****Astronomical August Spider Chat Thread****

[vanquish]

thats probsies why u went busto

 

[Emperor IX]

dude honestly it seems like you're always worrying about results

like every other post from u is like "just dropped $60, my bankroll is down to this and this"

discipline urself not to worry about these short term losses, and perhaps consider moving to a game where ur not always wondering how much you have and how much you've won or lost to some fish who ran good

I think it's just the low limit grind for these years is getting me. I'm still working real hard to net these $50 days and it's sad. I see others who started around the same time I did (or even after) and they are out crushing more meaningful limits, and yet I've had to withdraw like THREE successful (400-$650) rolls that I've built from nothing, which as kept me from moving up. I think the reason I view my losses so negatively is just that I feel that I should be at the point where a $50 win/loss shouldn't even be noticable, as a $5 win/loss is right now (and has been for two goddamn years).

I never thought the psychological aspect of the game would get to me like it has over the last month. I've never really been results oriented when it comes to individual hands, but my negative sessions (in LIMIT of all freakin' games) are hard to swallow. I really need to get some books on the mindgame and actually put my short term subscription to Stox to good use.

I have little reason to believe that I wouldn't be playing at least 100nl by now if I never had the RL limitations placed on me.

I have to stop thinking "Damnit Roy you've been playing for damn near three years now and you're still playing 10nl? What the hell is wrong with you?" Because I think that's a huge part of my mental problem.

My BRM is pretty good. 1/2 is the only game I really can't afford to play, but I haven't really played a lot of it. I've never played $10+ tournaments that weren't special occasions/stakes. I limit my 25nl sessions to when I am over 10 bi's or so and only play one table, and stop the shot if I lose, and I generally DON'T continue even if I win.

My understanding of ranges and equity has greatly improved over the last few months, and I feel my postflop game crushes my postflop game from when I built $0 into workable br's. I know now I need to work a little more on preflop play (in cash games at least. I think my tournament play is ok, but it's causing leaks in cash play)

A big contributing factor to my mental state is volume, in the sense that I'm not playing enough hands to properly gauge my play. I do single table sessions for limit and play generally just 4-6 for 10nl, and when I do, I don't play for more than an hour or so. These last two months I've put in only 10k hands per month. I was hoping to get at least 20k this month, but it's not likely to happen as I'm not going to be able to up my tables of 10nl until the late second half of the month.

agh idk my mind is racing right now to figure out a way out of this psychological hump.

Maybe my thoughts on why I complain a lot are way off base, but hopefully over time I can learn to set my ego aside and actually start making some money.

 

[switch0723]

how much are u making a month switch tell me

over my entire 3.5 month career of full ring from 25-200nl i am avging 2.5k a month

fun start to this month, win several buyins off 100nl regs, lose a lot more buyins to fish at 200nl.

Im pretty sure kleitches has caught teh ghey based on who he thinks is hot

 

[kleitches]

Tell me you guys wouldn't shove into her on the river

Edit: sigh link won't work

 

[vanquish]

over my entire 3.5 month career of full ring from 25-200nl i am avging 2.5k a month

fun start to this month, win several buyins off 100nl regs, lose a lot more buyins to fish at 200nl.

Im pretty sure kleitches has caught teh ghey based on who he thinks is hot

dude that's mad boss

 

[switch0723]

Tell me you guys wouldn't shove into her on the river

try making posts that make sense

/lol the pic works now youve deleted your link

 

[kleitches]

try making posts that make sense

Look up "Evelyn Ng titties" in google. You'll see what I mean.

 

[switch0723]

[x] dissapointed with google images search

 

[switch0723]

she still not the hottest, ainec

 

[GeoffLacey]

FMLLLLLL just fkn misclick folded with top set in plo against an epic fish. FFMMLLLLL

 

[Suited Frenzy]

I wish I would get calls like this allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll day long...

Full Tilt, 50/100 blinds NL Hold'em Tourney, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

Hero (BB): 630 (6.3 bb)
UTG+2: 3,795 (38 bb)
MP1: 1,715 (17.2 bb)
MP2: 2,075 (20.8 bb)
MP3: 5,755 (57.6 bb)
CO: 2,885 (28.9 bb)
BTN: 1,395 (14 bb)
SB: 1,225 (12.3 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with 3

2

UTG+2 calls 100, MP1 folds, MP2 calls 100, 4 folds, Hero checks

Flop: (350) 5

4

4

(3 players)
Hero bets 530 and is all-in, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls 530

Turn: (1,410) 2

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (1,410) Q

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: 1,410 pot
Hero showed 3

2

(two pairs, Fours and Twos) and won 1,410 (780 net)
MP2 showed T

J

(a pair of Fours) and lost (-630 net)

 

[GeoffLacey]

top full house vs quads is fun fun fun

 

[vanquish]

no poasts ITT in a while

 

[BelgoSuisse]

Wow, FP just made another super excellent post in his blog yesterday night.

:congrats:

 

[Stick66]

Hey guys. What's a good "Flop Fold vs CBet%" for 50NL FR? I'm losing too much NSD winnings and I'm trying to find the cause (could be more than one leak, though).

 

[BelgoSuisse]

Hey guys. What's a good "Flop Fold vs CBet%" for 50NL FR? I'm losing too much NSD winnings and I'm trying to find the cause (could be more than one leak, though).

Don't have my HEM here, but i'd say something like 50%. Provided you play good enough preflop to play most of your pots in position, of course. Otherwise you're just spewing.

 

[BelgoSuisse]

I have little reason to believe that I wouldn't be playing at least 100nl by now if I never had the RL limitations placed on me.

I answered the rest elsewhere, but i'd like to add something here.

Yes, there is every reason to believe you would not be playing 100nl by now even if you didn't cash out your bankrolls because of RL. Moving up is a lot more than building up your BR up to the size where it's ok to play higher. The skill difference is massive.

Never underestimate the amount of things you need to learn and practise to move up successfully. It's really a lot more than just about BRM.

 

[Jurn8]

I think it's just the low limit grind for these years is getting me. I'm still working real hard to net these $50 days and it's sad. I see others who started around the same time I did (or even after) and they are out crushing more meaningful limits, and yet I've had to withdraw like THREE successful (400-$650) rolls that I've built from nothing, which as kept me from moving up. I think the reason I view my losses so negatively is just that I feel that I should be at the point where a $50 win/loss shouldn't even be noticable, as a $5 win/loss is right now (and has been for two goddamn years).

I never thought the psychological aspect of the game would get to me like it has over the last month. I've never really been results oriented when it comes to individual hands, but my negative sessions (in LIMIT of all freakin' games) are hard to swallow. I really need to get some books on the mindgame and actually put my short term subscription to Stox to good use.

I have little reason to believe that I wouldn't be playing at least 100nl by now if I never had the RL limitations placed on me.

I have to stop thinking "Damnit Roy you've been playing for damn near three years now and you're still playing 10nl? What the hell is wrong with you?" Because I think that's a huge part of my mental problem.

My BRM is pretty good. 1/2 is the only game I really can't afford to play, but I haven't really played a lot of it. I've never played $10+ tournaments that weren't special occasions/stakes. I limit my 25nl sessions to when I am over 10 bi's or so and only play one table, and stop the shot if I lose, and I generally DON'T continue even if I win.

My understanding of ranges and equity has greatly improved over the last few months, and I feel my postflop game crushes my postflop game from when I built $0 into workable br's. I know now I need to work a little more on preflop play (in cash games at least. I think my tournament play is ok, but it's causing leaks in cash play)

A big contributing factor to my mental state is volume, in the sense that I'm not playing enough hands to properly gauge my play. I do single table sessions for limit and play generally just 4-6 for 10nl, and when I do, I don't play for more than an hour or so. These last two months I've put in only 10k hands per month. I was hoping to get at least 20k this month, but it's not likely to happen as I'm not going to be able to up my tables of 10nl until the late second half of the month.

agh idk my mind is racing right now to figure out a way out of this psychological hump.

Maybe my thoughts on why I complain a lot are way off base, but hopefully over time I can learn to set my ego aside and actually start making some money.

dont worry emperor just keep grinding it out and if your winning long term just try and not focus on short term results. Obvs its hard but just try not looking at session results for like 2 days or a week or dont look at your cashier for a week. I used to do that and now I dont get too fussed about being down on monies.

@ all the dasher dudes, does he have like a black dude as his avatar ?? not sure if I have ever seen him . Actually just checked HEM and he seems standard 15/12 kinda dude.

All you guys seemed to have seen him around and agree switch I would prefer to be playing 100/200nl than 25nl for a living lol. I wish I could beat 100nl

 

[BelgoSuisse]

Hey guys. What's a good "Flop Fold vs CBet%" for 50NL FR? I'm losing too much NSD winnings and I'm trying to find the cause (could be more than one leak, though).

More on that:

essentially, i don't face cbets a lot because when you play 15/12, there's only 3% of your hands where you could be facing one (i never limp).

A logical consequence is that, when i'm in this situation, there was a reason i flat called preflop. Either because i thought i have huge implied odds (a rock opened UTG) and then it's ok to play more or less fit or fold, or because i thought i have a great chance of taking the pot away post flop (a loose CO opened and i'm on the BTN), and then my fold to cbet will be extremely low provided the board texture allows me to rep "something".

 

[F Paulsson]

Wow, FP just made another super excellent post in his blog yesterday night.

:congrats:

Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week!

 

[eNTy]

thats probsies why u went busto

false

 

[orangepeeleo]

Wow, FP just made another super excellent post in his blog yesterday night.

:congrats:

Definetly some gold in his blog post, i wish i could think like that while i'm out for a stroll lol

 

[Stick66]

Don't have my HEM here, but i'd say something like 50%. Provided you play good enough preflop to play most of your pots in position, of course. Otherwise you're just spewing.

More on that:

essentially, i don't face cbets a lot because when you play 15/12, there's only 3% of your hands where you could be facing one (i never limp).

A logical consequence is that, when i'm in this situation, there was a reason i flat called preflop. Either because i thought i have huge implied odds (a rock opened UTG) and then it's ok to play more or less fit or fold, or because i thought i have a great chance of taking the pot away post flop (a loose CO opened and i'm on the BTN), and then my fold to cbet will be extremely low provided the board texture allows me to rep "something".

So I'm at about 58% FFTCB and I thought I was calling too much, but you say I should actually be calling 8% more.

Hmmm. OK, I guess I'll have to look elsewhere for leaks. Thanks for the input. (BTW, I play 12/6. So maybe that's something else I should look at. 12/10 would be nice.)

 

[The Shrog]

Playing my best today.

 

[Falian]

I think its about time that i'm able to give back to the community. If anyone is looking to strengthen their Micro MTT play then pm me, i'll be letting people ghost me for free this week using mitigo.