The bigger the ratio between your short stack and large or effective stack, the more you should be aware of the fact that someone will be calling your shoves or you might even get into a multipot. Should be prepared for a chance of losing with your better hands. That's why with a short stack you normally not sitting and waiting for premium hands. You should try and maintain the size of your stack, so your shoves are more respected. And if they call you with 93, you failed to do that 🙂 So no need to be angry.
Only when I play CC games and take someone out with a hand I needed some luck to get the last card needed to complete the hand. It lasts for one hand. None CC games all I can say is life sucks hope you are not doing this for a living. Always more games.
No, and here's why. If you're a winning player you, by DEFINITION, have an average positive EV meaning you get sucked out on more than your average competition.
If anything you release a bit of air through your nose and reminisce about that one tournament where that suckout/cooler happened to you 2-3 times.
If anything you release a bit of air through your nose and reminisce about that one tournament where that suckout/cooler happened to you 2-3 times.
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Empathy, not as much sympathy..
You play enough poker, you often see a scenario you've been in before. We've all felt the sting of chasing the stacks until the very end, a coin flip vs chip leader, you lose; it's the usual outcome when chasing in a long tourney.
When I have chips, I take no joy in grinding a smaller stack all the way out. It is just part of the process; if I'm not taking others out, they are doing their best to take me out.
But there is a little pleasure seeing a early stage chip bully being taken down.
You play enough poker, you often see a scenario you've been in before. We've all felt the sting of chasing the stacks until the very end, a coin flip vs chip leader, you lose; it's the usual outcome when chasing in a long tourney.
When I have chips, I take no joy in grinding a smaller stack all the way out. It is just part of the process; if I'm not taking others out, they are doing their best to take me out.
But there is a little pleasure seeing a early stage chip bully being taken down.
I do not feel sorry as we are all players. We should know our risks and the effect of variance on the outcome and just accept it as part of the game. As they say in a gambling song - "you win some, loose some and do the same to me". 🙂
it's complicated but we have to get used to it, tournaments have a lot of variance and players have to get used to it. Not always the best hand will win, so the good thing is not to think about these things and do your best, if you make the right decisions all right, at least you did your best, if you lost your premium hand it was the fault of the variance and not yours 🙂🙂
Sale_MLS said:
I feel kind of bad (and guilty) for the guys who are at the tables every day with a min-buy in stack whom I watch get wrecked by the 4 other regs at the table over and over. It feels wrong to me to exploit these players since I wonder if they have a gambling addiction 🙁
I sometimes just give these guys a break by checking it down when I don't have a pair or better.
ventrolloquist said:
I can relate to you here ^
For me, cash tables & tournaments are two different things. Years ago I felt bad while playing on cash tables (Fulltilt days) and after easily stacking some donkey I would often ship them their 100bb's back via a transfer. I'd picture them sitting there, feeling totally defeated over & over... maybe down to their last $'s in their account. Certainly not the ruthless type of mindset one might find to be more optimal, lol. I'd also picture them having a gambling addiction.
But for tournament play I don't feel bad or sorry for anyone. I don't experience the same moral dilemma there. I actually focused on tournament play for my first 4yrs. online partly because of this.
Today I play mostly cash & I don't think about it at all. I don't even picture the other players on my table as people... & if I do, I don't picture the 18yr. old kid in some 3rd world county hardly being able to buy into a $5 mtt or some grandma who lives down the street from me, having fun while sipping her afternoon tea while feeling sorry for them when they lose. Instead I might picture some pimply-faced, mouthy teenage punk with his jeans pulled down & hangin' below his arse, hat turned sideways while holding an assortment of odd finger sign languages up in front of his face, sayin' stuff like 'axe' when it clearly should be 'ask' & he knows it. It's much easier for me this way, lol.
When some donk sucks out on someone on a tournament table, I picture someone who hardly even realizes how lucky they actually just got... I picture that old grandma shouting out over to her half-asleep husband who's pretending to read the newspaper "Honey I hit my straight! I knew it was going to be a '4'... "FOUR!!!! Come on FOUR!!!" "
That happens to me and I do not expect anyone to feel sorry for me. It is poker, if it was a tournament, then it means another player eliminated. I felt sorry for a lady a months back so I did not go all and take her chips, much to her surprise. Guess what she came back strong and knocked me out about an hour later. Good for her, I was a fool.
