*****(Loose) Aggressive April Chat Thread*****

dsvw56

dsvw56

I'm a Taurus
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 7, 2008
Total posts
1,716
Poker Chips
0
Casino Coins
0
  • #1,651
Dave Bush has a no-hitter going through 7 vs. the Phillies. GOGOGOGOGO!!!!
 
Jurn8

Jurn8

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Jul 3, 2008
Total posts
5,348
Poker Chips
0
Casino Coins
0
  • #1,652
dsvw56 said:
pretty much what I told you in the micro's thread. Basically, stop being such a nit. Att. to Steal below 30% is a major leak, imo. And at 50NL FR, I don't think there's any reason it should be below 40%.

I think you'd benefit greatly from playing some 6-max for a while. Work on your postflop skills and playing a more positional game since most FR players play pretty solidly pre-flop but are abysmal postflop.

yeah thought I would get more opinions aswell :D

Yeah im not too good postflop tbh, I will give all these points a real crack and try and open up.
 
Jurn8

Jurn8

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Jul 3, 2008
Total posts
5,348
Poker Chips
0
Casino Coins
0
  • #1,653
bw07507 said:
Higher steal, fold to less flop cbets, 3bet more, WTSD% is low hence why u are winning 57% of showdowns. WTSD should be higher and W$SD should be slightly lower. W$WSF is pretty low.

A little confused here how do I fix this part?
 
BelgoSuisse

BelgoSuisse

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Nov 26, 2007
Total posts
9,218
Poker Chips
0
Casino Coins
0
  • #1,654
Jurn8 said:
A little confused here how do I fix this part?

don't let people bluff you that much
 
B

bw07507

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Jan 8, 2007
Total posts
2,219
Poker Chips
0
Casino Coins
0
  • #1,655
A little confused here how do I fix this part?

Call down lighter vs the more aggro players, probably value bet a little bit thinner than you currently are. Basically looks like you are getting pushed off some good hands with showdown value.
 
dsvw56

dsvw56

I'm a Taurus
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 7, 2008
Total posts
1,716
Poker Chips
0
Casino Coins
0
  • #1,656
Jurn8 said:
A little confused here how do I fix this part?


Stop automatically putting people on a set every time they raise?
 
Jurn8

Jurn8

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Jul 3, 2008
Total posts
5,348
Poker Chips
0
Casino Coins
0
  • #1,657
bw07507 said:
Call down lighter vs the more aggro players, probably value bet a little bit thinner than you currently are. Basically looks like you are getting pushed off some good hands with showdown value.

dsvw56 said:
Stop automatically putting people on a set every time they raise?

BelgoSuisse said:
don't let people bluff you that much

these are all true lol especially DSVW's lol
Value bet thinner so I get people to call more on the river right?
Is this basically in position more right??
I think I could take a lesson from belgo and his red line :D make a vid man !!!

I will try thanks guys, but you three are very aggro solid players its going to take alot of hard work to become solid but also aggro.
 
S

switch0723

Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 2, 2007
Total posts
8,430
Poker Chips
0
Casino Coins
0
  • #1,658
well as fun as this was, lets start making some money now please :)
 

Attachments

  • session updates.jpg
    session updates.jpg
    53.4 KB · Views: 4
B

bw07507

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Jan 8, 2007
Total posts
2,219
Poker Chips
0
Casino Coins
0
  • #1,659
Nice work switch. 100NL is really not that much different from 50NL, so if you were good there, there should be nothing stopping you from being good at 100NL. Just dont get FPS. Pretty much all the regs play totally straightforward poker. If they raise you, they have the nuts.
 
eNTy

eNTy

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 22, 2007
Total posts
6,936
Poker Chips
0
Casino Coins
0
  • #1,660
Don't lie, it wasn't fun switch :<
 
Jurn8

Jurn8

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Jul 3, 2008
Total posts
5,348
Poker Chips
0
Casino Coins
0
  • #1,661
oh and BW, article on 3bet pots :)
 
Deltafrost

Deltafrost

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Feb 25, 2008
Total posts
457
Poker Chips
0
Casino Coins
0
  • #1,662
so pissed right now...7 hands on a donk, hes open shipped all of them. stacked my kk and my AK in 2 hands, limp/calls my btn raise, i flop top set he flops str8.


F THIS GAME SOMETIMES!
 
B

bw07507

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Jan 8, 2007
Total posts
2,219
Poker Chips
0
Casino Coins
0
  • #1,663
oh and BW, article on 3bet pots :)

I'm so busy. Doubt I will even be playing poker in the next few days. Have a presentation due tomorrow, 10 page paper and 5 page paper due next monday, final wednesday, and another presentation on next friday. I will write it sometime though, dont worry.
 
eNTy

eNTy

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 22, 2007
Total posts
6,936
Poker Chips
0
Casino Coins
0
  • #1,664
You call that busy ?!
 
Jurn8

Jurn8

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Jul 3, 2008
Total posts
5,348
Poker Chips
0
Casino Coins
0
  • #1,665
bw07507 said:
I'm so busy. Doubt I will even be playing poker in the next few days. Have a presentation due tomorrow, 10 page paper and 5 page paper due next monday, final wednesday, and another presentation on next friday. I will write it sometime though, dont worry.

shite sorry dude, I forgot your on the brink of graduation. No worries concentrate on your studies BW. GL with it hope it all goes well
 
Jagsti

Jagsti

I'm sweet enough!
Silver Level
Joined
Feb 18, 2007
Total posts
5,478
Poker Chips
0
Casino Coins
0
  • #1,666
Jake, the boys have made some very good points about your stats, and you should look at what their saying and try to fix these leaks. But there is a caveat here. You have to balance it a little. Don't start calling down all value bets too light and with too high a frequency as you will find yourself coming unstuck. The majority of times you have been folding, you probably have made a good read, so just don't get too carried away with it. Make gradual changes and you will start to recognise the spots were calling down lighter is warranted.
 
Last edited:
Jurn8

Jurn8

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Jul 3, 2008
Total posts
5,348
Poker Chips
0
Casino Coins
0
  • #1,667
totally agree Jay, just going to have to try and pick correct spots and try some villians I spose.
I will take little steps towards this rather than trying to fix it at once, hope I can see results/rewards within the next few weeks.
 
kleitches

kleitches

Visionary
Silver Level
Joined
Mar 23, 2008
Total posts
982
Poker Chips
0
Casino Coins
0
  • #1,668
bw07507 said:
I'm so busy. Doubt I will even be playing poker in the next few days. Have a presentation due tomorrow, 10 page paper and 5 page paper due next monday, final wednesday, and another presentation on next friday. I will write it sometime though, dont worry.

lol college kids
 
eNTy

eNTy

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 22, 2007
Total posts
6,936
Poker Chips
0
Casino Coins
0
  • #1,669
I might just be results orientated, but it's ok to stack here right ?
(generally I make my 3bets 1 BB bigger oop, but I was wondering if it's ok to just make it 3x with AA. Don't think it will make much of a difference though.)
Villain is sort of a tag reg.

UTG+1: $7.32 (29.3 bb)
UTG+2: $12.11 (48.4 bb)
MP1: $25.77 (103.1 bb)
MP2: $25 (100 bb)
MP3: $26.84 (107.4 bb)
CO: $27.66 (110.6 bb)
BTN: $9.90 (39.6 bb)
Hero (SB): $39.22 (156.9 bb)
BB: $11.62 (46.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with A:heart: A:spade:
3 folds, MP2 raises to $1, 3 folds, Hero raises to $3, BB folds, MP2 calls $2

Flop: ($6.25) Q:heart: J:heart: 9:heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $4, MP2 raises to $22 and is all-in, Hero calls $18

Turn: ($50.25) T:club: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($50.25) 6:club: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $50.25 pot ($2.51 rake)
MP2 showed Q:club: Q:diamond: (three of a kind, Queens) and won $47.74 ($22.74 net)
Hero showed A:heart: A:spade: (a pair of Aces) and lost (-$25 net)
 
F

feitr

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Feb 8, 2008
Total posts
1,570
Poker Chips
0
Casino Coins
0
  • #1,670
Jurn8 said:
sorry for crosspost but stats analysis please, any major holes you can see?

what are you double/triple barrell stats? Kinda looks like you cbet then give up alot as W$WSF is far far too low and W$SD is too high (WTSD is a little low so you are probably playing a little weak tight, since high W$SD/WTSD tends to indicate that you don't call down quite enough). Agg% is quite low as well, which may indicate you go into c/c mode a little too much.

Also in 50nl FR you can steal so much (to the point that you would be completely exploitable) vs the right players coz nobody knows how to play back against it. When i played 50nl FR i stole >40% *i think* and i *think* i stole like 60% from sb vs bb (which is SUPER exploitable vs a competent opponent, but these are few and far b/w @ 50nl). iirc i was actually a winner from sb as a result. Playing unbalanced and exploitable is most profitable at microstakes as the players can't adjust correctly, so don't worry too much about having "correct stats". Do what works.
 
blankoblanco

blankoblanco

plays poker on hard mode
Silver Level
Joined
May 16, 2006
Total posts
6,129
Poker Chips
0
Casino Coins
0
  • #1,671
eNTy said:
I might just be results orientated, but it's ok to stack here right ?
(generally I make my 3bets 1 BB bigger oop, but I was wondering if it's ok to just make it 3x with AA. Don't think it will make much of a difference though.)
Villain is sort of a tag reg.

UTG+1: $7.32 (29.3 bb)
UTG+2: $12.11 (48.4 bb)
MP1: $25.77 (103.1 bb)
MP2: $25 (100 bb)
MP3: $26.84 (107.4 bb)
CO: $27.66 (110.6 bb)
BTN: $9.90 (39.6 bb)
Hero (SB): $39.22 (156.9 bb)
BB: $11.62 (46.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with A A
3 folds, MP2 raises to $1, 3 folds, Hero raises to $3, BB folds, MP2 calls $2

Flop: ($6.25) Q J 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $4, MP2 raises to $22 and is all-in, Hero calls $18

Turn: ($50.25) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($50.25) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $50.25 pot ($2.51 rake)
MP2 showed Q Q (three of a kind, Queens) and won $47.74 ($22.74 net)
Hero showed A A (a pair of Aces) and lost (-$25 net)

yeah, definitely fine to stack here. even against top set you're getting about the right price, and he could have some hands you crush like KxKh, TxTh, KhQx, maaybe AQ (but that'd be kind of spewy since he can't have a heart)
 
eagle jim

eagle jim

Visionary
Silver Level
Joined
Mar 10, 2008
Total posts
758
Poker Chips
0
Casino Coins
0
  • #1,672
Back to the manual transmission vs automatic.....I had to ditch my manual for an automatic...kept dropping my mouse and folding my good hands while shifting........pokering in atlanta traffic is the nutz!!!!
 
Jurn8

Jurn8

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Jul 3, 2008
Total posts
5,348
Poker Chips
0
Casino Coins
0
  • #1,673
feitr said:
what are you double/triple barrell stats? Kinda looks like you cbet then give up alot as W$WSF is far far too low and W$SD is too high (WTSD is a little low so you are probably playing a little weak tight, since high W$SD/WTSD tends to indicate that you don't call down quite enough). Agg% is quite low as well, which may indicate you go into c/c mode a little too much.

Also in 50nl FR you can steal so much (to the point that you would be completely exploitable) vs the right players coz nobody knows how to play back against it. When i played 50nl FR i stole >40% *i think* and i *think* i stole like 60% from sb vs bb (which is SUPER exploitable vs a competent opponent, but these are few and far b/w @ 50nl). iirc i was actually a winner from sb as a result. Playing unbalanced and exploitable is most profitable at microstakes as the players can't adjust correctly, so don't worry too much about having "correct stats". Do what works.

feitr, I was just talking about this to enty, I really dont know when to pick spots to double/triple barrell probably because its not good at the micro's but does have some merit at the low stakes.
Also I usually play the 50BB min tables but was on a sweat with Enty and the other normal tables seem so much softer and i can steal/3bet more there in the future I think so I will play these more now.
How do I find out my double/triple barrell stats?
 
dsvw56

dsvw56

I'm a Taurus
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 7, 2008
Total posts
1,716
Poker Chips
0
Casino Coins
0
  • #1,674
Jurn8 said:
feitr, I was just talking about this to enty, I really dont know when to pick spots to double/triple barrell probably because its not good at the micro's but does have some merit at the low stakes.
Also I usually play the 50BB min tables but was on a sweat with Enty and the other normal tables seem so much softer and i can steal/3bet more there in the future I think so I will play these more now.
How do I find out my double/triple barrell stats?

This is a start. Just unzip and add it to the Reports folder in your HEM folder. Then you can add C-bet% and C-bet Success % for each street, and then filter for various things.
 

Attachments

  • cbetstrategy.zip
    485 bytes · Views: 1
F

feitr

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Feb 8, 2008
Total posts
1,570
Poker Chips
0
Casino Coins
0
  • #1,675
Jurn8 said:
How do I find out my double/triple barrell stats?

Well i just have it in my HUD as turn cbet% and river cbet%
 
Top