****Astronomical August Spider Chat Thread****

[Debi]

Someone please make my W$SD% go up. It's current value of 41% for August is not quite high enough.

Try slot machines instead.

 

[slycbnew]

After playing a live donkament this weekend and busting out before the money, I decided I hadn't beat my head against a wall enough, so I played MTT's all day today to self-induce psychotic episodes.

Here's the last bust out, itm, 14 players left, my M is around 13.

Poker Stars, $33 Buy-in (500/1,000 blinds, 100 ante) NL Hold'em Tourney, 7 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

MP1: 37,833 (37.8 bb)
MP2: 31,789 (31.8 bb)
BTN: 73,434 (73.4 bb)
SB: 35,924 (35.9 bb)
Hero (BB): 29,038 (29 bb)
MP3: 66,650 (66.7 bb)
CO: 19,670 (19.7 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with Kc Ks
2 folds, MP1 raises to 2,500, MP2 folds, BTN calls 2,500, SB folds, Hero raises to 11,000, MP1 folds, BTN calls 8,500

Flop: (25,700) 6d Tc 2d (2 players)
Hero bets 17,938 and is all-in, BTN calls 17,938

Turn: (61,576) Qh (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (61,576) 5d (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Results: 61,576 pot
Hero showed Kc Ks (a pair of Kings) and lost (-29,038 net)
BTN showed 8d Ad (a flush, Ace high) and won 61,576 (32,538 net)

 

[switch0723]

standard sigh donkaments

 

[icemonkey9]

Someone please make my W$SD% go up. It's current value of 41% for August is not quite high enough.

lol ... wow you too bud? Mine is like 46% which is just beyond weird. Last month over 13k hands = 56% ... of course I've only played 3k hands in August.

 

[The Shrog]

http://theshrog.blogspot.com/

 

[Dwilius]

Pokerstars competing with Full Tilt, 50% bonus on up to $600 reload...and you can deposit in three steps over 90 days, so just have to make sure to get something in this week. Yay, free monies.

 

[eNTy]

Pokerstars competing with Full Tilt, 50% bonus on up to $600 reload...and you can deposit in three steps over 90 days, so just have to make sure to get something in this week. Yay, free monies.

link plz

 

[Dwilius]

http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/promotions/bonus/50/july09/

 

[BelgoSuisse]

http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/promotions/bonus/50/july09/

EDIT: damn, beaten to it.

 

[BelgoSuisse]

So, PS bonus requires 25 VPP to clear $1. With the new vpp rules, you get 5 VPP per $1 of MGR, so that's 20% rakeback, right?

 

[Jurn8]

reload bonus wheyyy ship it !

 

[jdeliverer]

Try slot machines instead.

nice avatar

 

[Debi]

nice avatar

leave me alone

 

[vanquish]

i dunno if i should go for this stars bonus

i dont want bonus curse on my stars acct

 

[WVHillbilly]

i dunno if i should go for this stars bonus

i dont want bonus curse on my stars acct

How's it going clearing your FT bonus?

 

[kleitches]

Supposedly HEM isn't important hands since the new Stars update. Anyone having problems with it?

 

[kleitches]

So, PS bonus requires 25 VPP to clear $1. With the new vpp rules, you get 5 VPP per $1 of MGR, so that's 20% rakeback, right?

Makes sense.

 

[vanquish]

How's it going clearing your FT bonus?

i'll probs be done tonight or tomorrow

dunno if i should try to stick around FT a bit or just go back to mass-collecting VPPs on stars so i can have SN and clear my bonuses before year ends

 

[kleitches]

i'll probs be done tonight or tomorrow

dunno if i should try to stick around FT a bit or just go back to mass-collecting VPPs on stars so i can have SN and clear my bonuses before year ends

FT = Rigged
Stars = Awesome

Easy choice imo

 

[WVHillbilly]

i'll probs be done tonight or tomorrow

dunno if i should try to stick around FT a bit or just go back to mass-collecting VPPs on stars so i can have SN and clear my bonuses before year ends

You have RB on FTP? If no, easy move back to Stars. Even with RB I guess if you can hit SN you're probably better off at Stars? Pretty close though.

 

[vanquish]

You have RB on FTP? If no, easy move back to Stars. Even with RB I guess if you can hit SN you're probably better off at Stars? Pretty close though.

yea i have RB on FT

i'd be pretty close to hitting SN on stars, but it feels like the games are softer on FT and they run faster

so its like, would i rather just get straight RB on FT and occasionally deal with their stupid software issues etc, but have softer games, or move back to tougher stars, and get higher RB but be forced to clear bonuses and really grind out hands to get that money (and the games are tougher there anyhoo)


what would u recommend

 

[Jurn8]

You have RB on FTP? If no, easy move back to Stars. Even with RB I guess if you can hit SN you're probably better off at Stars? Pretty close though.

what is FTPs RB like compared to PS.

What does the ironman stuff and mid year bonuses make your total rakeback at FTP?

 

[WVHillbilly]

yea i have RB on FT

i'd be pretty close to hitting SN on stars, but it feels like the games are softer on FT and they run faster

so its like, would i rather just get straight RB on FT and occasionally deal with their stupid software issues etc, but have softer games, or move back to tougher stars, and get higher RB but be forced to clear bonuses and really grind out hands to get that money (and the games are tougher there anyhoo)


what would u recommend

Honestly I like FTs software better than Stars, so if your wr is better AND you get more hands/hr AND you get 27% for me it's a no-brainer.

Jake, I'm only familiar with Stars rewards through other posts I've read but I think SN bonuses work out to around 30% maybe a little more depending on what milestones you hit.

As far as how much the Iron Man bonuses add (mid-year/end-of-year and IM points) it would really depend on the stakes you're playing. If you play 50nl and get the full $1200 IM bonuses + another $1200 with IM points it's a pretty significant percentage. If you play 200nl, not so much.

 

[Suited Frenzy]

HaHa...

This is 1 of those $0.30 sats, I decided to just lolDONKament it & went all-in 1st hand to find myself dominated to a 3 outer.

Honestly, sometimes these things are so funnnnnnnnnnnn

Full Tilt, 15/30 blinds NL Hold'em Tourney, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

SB: 1,500 (50 bb)
Hero (BB): 1,500 (50 bb)
UTG+1: 1,500 (50 bb)
UTG+2: 1,500 (50 bb)
MP1: 1,500 (50 bb)
MP2: 1,500 (50 bb)
MP3: 1,500 (50 bb)
CO: 1,500 (50 bb)
BTN: 1,500 (50 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with T

7

2 folds, MP1 calls 30, MP2 calls 30, MP3 folds, CO calls 30, 2 folds, Hero raises to 1,500 and is all-in, MP1 calls 1,470 and is all-in, 2 folds

Flop: (3,075) 5

6

7

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: (3,075) 4

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: (3,075) 7

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: 3,075 pot
Hero showed T

7

(three of a kind, Sevens) and won 3,075 (1,575 net)
MP1 showed K

T

(a pair of Sevens) and lost (-1,500 net)

 

[WVHillbilly]

More on RB + Bonuses at FTP:

This is based on my experience that 100 FTPs = ~$12 MGR.

If you rake $1500/month, get Iron each month, and buy $600 bonuses with your IM points in Jan/July (so you can clear them concurrently with the end/mid year bonuses) your actual RB number would work out to ~38.5% if my math is correct.

Here is how I figured it:
RB each month on $1500 at 27% is $405 x 10 months when RB is unaffected by bonus clearing = $4050

RB in months when clearing the bonuses brought with IM points is 27% of $900 MGR x 2 months = $486 (mid/end bonuses do not affect RB)

Total bonus $$ = $2400

Total of Bonus + RB = $6936

Total MGR = $18000

$18000/$6936 = .385444