killercon said:
I've been playing poker since the early 1980s live. I played online early in the 2000s. But now I feel that online poker is rigged. I've never seen the action that happens online and the losing hand somehow always win n it's the the guy that doesn't know what he doing calling all in with guy shots n getting there calling all ins with bottom pair n happens to get trips on river. I've had monsters flops just to get river to someone with 2 outer. I wouldn't say anything if it only happened the 9% or 18% of the time that it should but it happens like 75% of the time. Like I said been playing poker for o we 40 yrs and the shit I've seen these past 2 months are unreal. And it's always to a player that doesn't know what there doing. I think they can see what's coming and your hole cards. Believe what I say online is total bullshit.
Rowdy Greg said:
I know - it does happen a lot! But for it to be rigged there would have to be some order or reason to it all. There doesn't seem to be - just a LOT of hands that go the wrong way. That's the reason I won't put much money into it. I'm tired of doing everything right and still losing frequently to a wild card.
I do lose when I make mistakes, and those are fair. I lose with most flips. Those ARE flips so losing most of them is probably on the outer edge of fair, but still possible. But consistently losing with 75 - 98% odds depletes your bankroll pretty quickly and isn't worth topping up.
AQA272 said:
modern online poker is an algorithm for generating rake .To invest more than 100 usd in this is simply suicide...If it is appropriate to talk about this type of investment at all
GL!!!!
It doesn't connect much to the topic, but basically I recognized, see the same changes compare to the 12-15 years ago online poker. (and Feb&March were terrible for me, too...) Doesn't matter which room I am playing. Obviously the ps is out totally, probably there are the most players, but that is the worst in this case.... totally insane, unreal. However I saw similar things in all rooms, obviously, it is not about 'the game changed' or anything like this, you don't play against simply the opponents, you play against the software, rng and the operator company, as i also can't believe, it is not a set up, like a physical slot machine, you can set it up by your preferences.
I spent long weeks back in the time, try to understand how the most profitable players can be the winners, when they play too often without odds, so long term, like 2-5K+ tourneys, they definitely should be the biggest losers, meantime not, they are the top 1%. So obviously, they know something. I played for few weeks just the 2-4 tourneys in the same time, so by using a HUD had time for checking the hands back all the time, and found out some strange combination of poker,
blackjack card counting and applying the few 'bad beat, once in a lifetime' rng trends - what happens montly, anyway - and the result was pretty impressive, it is not something what works all the time, but when it does, it flies me to the last 1-3 tables at least, often top 3 and the
real money is there...
One strange thing about HUDs, just recognized now about 2 hud softwares - looks like, it is by purpose, i just cant decide, it is the rooms or the hud developers -, some hands just randomly missing from my tourneys, often the last one, what 70-80% of the time, I lose at least 70-75% preflop, flop - whenever the allin goes - chance for me, so when i see my winning rate by given cards - mostly talking about monsters - and it shows around average, it is at least 5-10% downer in reality. so it is useless, even worse, as it confuse me to the wrong direction.... Took time, wrote emails backed up facts, screenshots etc. to hud owners, developers, sellers No answer from Petrograd........
Otherwise, playing some cg and blackjack, that's really just waste of time and money for me, agree, an algorythm for rake, profit generating...
So because of the above things - and not because i dont trust in online rooms, obviously I dont trust in any online - even live, if it includes money, and what doesn't... -, but there are plenty other reasons... - I try to keep always just the minimum neccessary amount on my account in the rooms, so when a crazy run comes, or the days, weeks long 'bad beat' series makes me nuts, and go tilt, lose less, easier to say enough, I can make the small deposit again, and start again. in this way, i am more profitable, than any other, what i've tried....
Anyway, 14-5 years ago, wasn't important to take attention for things like this (okay the online poker world was at least double, that counts, too), I followed my rules more or less and could make a stable profit on my level in any rooms, what i have choosen to play.... once again, sure, not the game's changed, numbers are still numbers, can't change the meaning....
