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WHY?!
 
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Can't say anything but .... "WOW"
 
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fold con AA

Hi, preflop if nobody goes all in to fold AA I think he's not on any poker table. Likewise, after seeing the flop, he did very well to fold. I always call, I would only think about it if someone goes there.
 
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I'm not a fan of AA, but it's a crime
 
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Satty?
 
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That was David Fishman playing on TV against stars (such as Phil Helmuth) on a show called the Big Game as the Loose Cannon.

Loose Cannons (amateurs) had to play strategically. They were given $100,000 to play against the pros for 150 hands and could keep their winnings. I do not recall the aces fold but David Fishman won enough during his game to lead the amateurs for much of the series. In fact he only 'lost' on the final show of the series when Bob Ferdinand won two huge hands to beat Fishman's total.
 
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DS3 said:
That was David Fishman playing on TV against stars (such as Phil Helmuth) on a show called the Big Game as the Loose Cannon.

Loose Cannons (amateurs) had to play strategically. They were given $100,000 to play against the pros for 150 hands and could keep their winnings. I do not recall the aces fold but David Fishman won enough during his game to lead the amateurs for much of the series. In fact he only 'lost' on the final show of the series when Bob Ferdinand won two huge hands to beat Fishman's total.


its eazy Allin preflop
 
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It is something very difficult to do, to mold AA preflop, I understand that in that game he retires because more than one player enters to play it which makes his chances lower, maybe if it is one against one he did not mold it, of course the flop did not It helped him and it seems that it was the best decision, without a doubt, it was.
On the other hand, I already saw several times some pro who anchor AA in bubble, it would have to be seen in what state of the tournament they were.
 
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He seemed to have a sense of losing with that hand so he avoided playing it
And actually he would have lost
 
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DS3 said:
That was David Fishman playing on TV against stars (such as Phil Helmuth) on a show called the Big Game as the Loose Cannon.

Loose Cannons (amateurs) had to play strategically. They were given $100,000 to play against the pros for 150 hands and could keep their winnings. I do not recall the aces fold but David Fishman won enough during his game to lead the amateurs for much of the series. In fact he only 'lost' on the final show of the series when Bob Ferdinand won two huge hands to beat Fishman's total.

darkhan160171 said:
its eazy Allin preflop


That was a Pot Limit tournament so no he couldn’t go all in
 
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maybe he's a psychic!
 
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What?? why?? Maybe he is care about some other guy...
 
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darkhan160171 said:
its eazy Allin preflop

Yes, where he would have lost and gone out of the series immediately instead of being the contender to win the whole thing until the final few hands of the final show. He's a maths teacher understood the odds and however nitty, folded, and it was the right decision.

The hand played out in front of you.
 
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If you see what about is the show.... it hapens, and if he play he lose that hand...
 
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Hello! I watched the video and honestly I don’t understand why he played like that, he should at least have seen the flop, but maybe he had such a strong intuition to fold AA, no matter how he was right. Best regards, Sergei.
 
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Nice fold
 
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That was his spike fold after that he was selected for the wsop main event
 
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DS3 said:
Yes, where he would have lost and gone out of the series immediately instead of being the contender to win the whole thing until the final few hands of the final show. He's a maths teacher understood the odds and however nitty, folded, and it was the right decision.

The hand played out in front of you.
Some don't like money, so they shove AA pre as they have no clue how to play it post flop.

:rofl:
 
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very difficult, but if you are not comfortable, this moment runs
 
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if a player folds AA in any circumstance it is better that he dedicates himself to something else and leaves poker there is no logical reason to fold AA in the Preflop, no matter the result of the hand it just does not make sense
 
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ChuckNola said:
That was a Pot Limit tournament so no he couldn’t go all in


Ок.. in such cases, it was the right decision. He saved money
 
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I think its embarrasing. But in poker everyone has the right to do what he or she wants and at least he had the balls to tell the others at the table that he had aces
 
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Sorry but I don't get that. Why preflop??

greatgame230 said:
if a player folds AA in any circumstance it is better that he dedicates himself to something else and leaves poker there is no logical reason to fold AA in the Preflop, no matter the result of the hand it just does not make sense



Agreed!
 
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This example looked good, the missiles themselves did not hit the stock. Against a random hand, we have about an 85% chance of winning, versus the 5% best starting hands - about 80%. In the worst case, we are eliminated from the tournament with a 20% probability and we won’t win anything. 80% of the time, you double your chips as well as your share of the prize pool. ChipEV and $ EV at the beginning of a big MTT change in the same way.
 
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