combuboom said:
lol okay ... i want whining stipulations for the Feb Chat Thread from you. The rest will forevermore by all be put in the BBV thread where it belongs.
And trust me you wont hear anything from me anymore in either spot.
stipulations are if the hand played out pretty standardly and it ends up being a coinflip, it's probably not worth posting =P
well this one is a happy one, it made me smile. lol @ how hard they set me up and lol @ how he got the minimum possible. this is BLIND vs. BLIND. wow
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HAND #1
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Full Tilt, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
MP: $180.90 (90.5 bb)
CO: $268.40 (134.2 bb)
BTN: $55.10 (27.6 bb)
Hero (SB): $210.85 (105.4 bb)
BB: $148.05 (74 bb)
UTG: $218.55 (109.3 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with J
J
4 folds, Hero raises to $7, BB calls $5
Flop: ($14) 5
T
T
(2 players)
Hero bets $9, BB raises to $18, Hero calls $9
Turn: ($50) 8
(2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks
River: ($50) 4
(2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks
Results: $50 pot ($2.50 rake)
BB showed Q
Q
(two pairs, Queens and Tens) and won $47.50 ($22.50 net)
Hero mucked J
J
(two pairs, Jacks and Tens) and lost (-$25 net)
well this one is a happy one, it made me smile. lol @ how hard they set me up and lol @ how he got the minimum possible. this is BLIND vs. BLIND. wow
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HAND #1
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Full Tilt, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
MP: $180.90 (90.5 bb)
CO: $268.40 (134.2 bb)
BTN: $55.10 (27.6 bb)
Hero (SB): $210.85 (105.4 bb)
BB: $148.05 (74 bb)
UTG: $218.55 (109.3 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with J
4 folds, Hero raises to $7, BB calls $5
Flop: ($14) 5
Hero bets $9, BB raises to $18, Hero calls $9
Turn: ($50) 8
Hero checks, BB checks
River: ($50) 4
Hero checks, BB checks
Results: $50 pot ($2.50 rake)
BB showed Q
Hero mucked J
Full Tilt, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
MP: $180.90 (90.5 bb)
CO: $268.40 (134.2 bb)
BTN: $55.10 (27.6 bb)
Hero (SB): $210.85 (105.4 bb)
BB: $148.05 (74 bb)
UTG: $218.55 (109.3 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with JJ
4 folds, Hero raises to $7, BB calls $5
Flop: ($14) 5TT(2 players)
Hero bets $9, BB raises to $18, Hero calls $9
Turn: ($50) 8(2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks
River: ($50) 4(2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks
Results: $50 pot ($2.50 rake)
BB showed QQ(two pairs, Queens and Tens) and won $47.50 ($22.50 net)
Hero mucked JJ(two pairs, Jacks and Tens) and lost (-$25 net)
Musta had you on quads. Or hates betting. Or is bad.
Busting fish iz fun.. both of these villains are absolutely horrible..the short stack was caught shoving 8Ts earlier and the other guy is coming along with any ace, pp, or suited connector most likely
and I actually won AA vs KK earlier... first time in the last 8
Stacks:
BestMuckl with $50.35
BTN with $80.45
SB with $110.75
BB with $12.35
UTG with $9.75
UTG+1 with $52.50
MP1 with $55.95
MP2 with $22.30
Blinds: $0.00/$0.00
Site: Pokerstars
Dealt to BTN:T♠ T♣
Sklansky group 2
Preflop:
4 players fold.
bestmuckl raises $1 to $1.50 Hero calls [$1.50]
1 players fold.
BB raises $10.85 to $12.35 [ all-in ]
bestmuckl calls [$10.85] Hero calls [$10.85]
Total folds this street: 5
Potsize: $37.3
Flop: A♣ 4♣ 10♥
bestmuckl bets [$5] Hero calls [$5]
Potsize: $47.3
Turn: 8♥
bestmuckl bets [$5] Hero raises $8 to $13
bestmuckl raises $20 to $33 [ all-in ] Hero calls [$20]
Potsize: $113.3
River: A♦
Results:
BestMuckl shows three of a kind, Aces: J♠ A♠
Hero shows a full house, Tens full of Aces: 10♠ 10♣ Hero collected $74.85 from side pot
BB doesn't show. Hero collected $35.45 from main pot
and I actually won AA vs KK earlier... first time in the last 8
Stacks:
BestMuckl with $50.35
BTN with $80.45
SB with $110.75
BB with $12.35
UTG with $9.75
UTG+1 with $52.50
MP1 with $55.95
MP2 with $22.30
Blinds: $0.00/$0.00
Site: Pokerstars
Dealt to BTN:T♠ T♣
Sklansky group 2
Preflop:
4 players fold.
bestmuckl raises $1 to $1.50 Hero calls [$1.50]
1 players fold.
BB raises $10.85 to $12.35 [ all-in ]
bestmuckl calls [$10.85] Hero calls [$10.85]
Total folds this street: 5
Potsize: $37.3
Flop: A♣ 4♣ 10♥
bestmuckl bets [$5] Hero calls [$5]
Potsize: $47.3
Turn: 8♥
bestmuckl bets [$5] Hero raises $8 to $13
bestmuckl raises $20 to $33 [ all-in ] Hero calls [$20]
Potsize: $113.3
River: A♦
Results:
BestMuckl shows three of a kind, Aces: J♠ A♠
Hero shows a full house, Tens full of Aces: 10♠ 10♣ Hero collected $74.85 from side pot
BB doesn't show. Hero collected $35.45 from main pot
The Shrog said:
There are an amazingly large number of (god awful) players who seem to hate betting. I will never understand how you can have the nuts (or virtually the nuts) and never think it's worth a bet, or my favorite..check behind or just flat call on the river. Will never, ever understand.
combuboom said:
That's 3rd worse imo. Honestly I don't mind flatting QQ in a lot of spots where most people 3-bet. This is not one of them though because I would be 3-betting you and looking to get it in. So yeah I think it's a mistake because you raised from SB and I assume you have a super-wide range which includes a lot of Ax and Kx hands but I think the flop raise and not vbetting river are both worse than not 3-betting pre.
i give up. i can't have the best hand at showdown. it's impossible. doesn't matter if it's all-in preflop, doesn't matter if it checks through, just doesn't matter. these idiots play so bad it blows my mind
lol @ this hand. this is probably the worst flop peel i've ever seen at 200NL
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HAND #1
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Full Tilt, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
BB: $203 (101.5 bb)
UTG+1: $237.50 (118.8 bb)
UTG+2: $100 (50 bb)
MP1: $179.25 (89.6 bb)
MP2: $214.75 (107.4 bb)
MP3: $345.35 (172.7 bb)
CO: $148.95 (74.5 bb)
BTN: $157.10 (78.6 bb)
Hero (SB): $201 (100.5 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with 5
5
2 folds, MP1 raises to $7, 4 folds, Hero calls $6, BB folds
Flop: ($16) K
5
Q
(2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $10, Hero raises to $35, MP1 calls $25
Turn: ($86) 2
(2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks
River: ($86) T
(2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks
Results: $86 pot ($3 rake)
Hero showed 5
5
(a flush, King high) and won $41.50 (-$0.50 net)
MP1 showed J
A
(a flush, King high) and won $41.50 (-$0.50 net)
lol @ this hand. this is probably the worst flop peel i've ever seen at 200NL
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HAND #1
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Full Tilt, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
BB: $203 (101.5 bb)
UTG+1: $237.50 (118.8 bb)
UTG+2: $100 (50 bb)
MP1: $179.25 (89.6 bb)
MP2: $214.75 (107.4 bb)
MP3: $345.35 (172.7 bb)
CO: $148.95 (74.5 bb)
BTN: $157.10 (78.6 bb)
Hero (SB): $201 (100.5 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with 5
2 folds, MP1 raises to $7, 4 folds, Hero calls $6, BB folds
Flop: ($16) K
Hero checks, MP1 bets $10, Hero raises to $35, MP1 calls $25
Turn: ($86) 2
Hero checks, MP1 checks
River: ($86) T
Hero checks, MP1 checks
Results: $86 pot ($3 rake)
Hero showed 5
MP1 showed J
wtf, he had gutshot an overcard AND ace high, if you have AcX and the turn and river brick, its a pretty sick call though 😛
Anyone know how to calculate roi?
In the turbos, the rake is 1/22nd of the buyin
If you always get it in as a 60/40 fav each tourny, what would the roi be?
Is it 15%?
Anyone know how to calculate roi?
In the turbos, the rake is 1/22nd of the buyin
If you always get it in as a 60/40 fav each tourny, what would the roi be?
Is it 15%?
switch0723 said:
What do you mean by 60/40 each tourney? You mean if we assume no stealing/coolers/etc. and every hand you just straight up flip 60/40 until either you win or bust what would your roi be? That's possible to figure out if you include the payout structure.
Isn't there merit to turning our hand into a bluff and betting the river?combuboom said:Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with 55
2 folds, MP1 raises to $7, 4 folds, Hero calls $6, BB folds
Flop: ($16) K5Q(2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $10, Hero raises to $35, MP1 calls $25
Turn: ($86) 2(2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks
River: ($86) T(2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks
holy crap zach, my vista just did the same freeze up bullshit in the middle of a session. first time it's ever happened to me too. sure enough, happened when i was on the river and just check/raised kings full for 2/3 my stack. got back to the table and had moneys so apparently the guy folded. holy crap if he shoves over the top and i timeout i kill myself
c9h13no3 said:
eh maybe a little, but i think any club draws are a huge part of his range cause the guy is an idiot. and these guys check back the Ac on the turn to be "tricky" as a standard, basically. and he'd also check back a lot of his weaker clubs but never ever fold on the river. he was retarded, i feel like betting is -EV. i wouldnt have been surprised if he called me with that cause he hit his straight!
combuboom said:
That wouldn't be so bad would it.
Correct me if I'm wrong but:
If he calls you still split, if he folds you win extra money. So isn't the bluff the better option then ? Or am I missing something.
You'd just pay a little more rake right.
eNTy said:
? you're missing something. the point is that if he's ever retarded enough to call with a chop, it hugely hurts the merit of betting. but even without that i think betting is bad
cool just ran AK into a 60/0 halfstack who slowplayed AA, flop came K95, beautiful
combuboom said:
I still know the feeling. I just got busted out of a tourney, 2 1/2 hours in, by 24o! I had QJs and the board fell J2Q, I push, he calls turn/river are blank/2!😱
I spent about 5 minutes letting him read my extensive knowledge of four letter words in both upper case and lower case!😀
