****Astronomical August Spider Chat Thread****

[Jurn8]

WTF, this maybe why I seem to make more in the evening sessions!

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

Qattrokind: $15 (60 bb)
promix: $16.35 (65.4 bb)
JurnsPoker: $31.45 (125.8 bb)
Fiasco517: $8.35 (33.4 bb)
luciodog: $25.70 (102.8 bb)
jAAn79: $11.85 (47.4 bb)
sunboy69: $35 (140 bb)
MonkeyCat: $29.35 (117.4 bb)
Tooobi123: $10.80 (43.2 bb)

Pre-Flop: JurnsPoker is SB with A

A

Qattrokind posts BB out of position, 5 folds, Qattrokind raises to $15 and is all-in, promix folds, JurnsPoker raises to $31.45 and is all-in, Fiasco517 folds

Flop: ($30.25) 7

2

6

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($30.25) 8

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($30.25) A

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results:[spoil] $30.25 pot ($1.50 rake)
JurnsPoker showed A

A

(three of a kind, Aces) and won $28.75 ($13.75 net)
Qattrokind mucked 3

3

(a pair of Threes) and lost (-$15 net)
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[WVHillbilly]

OOP post + Open shove = Me calling with a LOT worse than AA there.

 

[Jurn8]

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/full-tilt-rakeback-vs-stars-fpp-program-82495/

PS for grinders by the looks

 

[Jurn8]

just found this aswell.

Bronze Star 8%
Silver Star 12%
Gold Star 16%
Platinum Star 20%
Supernova 28%
SN, 200k+ VPP ~31%
SN, 300k+ VPP ~34%
SN, 400k+ VPP ~36%
SN, 500k+ VPP ~39%
SN, 600k+ VPP ~41%
SN, 800k+ VPP ~43%
Supernova Elite ~57%

 

[orangepeeleo]

Poker sucks when variance kicks your ass, but it sucks even worse when your own bad play kicks your ass

 

[blankoblanco]

bahahaha YouTube - SCOTT THINKS LOCK POKER IS RIGGED----HE EVEN SHOWS YOU THE RIG---MATUSOW

this is mike matusow's brother. definitely worth the first 2 or 3 mins

 

[kleitches]

just found this aswell.

Bronze Star 8%
Silver Star 12%
Gold Star 16%
Platinum Star 20%
Supernova 28%
SN, 200k+ VPP ~31%
SN, 300k+ VPP ~34%
SN, 400k+ VPP ~36%
SN, 500k+ VPP ~39%
SN, 600k+ VPP ~41%
SN, 800k+ VPP ~43%
Supernova Elite ~57%

Meh, until you can get worthwhile cash bonuses, the vip levels really mean nothing. Like being a bronze, silver, or gold star is actually far less than the above percentages if don't cash well in satellites. For example if I'm Gold Star and play the 70 fpp satellites, if I cash in them 10% of the time, I'm definitely not getting the 16% that I'm supposedly getting in rakeback.

 

[Jurn8]

yeah it looks like RB + Iron Man + Mid year bonuses are better on ftp than stars but not at SNE

 

[kleitches]

btw for those of you looking to take full advantage of the Stars deposit bonus, it was confirmed on another forum that you can actually deposit $200 three times, then cash out 48 hours later and still be eligible for the full $300 bonus. Doing it this way allows you to receive your bonus funds every 2,500 vpps rather than waiting to clear all 7,500 vpps.

 

[Suited Frenzy]

I love when people make bad calls & chase & hit what they need...

Full Tilt, 30/60 blinds NL Hold'em Tourney, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

UTG+2: 2,645 (44.1 bb)
MP1: 5,240 (87.3 bb)
MP2: 4,910 (81.8 bb)
MP3: 4,265 (71.1 bb)
HaHaiLovePoker (CO): 6,695 (111.6 bb)
BTN: 1,345 (22.4 bb)
SB: 5,575 (92.9 bb)
BB: 2,400 (40 bb)

Pre-Flop: HaHaiLovePoker is CO with Q

K

3 folds, MP3 raises to 180, HaHaiLovePoker calls 180, BTN calls 180, 2 folds

Flop: (630) J

T

A

(3 players)
MP3 bets 180, HaHaiLovePoker raises to 540, BTN folds, MP3 calls 360

Turn: (1,710) 9

(2 players)
MP3 checks, HaHaiLovePoker bets 780, MP3 raises to 3,545 and is all-in, HaHaiLovePoker calls 2,765

River: (8,800) 8

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: 8,800 pot
MP3 showed Q

8

(a straight, Eight to Queen) and lost (-4,265 net)
HaHaiLovePoker showed Q

K

(a straight, Ten to Ace) and won 8,800 (4,535 net)

 

[Jurn8]

in my cashier it says 7,500 fpps to clear? I dont get which we have to clear although i know it says vpps in the promo bit

 

[kleitches]

in my cashier it says 7,500 fpps to clear? I dont get which we have to clear although i know it says vpps in the promo bit

Base fpps = vpps

 

[eNTy]

bahahaha
this is mike matusow's brother. definitely worth the first 2 or 3 mins

lol'd at clair -****ing- voyant

Stars has a 1st depositors bonus of $600 too now it seems, they are really going head to head with tilt now, all be it 3 years later lol

 

[Debi]

I guess there is no point in me making a deposit for the bonus since I only earn 250-500 FPP's a month lol.

 

[The Shrog]

cool.

Full Tilt, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

UTG+2: $14.35 (143.5 bb)
MP1: $22.34 (223.4 bb)
MP2: $10 (100 bb)
MP3: $19.35 (193.5 bb)
CO: $8.22 (82.2 bb)
BTN: $20 (200 bb)
SB: $10 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with T

A

UTG+2 calls $0.10, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.10, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.40) K

Q

J

(4 players)
SB bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.20, UTG+2 calls $1.20, MP3 calls $1.20, SB raises to $5, Hero raises to $9.90 and is all-in, UTG+2 calls $8.70, MP3 folds, SB calls $4.90 and is all-in

Turn: ($31.30) 5

(3 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($31.30) 4

(3 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $31.30 pot ($2.00 rake)
Hero showed T

A

(a straight, Ten to Ace) and won $29.30 ($19.30 net)
UTG+2 showed Q

K

(two pairs, Kings and Queens) and lost (-$10.00 net)
SB showed T

9

(a straight, Nine to King) and lost (-$10 net)

 

[jdeliverer]

I guess there is no point in me making a deposit for the bonus since I only earn 250-500 FPP's a month lol.

I think you get whatever % you earned when it expires if you don't clear it.

 

[pantin007]

scott matusow makes me happy

 

[Debi]

I think you get whatever % you earned when it expires if you don't clear it.

Can anyone confirm that - it is not clear at Pokerstars.

 

[Dwilius]

Don't know, but that's not true for their first deposit bonus. I've sent in an amount I know I can/will clear for now, I can add more later.

 

[switch0723]

cool hands against someone who i think is going to become a new reg since they were on a bunch of table 200 and 100 and had reggish stats, I welcome them.

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HAND #1
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Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

SB: $230 (230 bb)
Hero (BB): $129.90 (129.9 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with 8

8

SB raises to $3, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6) 2

4

7

(2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $4, Hero raises to $11, SB calls $7

Turn: ($28) J

(2 players)
Hero bets $19.50, SB calls $19.50

River: ($67) K

(2 players)
Hero bets $51.50, SB calls $51.50

Results: $170 pot ($3 rake)
Hero showed 8

8

(a pair of Eights) and won $167 ($82 net)
SB mucked 5

4

(a pair of Fours) and lost (-$85 net)



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HAND #2
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Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

Hero (MP3): $100.50 (100.5 bb)
CO: $98.50 (98.5 bb)
BTN: $149.30 (149.3 bb)
SB: $172.15 (172.2 bb)
BB: $106.80 (106.8 bb)
UTG+2: $92.88 (92.9 bb)
MP1: $104 (104 bb)
MP2: $96.90 (96.9 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP3 with A

K

3 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, 3 folds, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50) Q

8

8

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($7.50) 2

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($7.50) 2

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Results: $7.50 pot ($0.35 rake)
BB showed 8

8

(four of a kind, Eights) and won $7.15 ($3.65 net)
Hero showed A

K

(two pairs, Eights and Twos) and lost (-$3.50 net)



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HAND #3
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Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 10 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

BB: $70 (70 bb)
UTG: $178.41 (178.4 bb)
UTG+1: $121.85 (121.9 bb)
UTG+2: $108.60 (108.6 bb)
Hero (MP1): $174.45 (174.5 bb)
MP2: $102.80 (102.8 bb)
MP3: $38.20 (38.2 bb)
CO: $232 (232 bb)
BTN: $98.50 (98.5 bb)
SB: $98.50 (98.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP1 with K

K

2 folds, UTG+2 raises to $2, Hero raises to $8.50, 6 folds, UTG+2 calls $6.50

Flop: ($18.50) 6

4

8

(2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $13.50, UTG+2 raises to $59, Hero raises to $165.95 and is all-in, UTG+2 calls $41.10 and is all-in

Turn: ($218.70) T

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($218.70) 8

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $218.70 pot ($3 rake)
UTG+2 showed 7

5

(a straight, Four to Eight) and won $215.70 ($107.10 net)
Hero showed K

K

(two pairs, Kings and Eights) and lost (-$108.60 net)

 

[switch0723]

wow 1 tabling is so boring, just feels like a crime to leave when i have direct position on a 53/28 with a 450bb stack

 

[kleitches]

Can anyone confirm that - it is not clear at Pokerstars.

You have to clear the all the vpps required to receive the bonus. You do not get a certain percentage unfortunately. It's all or nothing, which is why people make such a big push to clear bonuses and end up losing a big chunk of their rolls.

 

[eNTy]

You have to clear the all the vpps required to receive the bonus. You do not get a certain percentage unfortunately. It's all or nothing, which is why people make such a big push to clear bonuses and end up losing a big chunk of their rolls.

or rake in the monies when they know how to play pokah
it just increases how much poker u play imo, don't see how that makes u lose ur roll

 

[kleitches]

or rake in the monies when they know how to play pokah
it just increases how much poker u play imo, don't see how that makes u lose ur roll

I was obviously exaggerating a bit. But people tend to play when they're not on their A-game for the sake of clearing a bonus, which is obviously -EV. That's the point I was getting at.

 

[Jurn8]

daks I have til the 02/03 to clear my bonus so you have a lot of time to clear it, maybe just play a little more