even though people have clearly tried to do each of them. If those things are possible in your world, how do you explain why no one has ever accomplished any of those feats?

-HooDooKoo

BenjiHustle · Jul 18, 2014

HooDooKoo said:
I didn't say conclusively that you can't be as good at poker as Phil Ivey is --- although I now have plenty of anecdotal evidence that suggests it's impossible. That's not, however, relevant to my comment above.

You are the only person in this thread espousing that anything is possible if you believe it enough and work hard enough at it. The fact that anything is possible in your world means that flying (unaided by tools/machines), shape-shifting, and immortality are possible --- if you believe in them enough and work hard enough to develop those skills. Yet no one in the history of mankind has managed to do any of those things, even though people have clearly tried to do each of them. If those things are possible in your world, how do you explain why no one has ever accomplished any of those feats?

-HooDooKoo

EXPLAIN!

duggs · Jul 18, 2014

BenjiHustle said:
You're too smart, bro. I can't wait till I make a video that you deem worth watching. I'll bring a notebook. Not sure if I ever said it, but good luck with your doctorate. Altogether, I feel like punctual has assigned a sort of metaphysical power to poker, whether within his deity willing his wins along or, as it sounds, a more Eastern approach involving chi, ki, qi, karma, so on and so forth, basically suggesting that a positive mindset that believes in the ability to do all things is the key to being able to do all things. I do believe that a certain level of ignorance can become powerful, even allow people to defy gravity and other scientific truths to some degree. I also realize that the level of ignorance that is required is actually unattainable in a developed country. This would be like people who never know that you are supposed to be unable to jump over a house being able to actually jump over a house. In poker for this individual then, this would equate to never knowing that you're not supposed to be able to beat Phil Ivey leading you to beating Phil Ivey (or other insanely skilled professional, don't get too technical. Obvious hypotheticals.) God doesn't exist.

Wow thanks man, really flattered but you are giving me way too much credit and I'm only halfway though my masters and I'm not anything special in terms of poker.

Def agree with the rest

EvertonGirl · Jul 18, 2014

God does exist, but I don't preach so lets get off that topic

I am with the majority here that what ED was saying was totally legit, I don't think he is saying everyone is a bad player but the simple fact that the majority good players will only be good at the reg level and will never be as good as an elite player like "Phil Ivey" I can only wish to be as good as him!! My mentality will never get to Phil's IQ. The video should be seen as a positive thing not a negative thing.

BenjiHustle · Jul 18, 2014

duggs said:
Wow thanks man, really flattered but you are giving me way too much credit and I'm only halfway though my masters and I'm not anything special in terms of poker.

Def agree with the rest

LOL "only"

The grant's pretty much the biggest obstacle, as I understand it. Wouldn't know. Wonder what I could've done with an advanced degree in philosophy (lol). It was a good time though.

Anyway, we digress in the lull. After checking the s/n and realizing we have a pretty extensive history, I have nothing left to add. I don't need to play against him to prove anything, because I already have, and knowing that he plays on Bovada more than he plays on the site where I can look him up only suggests that I must have crushed him when I crushed that entire site up to and through 600nl.

punctual, you do not want me at your table. I have the data that proves it. Gg.

Oh and this thread is irrelevant aside from the fact that you did bring up a video that others may want to watch, and for that, you should be thanked. Truth be told, this video doesn't even provide you with enough to bash, much less a reason to. There are good parts to you attempting to, though, because we can talk about how you need to keep a level head and not burn yourself out like you would be driven to.

duggs · Jul 18, 2014

I would have a good chance of getting the grant I think, have the grades so far and I think my supervisor would recommend me, there are actually quite a few open slots and it pays a full time wage over here

dj11 · Jul 18, 2014

Shape shifting seems to be the Primary Business in Beverly Hills.

punctual · Jul 18, 2014

HooDooKoo said:
I didn't say conclusively that you can't be as good at poker as Phil Ivey is --- although I now have plenty of anecdotal evidence that suggests it's impossible.

-HooDooKoo

lol...thanks for that laugh I appreciate it

punctual · Jul 18, 2014

Jblocher1 said:
I like to think in terms of the most likely possible outcome. Isn't that what poker payers do? We think..... "Am I ahead of his range?" In terms of my life equity..... I'm not likely to make it as a pro, therefore I don't like to consider it as a possibility. It's a bad mind set to think we can be whatever we want

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So you are conceding that the most likely outcome for you is failure. Maybe you can not be whatever you want....I don't know you very well you could be right. But that is as much as i will believe: that you know more about yourself than I do.

I will not argue with you that you will most likely never be successful in poker. If that is what you believe then I'm sure you have good reason for believing it.

But I wonder how many professional poker players actually never believed they could be professionals? I would imagine, not many.

The first step to being, is believing......I doubt anyone would argue with that....

duggs · Jul 18, 2014

Nope the first step to being is having the ability.

What sites do you play on?

punctual · Jul 18, 2014

BenjiHustle said:
LOL "only"
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The grant's pretty much the biggest obstacle, as I understand it. Wouldn't know. Wonder what I could've done with an advanced degree in philosophy (lol). It was a good time though.

Anyway, we digress in the lull. After checking the s/n and realizing we have a pretty extensive history, I have nothing left to add. I don't need to play against him to prove anything, because I already have, and knowing that he plays on Bovada more than he plays on the site where I can look him up only suggests that I must have crushed him when I crushed that entire site up to and through 600nl.

punctual, you do not want me at your table. I have the data that proves it. Gg.

Oh and this thread is irrelevant aside from the fact that you did bring up a video that others may want to watch, and for that, you should be thanked. Truth be told, this video doesn't even provide you with enough to bash, much less a reason to. There are good parts to you attempting to, though, because we can talk about how you need to keep a level head and not burn yourself out like you would be driven to.

I did not say I am a poker professional at this moment. But if you have Ed Miller's mindset, that loser's mentality, then YES PLEASE join me at any table.....I would be more than glad to have you.....that is A FACT my friend.

The majority of experience I have is with tournaments not cash games.

And I am not saying I am a winning player yet.....but one day I will be

HooDooKoo · Jul 18, 2014

HooDooKoo said:
I didn't say conclusively that you can't be as good at poker as Phil Ivey is --- although I now have plenty of anecdotal evidence that suggests it's impossible. That's not, however, relevant to my comment above.

You are the only person in this thread espousing that anything is possible if you believe it enough and work hard enough at it. The fact that anything is possible in your world means that flying (unaided by tools/machines), shape-shifting, and immortality are possible --- if you believe in them enough and work hard enough to develop those skills. Yet no one in the history of mankind has managed to do any of those things, even though people have clearly tried to do each of them. If those things are possible in your world, how do you explain why no one has ever accomplished any of those feats?

-HooDooKoo

punctual said:
lol...thanks for that laugh I appreciate it

You seem to have ignored the central point of my post. What a shock!

-HooDooKoo

punctual · Jul 18, 2014

duggs said:
Nope the first step to being is having the ability.

Is that so? but this makes no sense logically. How does one have poker ability without first knowing about poker? How does one read a poker book to learn about poker without first believing that he/she could understand what is in it?

Believing comes first....unless you can provide another logical progression that makes sense.

duggs · Jul 18, 2014

Replace ability with capacity then, I didn't mean poker ability I meant physical and mental abilities or capacity, if you are even of average intelligence high level poker is beyond your comprehension.

duggs · Jul 18, 2014

Ie I don't have the natural potential to be an Olympic athlete, believing I do doesn't change my physical make up

punctual · Jul 18, 2014

HooDooKoo said:
You seem to have ignored the central point of my post. What a shock!

-HooDooKoo

Those who have achieved great things first and foremost believed that they could achieve those things. Whether it was poor black Barack Obama beleiving he could be president one day or Nikola Tesla believing he could find a way to make Alternating Current the standard in the power industry.

So let me say this straight up: if you don't believe you will be successful in poker, just stop playing now! Believing is everything...

punctual · Jul 18, 2014

duggs said:
Ie I don't have the natural potential to be an Olympic athlete, believing I do doesn't change my physical make up

But then this would be the nature vs nurture debate. Is talent inherent or something one picks up through life experience? By no means is this argument settled....that is why tehre are still two schools of thought on the subject

duggs · Jul 18, 2014

Nature v nurture does not refer to physical abilities that's just plain wrong. It's plain old genetics, same reason I'm moderately likely to get cancer but extremely unlikely to get an age related degenerative disease.

punctual · Jul 18, 2014

duggs said:
Nature v nurture does not refer to physical abilities that's just plain wrong. It's plain old genetics, same reason I'm moderately likely to get cancer but extremely unlikely to get an age related degenerative disease.

the nature/nurture debate is precisely about physical ability.....born vs bred.....

here's an article about it http://sportsscientists.com/2009/01/nature-vs-nurture/

BenjiHustle · Jul 18, 2014

Oh no, here comes an article.

Bro, you better read up on the subject. General education psychology taught you nothing!

Everybody has to write this essay, right?

I feel like Tim Tebow is a perfect example of how far an iron will can take a truly average individual who is stubborn.

HooDooKoo · Jul 18, 2014

punctual said:
Those who have achieved great things first and foremost believed that they could achieve those things. Whether it was poor black Barack Obama beleiving he could be president one day or Nikola Tesla believing he could find a way to make Alternating Current the standard in the power industry.

So let me say this straight up: if you don't believe you will be successful in poker, just stop playing now! Believing is everything...

Unsubbed. TOTAL waste of time.

Good luck to you, delusional one.

-HooDooKoo

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