PSSucks said:Since the question is about the game of poker -- not gambling, I don't think there's anything wrong with children learning poker at home as a family card game with no money used -- only chips for the pride of winning, like any family game.
I think it's a good learning exercise if approached in the right way with the potential to teach and reinforce lots of personal and practical skills, as well as setting up opportunities for more bonding.
fletchdad said:Read OP a bit more carefully..... OP was talking about an account at Pokerstars. Not just "the game of poker".
PSSucks said:Excuse me? The OP asked the question, "Do you think poker should be suitable for minors?"
I answered the question as it was asked. The the OP included his thoughts about people under 18 opening accounts at PS in his content, but why is it assumed those are real cash accounts and not for play money? The word "gambling" is not mentioned even once by the OP.
You are certainly welcome to give your opinions about minors gambling or make assumptions about the question to include gambling, even though it was never mentioned. At the same time, I have the right (hopefully without complaint from anyone) to answer the question JUST as it was asked to point out that I feel a friendly game of family poker is a good thing.
I AM sorry if you fell my comment was aimed at you. I had to go back to see why you chose to criticize me then noticed your comment about minors gambling in the post preceding mine. Perhaps YOU should read the question more carefully.
fletchdad said:...and to be a bit of a jerk like you...
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I do not think there's any need to make personal insults. Discussing a question is one thing but that wasn't necessary.
You decided that "(and, yes, poker IS gambling)" to quote you exactly, and I disagree. Poker is a game and gambling entails risking the loss of something. I can gamble about virtually everything but not everything is gambling. I can play many games and make gambling part of them or just use tokens for fun.
You clearly disagree but please do it without getting directly personal.
PSSucks said:fletchdad said:...and to be a bit of a jerk like you...
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I do not think there's any need to make personal insults. Discussing a question is one thing but that wasn't necessary.
You decided that "(and, yes, poker IS gambling)" to quote you exactly, and I disagree. Poker is a game and gambling entails risking the loss of something. I can gamble about virtually everything but not everything is gambling. I can play many games and make gambling part of them or just use tokens for fun.
You clearly disagree but please do it without getting directly personal.
Poker: Gambling? I didnt decide anything. I have a very strong leaning. You just want to attack back, ok, I guess.... From an article exploring if poker is gambling:
• Semantically, 'yes' because poker, like most other activities involves taking risks for possible ultimate reward.
• Legally, the answer used to be 'yes' but slowly it is becoming 'no.'
• Pragmatically, 'yes' and 'no' depending on the player's ability to exploit the inherent flexibility in the game.
Giving minors the opportunity to play for money on a website (OP explicitly said kids with accounts on pokerstars and did not say only play money) is not a great idea.
And if you dont want personal replies, refrain from such personal statement as"Perhaps YOU should read the question more carefully." cause it sure sounded like an unnecessary personal-attack-way to phase your thought...... If you meant it nicely....., then sorry. It didnt look that way.
fletchdad said:PSSucks said:Poker: Gambling? I didnt decide anything. I have a very strong leaning. You just want to attack back, ok, I guess.... From an article exploring if poker is gambling:
• Semantically, 'yes' because poker, like most other activities involves taking risks for possible ultimate reward.
• Legally, the answer used to be 'yes' but slowly it is becoming 'no.'
• Pragmatically, 'yes' and 'no' depending on the player's ability to exploit the inherent flexibility in the game.
Giving minors the opportunity to play for money on a website (OP explicitly said kids with accounts on pokerstars and did not say only play money) is not a great idea.
And if you dont want personal replies, refrain from such personal statement as"Perhaps YOU should read the question more carefully." cause it sure sounded like an unnecessary personal-attack-way to phase your thought...... If you meant it nicely....., then sorry. It didnt look that way.
I have no problem with any replies that disagree with my opinion, I only have a problem when someone calls me a "jerk" or other such needless derogatory terms. I completely disagree with some of what you are saying, but I can easily refrain from labeling it or you in nasty way, and I will conclude this by only asking you to do the same.
PSSucks said:fletchdad said:I have no problem with any replies that disagree with my opinion, I only have a problem when someone calls me a "jerk" or other such needless derogatory terms. I completely disagree with some of what you are saying, but I can easily refrain from labeling it or you in nasty way, and I will conclude this by only asking you to do the same.
Deal. Sorry it got uncomfortable, was not my intention.
mihael said:In my country (Peru) I have a lot of friends who are under 18 and play poker creating false accounts in pokerstars ... I think it is a game that anyone should play but I respect that by terms and conditions they are prohibited