Logic or intuition?

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  • #51
Intuition may be a mystical skill. Probably using the body reading of the opponents, it is practical to use intuition, but in an online game that no player can see his opponents it is more difficult to use the intuition.
 
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  • #52
:cool: I think it is a little more logic than intuition, even though poker is a game of statistics and strategies, I think logic will always prevail, this question is very good and interesting, poker has a combination of both parties.

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  • #53
Hello, both logic and intuition are necessary in the game, for me, you will already know when to apply each one ,,, logic and mathematics in the long term give you results but there are moments of play that my intuition has made me play even so without having the best hand and won ... some will say that it is luck but each one with their thoughts :cool:
 
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  • #54
Hi, I think that intuition is nothing more than the correct use of information, the rival may have certain bet sizes, he says (if it is played live), ranges that we identify according to the situation, positions and all data that may be useful.
 
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  • #55
Myself I play on intuition :p
But is probably smarter to play with logic
now and then anyways ,,logic will get you bluffed out of the pot to much if u ask me
 
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  • #56
poker is logical, but we should use our intuition to help
 
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  • #57
for me i think its a mix of both but maybe i am more intuitive but i dont know if i am good with it though
 
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  • #58
Everything is a complement, that does not mean that by missing one of these, or not having the same perception that the opponent leaves you at a disadvantage, everyone makes mistakes, it is only a matter of time until he does.
 
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  • #59
Yes

I always play with intuition! stranger but I always feel that I must go and I must run!
 
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  • #60
You must master the logic first and then add the intuition. Intuition is just an addition to logic. With logic and without intuition you can get somewhere but intuition without logic takes you to the exit door.
 
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  • #61
I think my friend is just like that. Someone plays by intuition .. sometimes she really doesn’t deceive ... but there is a feeling that right now you will win. But suddenly intuition let you down .. and sometimes intuition works one hundred percent. .. it seems to me that it is more correct and smarter to play after all according to the strategy, otherwise it is unrealistic to win ... although it happens that someone is just wildly lucky. without intuition and without any strategy.
 
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  • #62
Definitely, logic is first of all, and only in a controversial issue it is already worth using intuition. If you can actually hear yourself correctly, then your intuition will not let you down.
 
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  • #63
Serg77 said:
Doyle Brunson, lane Flack, and some other great players were intuitive geniuses, a kind of "artists at the poker table." They have the same natural sense of play and extraordinary ability to read their opponents that Stu Ungar had
(Alan Schoonmaker, YourWorstPoker Enemy).


It seems that you can study rules, strategies, money management and everything except intuition. It's something like a gift from nature.

Is it possible to play successfully with strategy and statistics skills while not having intuition? And how can you develop your intuition?



The simple answer is play thousands of games, and millions of hands, Intuition comes with practice and developing a gut feeling about a certain way your opponent plays at you. I was involved early on in a Tourney with Ace/Ten suited and was raised pre-flop so obviously I wanted to see the flop, so I called a 3x bet.
The flop gave me top pair with nothing else so I checked and Villain bet into me (continuation bet) I naturally called and the turn didn't make any difference to the hand, so I checked again, and again Villain bet out at me about half pot, so I called again. The River was an awkward card that could have created a straight but he would have had to be playing 7/4 to have made his hand. I checked again and immediately he shoved all-in.
Now I was stunned! Why go all-in if he hadn't made the nuts? I thought about the hand and remembered he Raised pre-flop so could not possibly be raising with a hand like 7/4, there were no flush possibilities, and the only thing I could think of was he raised with a pocket pair and had made Trips? Or had he? after I had thought about it the only thing that could beat me is if he had made trips or two pair, So reluctantly I called. Pocket Kings was all he had and I took him out there with my top pair of Aces.
Call it Intuition or just a gut feeling. I just did not believe the hand he was trying to sell me. Sometimes you need to rely on your gut feelings or Intuition to make the right decisions, and that only come with time.

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  • #64
luck, institution, patience, are fundamental
 
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  • #65
I believe a part of intuition comes from practice and experience, so it will slowly come to you. It's a mix of everything. 9 out of 10 times a skilled poker player will beat a rookie with great intuition in general. Some achieve intuitive skills fast, other take years to refine.
 
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Serg77 said:
Doyle Brunson, lane Flack, and some other great players were intuitive geniuses, a kind of "artists at the poker table." They have the same natural sense of play and extraordinary ability to read their opponents that Stu Ungar had
(Alan Schoonmaker, Your Worst Poker Enemy).


It seems that you can study rules, strategies, money management and everything except intuition. It's something like a gift from nature.

Is it possible to play successfully with strategy and statistics skills while not having intuition? And how can you develop your intuition?
Greetings. I am using a translator. Intuition largely depends on our experience and our knowledge. Acquiring certain skills, it doesn't matter in which area you intuitively begin to lift in which direction to move. Where to do and where to stop. The more information you have the better you will cope with the task. The rest will ask how he knows what to do. The doctor determines the cause of the disease with the help of knowledge and experience, one might say intuitively. So intuition can and should be developed. I advise everyone to do this. You already know how to do it yourself))) at the level of intuition ...))) Monitor your health, exercise, be picky about food. The stronger and healthier your body and organism are, the better your head will work and the higher your intuition. As far as I know, the right hemisphere of the brain is responsible for intuition, so it is necessary to pump this part of the brain. It is useful for the right brain hemisphere to make creativity, love, and this is not the whole list. Study your body. Be happy friends. I wish you success.
 
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Serg77 said:
Is it possible to play successfully with strategy and statistics skills while not having intuition? And how can you develop your intuition?

Like many mentioned, I think you will develop your intuition with time, after studying the game and after facing the same spots many times, after going through thousands and thousands of hands you will naturally make decisions based on your experience, I guess a lot of people confuse experience with gut feeling or intuition
 
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  • #68
i think if you follow the game, your intuition comes
 
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First, I think everyone on this community knows that live poker and online poker are 2 different things; online, if you study enough and play GTO you can be successful at least until mid stakes(cash, mtts, sngs); but (IMO) if you want to be 'the best' than you'll need something extra - you can call it intuition/ talent or something like that and you'll need it both online and live(more for the later one)...

GLGL all at the tables BlessRNG
 
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  • #70
I think this intuition thing is pushed up. You see on YT only the hands, where it worked fine and they made a marvellous call or laydown. These guys played millions of hands and I don't want to know, how often they lost their whole stack to their intuition.
 
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  • #71
First, you learn the rules of poker. Then you study strategy. You begin to see and understand how to play with different hands. And in order to play intuitively, you need the same logic. :angel:
 
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  • #72
Luck trumps both!
 
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  • #73
A gift I don't have, most don't..

This institution, the gift, to see what others don't, maybe the normal player can develop a fraction of. But a full-on, pro-level, intuition, it's a_level professional stuff. Like in sports, most people max out in little league, high school, maybe college, same with poker.
We can develop our games, to a point. I know I don't have the gift of intuition, so I play withing my abilities.
 
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  • #74
While I think that both are important, I think that logic wins out over 80% of the time when comparing the two. It seems like the player that win time and time again use more logic than intuition.
 
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  • #75
Intuition is part of knowledge. I can only use the two together.
 
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