Hellmuth doesn't seem to understand that bluffing is part of playing poker

bwYs · Mar 13, 2013

He just can't accept that he lost again...

aa88wildbill · Mar 13, 2013

A lot of people forget, Phil is the one that stopped Johnny Chan for his third consecutive win for the world championship. And stopping the orient express is not easy to do.

FrankMStone · Mar 13, 2013

aa88wildbill said:
A lot of people forget, Phil is the one that stopped Johnny Chan for his third consecutive win for the world championship. And stopping the orient express is not easy to do.

I think people question his attitude, not really his feats or poker skills. But hey, if he is not humble better he doesn't fake it.

RichL · Mar 13, 2013

When Phil wins with a bluff he thinks he's the best player in the world and his opponent is a halfwit. When Phil loses to a bluff he the thinks he's the best player in the world and his opponent is a halfwit. Fun to watch him play either way.

PLAYINBIG · Mar 14, 2013

I wonder if Phil Hellmuth is Bobby Knight's #1 poker pro hero?I would bet the bank on it that he is.

needaGF · Mar 15, 2013

Well I believe Phil Hellmuth is the greatest tournament player. Just look at all his wsop bracelets.

But he is not that good at cash games. Antonio Esfandiari, Tom Dwan, Daniel Negreanu ... A couple of players are better than him.

WeenieSVK · Mar 15, 2013

I must say that I really dont like Hellmuth... That first link which you posted is one of my favorite hands at all

I love especcially how terribly Hellmuth played it on flop.. That his check was completely like "ok I had AQ or AK but I missed that flop as you can see"

wushuguy · Mar 15, 2013

RickAversion · Mar 23, 2013

Another bitter reaction, even though he was beat with a pocket pair. Notice what he says about n00b players.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEYXfI6HxlM

BluffYou123 · Mar 23, 2013

Ladybugger said:
Another bitter reaction, even though he was beat with a pocket pair. Notice what he says about n00b players.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEYXfI6HxlM

That's a pretty cruel way to bust. Think he took it fairly well considering how he reacts other times. That tourney has a fast blind structure too if I remember correctly so you can't really blame him for being a bit pissed off.

iWinSometimes · Mar 25, 2013

U hate him because ur jellows idiots. The man is the best and he gets pissed off after playing hands perfectly... they got lucky and bad beat him.

// I fell like I'm the unluckiest person in the whole world! How have I lost all those hands in arow. against 9% WTF. Impossivel to build a bankroll if they always hit turn or river in the big hands!

smidjet · Mar 25, 2013

seems strange to me that after all this time he has not figured out that it is what it is and just play the next one without making it personal. that was like the first thing my dad taught me

RickAversion · Mar 29, 2013

Yet another blow up. This guy is just something else....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtbkbhkJBqs

moots · Mar 29, 2013

Ladybugger said:
Notice what he says about n00b players.

Maybe I missed it, but what did he say about noobs?

Vyp3r_MI · Mar 30, 2013

Phil Hellmuth is a great NLHE player, one of the best in the world if you ask me but he is too emotional. Sometimes you get beat by a runner-runner straight or some weird backdoor gutshot or something, that's poker.

RickAversion · Mar 30, 2013

How does Phil have 13 WSOP bracelets, yet has only won the main event once in 1989? Does a bracelet just mean you got to the final table?

RickAversion · Mar 30, 2013

mootso said:
Maybe I missed it, but what did he say about noobs?

See 3:07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEYXfI6HxlM

Marginal · Mar 30, 2013

Ladybugger said:
How does Phil have 13 WSOP bracelets, yet has only won the main event once in 1989? Does a bracelet just mean you got to the final table?

Side events. The WSOP isnt just the main event, each year they have multiple other events, different games, different buy ins etc.

moots · Mar 30, 2013

Ladybugger said:
See 3:07
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEYXfI6HxlM

"I flopped a full house and I'm out. So sick. The rest of these players are on 4's, 5's, 7's, 8's and 9's. I flopped a full house and I'm out."

He talking about the people at the table winning with low pairs and him losing with a fh. What's wrong with that?

SicKBeATz · Mar 30, 2013

It's his image. He does this to tilt bad players and get them to play hands they shouldn't against him.

How many "noobs" at the table do you think want to bad beat the great Poker Brat. Pretty good image if you ask me, getting players to put their chips in behind trying to get lucky.

So I bet most of it if not all of it is just an act. He's a smart enough player to realize that luck is a part of the game.

ROOKMAN · Mar 30, 2013

If all of his blowups are an act, he should move to acting and make even more money. No way those are an act. He is a great player but also a jerk.

Kenzie 96 · Mar 30, 2013

Ladybugger said:
How does Phil have 13 WSOP bracelets, yet has only won the main event once in 1989? Does a bracelet just mean you got to the final table?

Well, at least this question splains the original post.

SicKBeATz · Mar 30, 2013

ROOKMAN said:
If all of his blowups are an act, he should move to acting and make even more money. No way those are an act. He is a great player but also a jerk.

I didn't mean all of his blowups are an act just that he does it purposely to gain an edge. He says what a lot of ppl feel when they get a bad beat, but alot of plays he complains about are pretty standard and he plays some hands the same exact way.

Do you think he's really berating players b/c he's mad at how they played a hand everytime? Nah he's using his image to his advantage to get lower level players to make a mistake against him.

RickAversion · Mar 31, 2013

Can you imagine how Phil would have reacted if he lost to Moneymaker's 45 in the 2003 WSOP winning hand?
It is this sort of wild play that will catch the pros with their pants down!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMd72-h8N4g&t=2m30s

Poker Orifice · Mar 31, 2013

Ladybugger said:
It is this sort of wild play that will catch the pros with their pants down!

Right! Cuz da proz only play top10 hands pre & are real tight but'll call off 200bb's with TPTK &/or Overpair.

da Proz can't think on multi-levels & they don't adjust to others on da table ever.

Hellmuth doesn't seem to understand that bluffing is part of playing poker

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