Lets Talk About LUCK !!!

In my opinion in poker luck is a big factor . If you are a cash player and play lots of hands luck is not that important , if u are a solid player and play abc , luck should not be that important , but if you are playing tournaments and lets say you are on final table and all players have an average of 10-15 blinds , luck is a big factor .

i would rather be good than lucky...your only lucky here and there but when your good well that last forever and the odds ae in your favor

I often get lucky, but for the most part experience and skill play a big role. Many novice players use luck in freerolls and believe that poker is a game of luck. But you may be lucky today and not lucky tomorrow, it is always uncertainty. So, we see variance in the game. But all the failures are compensated by a good game.

Anyone With Any Brains Understands...

Luck is a part of this game. That does not mean that skill is of no significance.

If Luck was not part of the the game, Hellmuth would win every game, right Phil?

Luck will average out over the long run. For good players vs good players, it will average out. For good players vs bad players, it will average out. This is as long as the stakes for each game remain constant. If so, the Bottom Line is that better players will win in the long run.

Where the variance comes in is when you are playing above your normal range (i.e. - Bigger Than Your Normal Buy In Tournament). The "normal amount of luck inherent in the game" will have a ENORMOUS IMPACT on the PLAYERS IMPACTED! This can be extremely good, or disastrous!

Anyway, that is my opinion on luck in poker... gotta run, I am off to the roulette Table, lol!

Best of Luck at The Tables All!

CheezeWiz

luck in poker is also important. players who know how to overcome tilt will always be more successful than those who cannot handle tilt and variance. But you can't rely only on luck. train your game and play it right.

Of course luck is fundamental in poker, the hands that I have lost that one looks at them and says you cannot lose with these hands, and the fish entering with 2-7 calls and wins you but one as a player also has to beat that fate of the speaker. In short, I am one of those that poker is rather study, study and study.

Hi all!

Perhaps we generate luck with good energy, studying, pushing it, making luck appear. Similar to the concept that we are creators of our reality, I don't know if it would apply to online poker.

Thanks friends CC

poker-wise, luck is just another word for probabilities...sometimes you're the dog, sometimes you're the tree. But if you know the game a bit, you can make probabilities ( Luck, surely...ed..) work with you.

may the farce be with ya

Freepokerfree said:

Perhaps we generate luck with good energy, studying, pushing it, making luck appear. Similar to the concept that we are creators of our reality, I don't know if it would apply to online poker.

Thanks friends CC

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i agree with this 100%....positive energy...

white magic as hellmuth would say...a bit of study does no harm either...

we do indeed create our own reality...if we are strong enough

I believe that luck is the main component of poker, without it it is impossible to win a tournament.

19aleks57 said:

I believe that luck is the main component of poker, without it it is impossible to win a tournament.

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This is just simply not true. Phil Hellmuth JR doesn't have 15 bracelets because he's the luckiest player on the planet. Chris Mooreman isn't an online crusher because he's the luckiest guy to sit behind a pc screen. Winners in this game dont win because they're luckier than other players...they win because they have an edge!

Players who are unwilling to accept the reality of the situation or to put in the hard work it takes to get/stay good at poker will find a crutch with the word "luck" and they will praise it when they win a tournament here or there and they will blame it when they bust on the money bubble or deep in a run.

Luck is nothing more than variance to me...and variance is a normal part of the game. If I won every single time I got it in with AK vs QJ or AK vs AT then the bad players would quickly go broke, stop playing and make the game significantly less profitable. Poker is all about making the correct decisions and following good strategies with cold hard math. I win lots of pots im not supposed to because of a number of things. I know which cards are good bluff cards, I know how to range my villans, I know how to squeeze villans hand ranges, etc. I shovel my money in as much as possible when I am as large a favorite as the situation may dictate -- the runouts and the results are beyond my control and I dont sweat it when my AAs lose to JTs or AQo -- it doesn't matter because I am printing equity in that spot and will win the long term which is all I tend to care about.

One day makes no difference - I busted every single MTT I played yesterday without a single cash and I dont care. It means NOTHING. A bad week means nothing, a bad month is generally nothing!! When you think about poker in the "long term" - if you've been playing online for 5 years (60 months) and you had 4 months that were unprofitable and now you're on. 2 month swing....so what?? That means that even in your current state you are up 54 months over that course of time! So two months should mean absolutely nothing to you because you play well enough to push through it. Not to mention most players don't put in the proper volume to overcome variance - you need to play roughly a minimum of 100 MTTs per month to help fade variance -- i do more than this working a full time job so its definitely possible if you are dedicated enough to do it.

Tons of variables interfere with whether or not we win tournaments. Normal variance is bad enough on its own - but playing in massive fields only increases the variance we are to face throughout so good game selection is KEY! Id rather play an $11 game with $800 up top and 500 entrants rather than play a $5 game with $1300 up top and 1600 entrants. Im going to cash/win the $11 game more often because the field is just smaller - and if i have the same edge in both fields, than I would have yo fade 3x the variance to win the $5 game. There are variance calculators online that will tell you how often you are going to win a tournament based on field size and your ROI% and a few other factors...you would be shocked if you use them.

Anyhow...poker is basically unwavering cold hard math - if you get your money in as a significant favorite over and over and over the majority of the time you are playing - then you will eventually win. It is inevitable because it is math and numbers do not lie.

Winning pots you are not supposed to win + getting your money in good = long term success.

In the words of Matt Affleck - "do you know the best way to preserve your tournament life? Keep accumulating chips!"

Luck is the best! I can totally see why it's often referred to as a women--lady luck. Such a seductive, beautiful, sexy mistress. She's not always on our side but if we play well she should be with us more often than not. That's what the math says anyway.

In poker, luck is only meaningful in the short term. Over the long term, luck balances out and the better player always takes the money.

No matter for good or bad, it is the almost impossible one in any situation. And when it happens it is luck.For sure!

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You just need to play well and be less susceptible to variance. You need to turn yourself into a machine that executes certain algorithms that are mathematically correct from the point of view of poker. If this were possible, I would have long been a millionaire.

What is luck?

Luck is chance. Good luck on the tables and as always have fun hope everyone is keeping safe

What is luck

Luck is chance. Know your skill lie on luck you can't lose good luck on the tables everyone and as always have fun

I do not think that is so much about luck. I used to play poker in a casino and i had noticed a middle aged person who was playing blackjack like he was talking to the cards. You should have seen him .I can not explain it with words , but the most of the times he was making the right decision. I do not think that he would have the same talent if he was playing poker , though

Yes, yes, there is no doubt that luck must accompany you because it is partly a game of chance, then strategy and your knowledge, but do not doubt the luck factor that greatly influences this game.