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blankoblanco · Jan 10, 2009

i never thought about it that way

Chris_TC · Jan 10, 2009

I'm confused. Can someone explain in more detail plz?

Richyl2008 · Jan 10, 2009

Heres my favoritest advice ever:

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/cash-game-hand-analysis-50/25nl-fr-kk-overpair-vs-flop-132358/

I thing he is not with set and he confidence isn't with flush drow (unless he hold top pear and flush drow).
May be he hold a top pear ... something like A9s, K9s, 9T.
I thing you must push him on the river.

BelgoSuisse · Jan 10, 2009

switch0723 said:
[X] what is on the board is also on the board for him

on the other hand, if you don't feel like sharing, you can always play stud.

eNTy · Jan 10, 2009

Chris_TC said:
I'm confused. Can someone explain in more detail plz?

You should read up on Bunny Flop Poker, not until you have mastered that theorem can you begin to tackle this problem.

bubbasbestbabe · Jan 10, 2009

eNTy said:
You should read up on Bunny Flop Poker, not until you have mastered that theorem can you begin to tackle this problem.

Does bunny flop poker have anything to do with bunny flops?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bunny Flop

BelgoSuisse · Jan 10, 2009

Dream flop, then ... Raising river might have been a bit of spew here. Still up 3 buy-ins for the day so far, so no big deal, i guess

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP2 with 6

6

2 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, 3 folds, SB calls $3, BB folds

Flop: ($8) 6

Q

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5, SB calls $5

Turn: ($18) K

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $13, SB calls $13

River: ($44) 7

(2 players)
SB bets $30, Hero raises to $78.50 and is all-in, SB calls $48.50

Results: $201 pot ($3 rake)
Hero showed 6

6

(a full house, Sixes full of Queens) and lost (-$100 net)
SB showed K

Q

(a full house, Queens full of Kings) and won $198 ($98 net)

eNTy · Jan 10, 2009

bubbasbestbabe said:
Does bunny flop poker have anything to do with bunny flops?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bunny Flop

Not unless you want to go broke with BB special !

BelgoSuisse · Jan 10, 2009

bubbasbestbabe said:
Does bunny flop poker have anything to do with bunny flops?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bunny Flop

How on earth do YOU know that expression? Not ever a problem for you, isn't it?

Irexes · Jan 10, 2009

This week has been good

finally understood some concepts and as a result my playing of the turn with draws has been transformed.

Engage doomswitch..

eNTy · Jan 10, 2009

BelgoSuisse said:
How on earth do YOU know that expression? Not ever a problem for you, isn't it?

She knows the UrbanDictionary by heart obv.

The Shrog · Jan 10, 2009

fwiw, I like your play throughout the entire hand, Belgo.

bubbasbestbabe · Jan 10, 2009

BelgoSuisse said:
How on earth do YOU know that expression? Not ever a problem for you, isn't it?

It always pays to know what your opponents are up too.

Richyl2008 · Jan 10, 2009

Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: Maximilian91 ( $28.15 USD )
Seat 2: brebiou ( $25.70 USD )
Seat 3: ACES_J0E#2 ( $26.45 USD )
Seat 4: NorthPaddler ( $31.00 USD )
Seat 5: muck__you123 ( $32.50 USD )
Seat 6: Boef666 ( $14.25 USD )
Boef666 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
Maximilian91 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
NorthPaddler posts big blind [$0.35 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to muck__you123 [ Ac Qc ]
brebiou folds
ACES_J0E#2 folds
NorthPaddler checks
muck__you123 raises [$1.35 USD]
Boef666 folds
Maximilian91 folds
NorthPaddler calls [$1.10 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kc, Jd, Th ]
NorthPaddler bets [$1.00 USD]
muck__you123 raises [$3.50 USD]
NorthPaddler calls [$2.50 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3d ]
NorthPaddler bets [$5.00 USD]
muck__you123 raises [$27.65 USD]
NorthPaddler calls [$21.05 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 3h ]
NorthPaddler shows [2d, 9d ]
muck__you123 shows [Ac, Qc ]
muck__you123 wins $59.25 USD from main pot
muck__you123 wins $1.60 USD from main pot

Chris_TC · Jan 10, 2009

nh Rex!

BelgoSuisse said:
Dream flop, then ... Raising river might have been a bit of spew here.

River shove is fine imo.

NineLions · Jan 10, 2009

jgmotorfan said:
your not in a premium hand
you should have not been messin around wit that small bet if you geta raise get out you are still playin 4-10
what is on the board is also on the board for him

combuboom said:
you should write a book

no wait, i meant read. you should read a book

combu, you just moved to number 3 spot for me of best quotable posts. Behind Rex and FP.

Richyl2008 · Jan 10, 2009

philthy said:
About 1400 hands, $7.08 in profits or 12.90/100. Stats so far: 15/9/4.4 ...Pretty insignificant since its for such a small amount of hands, but I dont like how low my PFR is. I want to get somewhere around 15/12 - 17/13 or higher; I want 'aggressive reg' stats by the time i hit 25K hands.

For 2nl full ring I think 15/9 is perfectly fine. In fact I think it will work better than a 17/13 style at this limit, at least it did for me IMO

blankoblanco · Jan 10, 2009

i'm honored, NL

aliengenius · Jan 10, 2009

I iz awesome at da pokaz:

Seriously, how is it possible to lose at this level when I'm playing 18.27/12.98/2.91-- wtf, too loose?

BelgoSuisse · Jan 10, 2009

aliengenius said:
Seriously, how is it possible to lose at this level when I'm playing 18.27/12.98/2.91-- wtf, too loose?

What is this 18.27-12.98 = 5.29% of hands that you limp or flat? You really shouldn't use the call button that much.

Also, attempt to steal is really low.

EDIT: And you need to learn how to run good. 4BB/100 below EV is brutal.

blankoblanco · Jan 10, 2009

definitely not loose for 6max. too tight if anything. definitely not a big enough sample to draw any conclusive opinions about your results, but it's enough to solidify your actual tendencies

your attempt to steal blinds should be much higher. i'm pretty confident that over 35% is optimal. mine is usually 40+. attack more from the btn and co imo. playing raised pots in position vs. tards is nice and a lot of times you'll take it down uncontested preflop

i also think you're defending your BB a bit light. defending a quarter of the time is just too much. you're most likely putting yourself in some situations that are just guaranteed to be unprofitable from the start, out of position with deep stacks without initiative in the hand with something marginal. mess around with your HEM/PT filters and look at how much you're making or losing with certain hands from certain positions

basically be more aggressive in position and tighter out of position. sounds pretty basic i know but i think that'd fix a lot. still those aren't even huge leaks compared to what you'll come across. i'd guess you're running on the bad side situationally as well? gl, turn it around

cAPSLOCK · Jan 10, 2009

Good lord... a guy makes a fairly decent point (if a little badly typed) about being careful when your rags hook up somewhat on the flop from a BB special and the whole damn lot of you tear him to shreds.

FWIW I think he makes a good point.

If you get in a pot with T4o and make trips against someone who hangs in with you you have to consider the fact that not only do you have a crappy kicker, but you might be up against someone with a made hand that might even impove.

Sure it was a lame break for the shrog, and i might have called there too. But the advice was right and this wasn't a bad beat.

Anyway... if you're gonna treat the new member like shit, then go ahead a badmouth me too, because I think he was right...

Over and out for January....

BelgoSuisse · Jan 10, 2009

combuboom said:
your attempt to steal blinds should be much higher. i'm pretty confident that over 35% is optimal. mine is usually 40+.

I'm pretty sure i've watched stoxpoker coaches who believe 99% would still be too tight from the BTN.

Actually, while it's certainly -EV against competent players, it's a very good exercise to open 100% from BTN and see where it leads you. And as long as they don't start 3betting you light, it's such a pleasure to play so many hands in position.

blankoblanco · Jan 10, 2009

in what universe is what he wrote a decent point? it was incoherent and there was no point. at what juncture in the hand did the shrog "mess around" with a little bet? he bet almost pot and then slightly over pot where he'll be getting looked up by tons of worse hands. villain started the hand with $1.95 for christ's sake! 1/5th of a stack. the hand plays itself and it was a bad, empty post on his climb to reach 50 or whatever the requirement is

The Shrog · Jan 10, 2009

Sure it was a lame break for the shrog, and i might have called there too. But the advice was right and this wasn't a bad beat.

Anyway... if you're gonna treat the new member like shit, then go ahead a badmouth me too, because I think he was right...

I was only humoring the fact that shortstacks seem imposssssssible to beat. I was in the BB, saw a free flop and turn, and 2-outer comes. It wasn't a BBV, more light humor for this particular thread.

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