*** January's Juxtaposed Pokahz Chat ***

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  • #851
combuboom said:
also, donkaments. donkaments are amazing (essential, probably) for the poker economy when you think about it

And i 100% agree with this. If i had the mental fortitude to withstand the huge variance, disproportionate beats (ie. the amount a key hand potentially costs you in relation to your buy in) you have to take, and the huge volume you have to get in to reach any sense of "long term", grinding MTTs would be very profitable i think.

I haven't played an MTT in absolutely ages and i never did play many at all, but just playing some of the 11$R tournaments on stars, the quality of play there is absolutely beyond atrocious. I was absolutely shocked at the amount of dead money in those tournaments. It seems to me that fish are alot more likely to blow $50 on a tournament to "have a shot" or "for some fun", than they are likely to blow alot in a cash game (tho ofc it happens in cash, it just seems like 80% of <$50 buy in MTT are like this). The amount of fish in MTTs is absolutely mind boggling, and, therefore, they should be very profitable. Not only that, it is so easy to learn basic push/fold crap, that imo it really is not difficult to get pretty good at tournaments pretty fast (course i am biased towards cash).

Also, again, maybe it is just me, but i find it pretty easy to play long hours if doing tournaments/sngs, but playing long hours in cash is absolutely draining (ie. i can't do it).
 
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  • #852
did anyone else just start lagging like unfathomable hell on stars or is it just me?
 
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  • #853
I just bought HEM Pro, woot woot
 
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  • #854
Also, again, maybe it is just me, but i find it pretty easy to play long hours if doing tournaments/sngs, but playing long hours in cash is absolutely draining (ie. i can't do it).

I'm exactly the opposite. I can sit forever at cash tables, but tournaments bore the hell out of me. Maybe its b/c i never multi table them heavily like i do when playing cash games.
 
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  • #855
1 tourney + 6 cash is the perfect balance for the first 3 hours of a tourney I reckon. After that start cutting down the cash tables as you start to focus more. I do this for anything <$100 buy-in, over that I still like 100% focus.
 
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  • #856
combuboom said:
did anyone else just start lagging like unfathomable hell on stars or is it just me?

so just me then? cut my session off because i couldn't stand it =/
 
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  • #857
combuboom said:
so just me then? cut my session off because i couldn't stand it =/

its because ur bad at poker
 
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  • #858
sorry i cant hear you over all this money i'm winnin
 
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  • #859
i can't hear you because eli sucks bawlsack
 
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  • #860
haha carney sucks, missed another FG
 
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  • #862
Finally Im back at University all set up, but for some reason AIM wont work so looks like im stuck with MSN for now!

Hopefully get a session in later.

So do you think it will become harder to win money playing online regarding jagsti and zach's earlier comments or will it not affect the game for a number of years yet?
 
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  • #863
6 max players - what your standard play when you sqz from the sb/bb, with a mediocre hand against a TAG whose att to steal is 30+% and he flats. Flop is dry, no A/K? chk/fold, bet/fold?
 
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  • #864
Jurn8 said:
Finally Im back at University all set up, but for some reason AIM wont work so looks like im stuck with MSN for now!

Hopefully get a session in later.

So do you think it will become harder to win money playing online regarding jagsti and zach's earlier comments or will it not affect the game for a number of years yet?

I think we'll be ok for a few years yet :)
 
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  • #865
standard would be to c-bet for sure. a good part of what you're repping consists of big pairs, might as well keep the pressure on considering they can flat sort of wide in position

only if i get a 4bet flatted would my standard usually be to check and give up. true for both 6max and FR
 
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  • #866
Standard = Squeeze, fire 3 barrels.
 
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  • #867
I read the board and thought, well there's no way he's connected there :)

PokerStars Game #23811022088: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2009/01/11 19:39:21 ET
Table 'Liriope' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: curtisjames7 ($73.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Irexes ($135.70 in chips)
Seat 6: Optikbaskan ($102.30 in chips)
Seat 7: ON EMPTY ($102.90 in chips)
Seat 8: x--SoSick--x ($10 in chips)
Seat 9: wookington ($44 in chips)
curtisjames7: posts small blind $0.50
ajrhodes: is sitting out
Irexes: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Irexes [As Ac]
Optikbaskan: folds
ON EMPTY: folds
x--SoSick--x: folds
XtremeFly has returned
wookington: raises $3 to $4
XtremeFly leaves the table
curtisjames7: folds
Irexes: raises $6 to $10
starsljazer joins the table at seat #1
wookington: raises $6 to $16
Irexes: raises $40 to $56
wookington: calls $28 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($12) returned to Irexes
*** FLOP *** [6d 3s 5d]
*** TURN *** [6d 3s 5d] 5♥
*** RIVER *** [6d 3s 5d 5h] 8♣
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Irexes: shows [As Ac] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
wookington: shows [Qs 5s] (three of a kind, Fives)
wookington collected $85.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
 
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  • #868
Any fans of 24 taking a break here in a few minutes?
 
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  • #869
No spoliers plz, starts in UK tomorrow night, thanks.
 
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  • #870
Planning to CRAI on flop but he checked back. So I shoved turn. Figure Kx, maybe even like 77-JJ (QQ+ probably 4-bets pre, possibly JJ too) along with hopefully a flush draw call. figure I'm going broke to A3/A7+ either way here, may as well do my best to get value from worse. I love fish :).

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players

BTN: $118.40 (59.2 bb)
SB: $200 (100 bb)
Hero (BB): $212.05 (106 bb)
CO: $208.40 (104.2 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with 6
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A
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CO folds, BTN raises to $6, SB folds, Hero raises to $24, BTN calls $18

Flop: ($49) K
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3
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A
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(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($49) 7
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(2 players)
Hero bets $95, BTN calls $94.40 and is all-in

River: ($237.80) 9
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(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $237.80 pot ($2 rake)
Hero showed 6
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A
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(a pair of Aces) and won $235.80 ($117.40 net)
BTN mucked J
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K
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(a pair of Kings) and lost (-$118.40 net)
 
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  • #871
Wow it feels like its been weeks since i had a winning day. (3 weeks ish :) )

The week break has done wonders. + winning the $3 CC donkament for another $80, and -$30 or so on other donkaments. Oh and a bouns clearance.
 

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So I was playing my normal 25nl 6-max and there was some guy playing like 92/72. I lost a little more than a stack to him where I have 9Tc on a JcJs8c 9d Qd board and of course he flips over pocket 8s. Then I won a stack back where we were all in pre, me with 99 and him with K10o and luckily my 9s held. Then he lost a few pots to other players and left, so I searched for him again and he had moved to a 100NL FR table, so I followed him even though $100 is like 1/4 of my BR and then this hand happened.

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HAND #1
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Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

SeanyJ24: $119.70 (119.7 bb)
siIver11: $30 (30 bb)
The_LateShow: $100 (100 bb)
MrBrancato: $24.10 (24.1 bb)
Rusty Nails: $100 (100 bb)
captainkegg: $113.70 (113.7 bb)
mzoitas: $133.25 (133.3 bb)
LaJune: $95 (95 bb)

Pre-Flop: SeanyJ24 is CO with K
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A
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2 folds, mzoitas raises to $4, LaJune folds, SeanyJ24 raises to $14, 3 folds, mzoitas raises to $24, SeanyJ24 raises to $119.70 and is all-in, mzoitas calls $95.70

Flop: ($240.90) A
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Q
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J
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(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($240.90) 7
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(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($240.90) K
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(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $240.90 pot ($3 rake)
mzoitas showed Q
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K
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(two pairs, Kings and Queens) and lost (-$119.70 net)
SeanyJ24 showed K
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A
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(two pairs, Aces and Kings) and won $237.90 ($118.20 net)

So yeah, that's a nice little boost to my bankroll :p
 
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  • #873
Well, I'm finally back down to earth. Thought maybe I could run good forever, guess not :)

In other news, this month sucks :mad:
 

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  • #874
lol chuck, sick.

How did everyone go in sundays big tourneys?
 
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Well, I'm finally back down to earth. Thought maybe I could run good forever, guess not :)

In other news, this month sucks :mad:

Damn, 4k downswing sucks :(
 
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