***February Fever Poker Chat***

dropped 11.5 buy ins today. lost the 51% favourites, lost the 95% favourites
damn you omaha

/ambition

Ok, should probably stop stacking QQ vs tag/nits.

UTG+1: $41.30 (165.2 bb)
MP1: $6.20 (24.8 bb)
MP2: $25 (100 bb)
MP3: $26.25 (105 bb)
Hero (CO): $25.90 (103.6 bb)
BTN: $26.25 (105 bb)
SB: $19.60 (78.4 bb)
BB: $39.85 (159.4 bb)
UTG: $28.60 (114.4 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is CO with Q:club: Q:heart:
UTG raises to $1, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, 3 folds, UTG raises to $28.60 and is all-in, MP1 calls $5.20 and is all-in, Hero calls $22.40 and is all-in

Flop: ($58.35) Q:spade: Q:diamond: 7:heart: (3 players, 3 are all-in)
Turn: ($58.35) 2:club: (3 players, 3 are all-in)
River: ($58.35) T:spade: (3 players, 3 are all-in)

Results: $58.35 pot ($2.90 rake)
UTG showed K:spade: K:heart: (two pairs, Kings and Queens) and lost (-$25.90 net)
Hero showed Q:club: Q:heart: (four of a kind, Queens) and won $55.45 ($29.55 net)
MP1 mucked J:club: A:club: (a pair of Queens) and lost (-$6.20 net)

But then again the flop is nice.

Also this is the very next hand at the same table lol.

BB: $41.30 (165.2 bb)
UTG: $10 (40 bb)
UTG+1: $25 (100 bb)
MP1: $26.25 (105 bb)
Hero (MP2): $55.45 (221.8 bb)
MP3: $26.25 (105 bb)
CO: $19.50 (78 bb)
BTN: $39.50 (158 bb)
SB: $25.10 (100.4 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP2 with Q:diamond: Q:spade:
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $0.75, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $3, 5 folds, UTG+1 raises to $6, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($12.35) 4:spade: 7:heart: 5:spade: (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $7, Hero raises to $23.50, UTG+1 calls $12 and is all-in

Turn: ($50.35) Q:heart: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($50.35) 4:club: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $50.35 pot ($2.45 rake)
UTG+1 showed 8:club: 8:spade: (two pairs, Eights and Fours) and lost (-$25 net)
Hero showed Q:diamond: Q:spade: (a full house, Queens full of Fours) and won $47.90 ($22.90 net)

Finally a session where the fish actually pay me off, reload and stay !

BB: $30 (120 bb)
UTG: $24.65 (98.6 bb)
UTG+1: $25 (100 bb)
MP1: $20.35 (81.4 bb)
MP2: $27.95 (111.8 bb)
MP3: $4.75 (19 bb)
Hero (CO): $25 (100 bb)
BTN: $28.75 (115 bb)
SB: $109.80 (439.2 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is CO with Q:club: A:club:
2 folds, MP1 raises to $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $3.25, 3 folds, MP1 calls $2.25

Flop: ($6.85) 7:club: 5:club: K:club: (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $2.75, MP1 calls $2.75

Turn: ($12.35) 6:diamond: (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks

River: ($12.35) T:club: (2 players)
MP1 bets $10, Hero raises to $19 and is all-in, MP1 calls $4.35 and is all-in

Results: $41.05 pot ($2.00 rake)
Hero showed Q:club: A:club: (a flush, Ace high) and won $39.05 ($18.70 net)
MP1 showed 2:club: 3:heart: (a flush, King high) and lost (-$20.35 net)

eNTy said:

Turn: ($12.35) 6♦ (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks

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You're against a fish, bet your ****ing hand.

But he is the master of draws. I'm sure letting him hit his flush is +ev since we're holding the nuts ?

and [URL="https://www.cardschat.com/forum/community-hangout-4/im-bored-help-me-good-threads-144638"]help me
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eNTy said:

But he is the master of draws. I'm sure letting him hit his flush is +ev since we're holding the nuts ?

and
https://www.cardschat.com/forum/community-hangout-4/im-bored-help-me-good-threads-144638/

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ASPLDKFA;SLKDFJ;ALSKDFJ HE HAS A RANGE OF hands A SUPER WIDE RANGE CUZ HE IS A FISH AND HE'S GOING TO CALL WITH ALL OF IT AND SOMETIMES HE DOESNT HAVE A LFUH DRAW AND YOU JUST KILLED YOUR ACTION OMFG **** YOUR WAFFLES!

Rage

if he'll call with those draws then you want to bet the turn since the flush will miss more than 80% of the time. you can make it pretty small of course because you certainly don't want him to fold them. plus some of his other hands picked up a straight draw on the turn. and if he has a pair, well who folds pairs?

that guy played the hand so spectacularly i'm in awe

Or, he will stack off with bottom pair for 146 big blinds:

BTN: $35.14 (35.1 bb)
SB: $108.89 (108.9 bb)
BB: $309.93 (309.9 bb)
Hero (UTG): $146 (146 bb)
MP: $91 (91 bb)
CO: $104.50 (104.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is UTG with J♣J♥
Hero raises to $3.50, 4 folds, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50) 6♥ 3♠ 2♣ (2 players)
BB bets $4, Hero raises to $25, BB calls $21

Turn: ($57.50) 7♠ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $45, BB calls $45

River: ($147.50) 7♣ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $72.50 and is all-in, BB calls $72.50

Hero shows J♣J♥
Hero wins $289.00 USD from main pot
Fish shows 2♥ 5♠

This is why we bet Enty, etch this into your brain. Fish love to call! So bet your hand! They cannot call if you do not bet. This is not rocket science. Stop worrying about what they'll pay you with, because they'll pay you with everything. Start putting money in the god damn pot.

I try, I try. But sometimes they fold.
I know not bad and it happens.

I guess I was lucky the flush hit then.

c9h13no3 said:

Or, he will stack off with bottom pair for 146 big blinds:

BTN: $35.14 (35.1 bb)
SB: $108.89 (108.9 bb)
BB: $309.93 (309.9 bb)
Hero (UTG): $146 (146 bb)
MP: $91 (91 bb)
CO: $104.50 (104.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is UTG with J♣J♥
Hero raises to $3.50, 4 folds, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($7.50) 6♥ 3♠ 2♣ (2 players)
BB bets $4, Hero raises to $25, BB calls $21

Turn: ($57.50) 7♠ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $45, BB calls $45

River: ($147.50) 7♣ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $72.50 and is all-in, BB calls $72.50

Hero shows J♣J♥
Hero wins $289.00 USD from main pot
Fish shows 2♥ 5♠

This is why we bet Enty, etch this into your brain. Fish love to call! So bet your hand! They cannot call if you do not bet. This is not rocket science. Stop worrying about what they'll pay you with, because they'll pay you with everything. Start putting money in the god damn pot.

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thinly veiled brag

eNTy said:

I try, I try. But sometimes they fold.
I know not bad and it happens.

I guess I was lucky the flush hit then.

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yeah, once his 2 of clubs connected it was just a huge cooler imo!

combuboom said:

yeah, once his 2 of clubs connected it was just a huge cooler imo!

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ldo.

Stayed at the table and reloaded many. Unfortunately I didn't get cards and could not take many. Others did and they were happy. I was not.

He left and lost $100 total, 4 buyins, from what I saw but he was there when I got there, together with someone who already had a 400bb, $100, stack

Meh...gonna review my session tomorrow...

Feel like I played like crap today but I still ended up +2 BI

And I'm logging off upset... I guess that's a good thing?

eNTy said:

Finally a session where the fish actually pay me off, reload and stay !

BB: $30 (120 bb)
UTG: $24.65 (98.6 bb)
UTG+1: $25 (100 bb)
MP1: $20.35 (81.4 bb)
MP2: $27.95 (111.8 bb)
MP3: $4.75 (19 bb)
Hero (CO): $25 (100 bb)
BTN: $28.75 (115 bb)
SB: $109.80 (439.2 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is CO with Q♣ A♣
2 folds, MP1 raises to $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $3.25, 3 folds, MP1 calls $2.25

Flop: ($6.85) 7♣ 5♣ K♣ (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $2.75, MP1 calls $2.75

Turn: ($12.35) 6♦ (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks

River: ($12.35) T♣ (2 players)
MP1 bets $10, Hero raises to $19 and is all-in, MP1 calls $4.35 and is all-in

Results: $41.05 pot ($2.00 rake)
Hero showed Q♣ A♣ (a flush, Ace high) and won $39.05 ($18.70 net)
MP1 showed 2♣ 3♥ (a flush, King high) and lost (-$20.35 net)

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Obviously I don't see all your hands, but you complain about running bad at 25nl a lot, this is where the money is going. When you hit a hand, bet it. Bet it again and again and again. At 25nl they will call you with just about anything, especially given that they called the flop. You could play fine without ever slowplaying. If they don't have a hand they'll never call. When you check you don't give them a chance to make a big mistake. Give them a chance to make that mistake. Bet more on the flop, bet the turn, and if the money isn't in already shove the river. You're not making your big money when they flop a hand they want to get it in with (despite the fact that it's the nut low flush here...), you make money when they decide their KQ in this spot is good enough to stack. You did it in the video and people all over 25nl do it. They see they have a hand, whether it's top pair, middle pair, an underpair, a draw on the flop/turn, whatever, and they call. They call too much, that's what you want to exploit. That's where the money comes from if you want to crush 25nl. There are generally 2 types of players: the nits and the fish. Even most nits are fish, but you make money from the nits by stealing from them, and you make money from the fish by bet-bet-betting your hands. You flop the nuts so if villain is a nit they're not putting in any money with worse and if they have a good hand they have a hard time letting it go postflop. No matter who this is, if they call flop they are calling turn a lot. You have the nuts and are burning money not betting this turn. You can't complain about not beating 25nl and then posting hands like this where the only reason you get all his money is villain hits a hand and is an absolute retard. When you have a hand, just bet. Sorry for being a bit harsh here but you need to get this concept. You've heard it again and again and you continue to post hands where you've slowplayed the shit out of hands. Just stop slowplaying.

Just got back from a 3 month hiatus and started playing again. played 20 games of 18 and 9 man sngs up like 7 dollars. Yaaaay only dollar games mind.

Anyway is doing a mix of different size tables a bad thing?

How about playing 2 sngs and 1 table of cash at same time is that bad?

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Well. Of course I have to agree. But I just want to say I think it's been a really long time that I slowplayed a hand and had a good reason for it this time. And no matter what you say I felt it was the right move at the time. Against players who are less bad, you are right, but this guy was such an unbelieveable donk he was liable to bet his 23 even when didn't hit his low flush, which he did later on vs a different player. I really didn't think I was going to have a problem getting it in on river.

I could go over my recent hands and I'm pretty positive the only the times where I didn't bet bet bet but had a check in there or a check call is when I thought I wasn't winning or unsure.

It's good you're hard on me about this but I honestly think I haven't been doing it much lately...

omg video-making is tilting me so hard. Finally got it to produce without freezing like the millionth time and I find out that I initially was doing 6 tables and had been recording that area and that when I went to 4 and tiled those they went below the viewing area so you can only see the top half of the bottom tables. w/e I'll post it anyway when it's done uploading, just so tilting.

sick, just dropped out of uni for the year and starting fresh on a new course in september, that = a LOT of free time to rake in teh dough

lol dramaticchangeaments

Full Tilt poker game #10837588510: Table Mary (deep) - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:46:35 ET - 2009/02/25
Seat 1: Vinny_J1 ($204)
Seat 2: zachvac ($226.05)
Seat 3: BelgoSuisse ($225.40)
Seat 4: Vibhutipadah ($202.80)
Seat 5: TForce15 ($192.50)
Seat 6: Andreas1002 ($595.15)
Seat 7: balscent75 ($231.60)
Seat 8: nsrafk ($214.65)
Seat 9: vendet666 ($102), is sitting out
zachvac posts the small blind of $1
BelgoSuisse posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BelgoSuisse [8c Jd]
vendet666 has returned
Vibhutipadah folds
TForce15 folds
Andreas1002 folds
balscent75 folds
nsrafk folds
Vinny_J1 folds
zachvac raises to $4
BelgoSuisse calls $2
*** FLOP *** [Td 6d 6h]
zachvac checks
BelgoSuisse checks
*** TURN *** [Td 6d 6h] [2h]
zachvac bets $6
BelgoSuisse calls $6
*** RIVER *** [Td 6d 6h 2h] [9h]
zachvac bets $10
BelgoSuisse raises to $30
zachvac has 15 seconds left to act
zachvac has requested TIME
zachvac: sigh I'm gettig owed
zachvac folds
Uncalled bet of $20 returned to BelgoSuisse
BelgoSuisse mucks
BelgoSuisse wins the pot ($38)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $40 | Rake $2
Board: [Td 6d 6h 2h 9h]
Seat 1: Vinny_J1 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: zachvac (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 3: BelgoSuisse (big blind) collected ($38), mucked
Seat 4: Vibhutipadah didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: TForce15 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Andreas1002 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: balscent75 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: nsrafk didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: vendet666 is sitting out

switch0723 said:

sick, just dropped out of uni for the year and starting fresh on a new course in september, that = a LOT of free time to rake in teh dough

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damn man, gl! time for us to take over the poker world imo

According to PTR, zachvac is my best friend now...

http://www.pokertableratings.com/overview/belgosuisse

Caveat: most of it due to one hand with AA>KK.

combuboom said:

damn man, gl! time for us to take over the poker world imo

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yepyep, just wish it hadnt taken me like 5 months to realise computer science is the shittest course evar

BelgoSuisse said:

zachvac bets $10
BelgoSuisse raises to $30
zachvac has 15 seconds left to act
zachvac has requested TIME
zachvac: sigh I'm gettig owed
zachvac folds
Uncalled bet of $20 returned to BelgoSuisse
BelgoSuisse mucks
BelgoSuisse wins the pot ($38)

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Call because he's French (obv.)

c9h13no3 said:

Call because he's French (obv.)

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:rofl:

But he can't call, i'm raising for value here...

Btw, i'm only doing this because zach min-steals 100% from SB. Which is really good against people who don't adjust.