*****(Loose) Aggressive April Chat Thread*****

[Tygran]

PLO is tilting me to no end right now....

people don't fold anything and I haven't had a draw hit in 2 hours

 

[eNTy]

people don't fold anything and I haven't had a draw hit in 2 hours

As far as I hear it, that's pretty standard. PLO players who have some notion of what they are doing are famous for fading a zillion % of equity.

How nice of him not to reraise the nuts.

SB: $25.85 (103.4 bb)
BB: $6.90 (27.6 bb)
UTG+1: $5 (20 bb)
MP1: $5.50 (22 bb)
MP2: $50.10 (200.4 bb)
MP3: $21.55 (86.2 bb)
Hero (CO): $26.05 (104.2 bb)
BTN: $20.95 (83.8 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is CO with 4:spade: 4:club:
3 folds, MP3 calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, SB folds, BB checks

Flop: ($1.10) 5:spade: T:heart: 3:heart: (4 players)
BB checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($1.10) 7:club: (4 players)
BB checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($1.10) 4:diamond: (4 players)
BB checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets $0.80, BTN calls $0.80, BB folds, MP3 folds

Results: $2.70 pot ($0.10 rake)
Hero showed 4:spade: 4:club: (three of a kind, Fours) and lost (-$1.05 net)
BTN showed A:heart: 2:spade: (a straight, Ace to Five) and won $2.60 ($1.55 net)

 

[bw07507]

5bet flop bluff shove ftw

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

UTG: $101.50 (101.5 bb)
UTG+1: $100 (100 bb)
MP1: $48.70 (48.7 bb)
MP2: $101.50 (101.5 bb)
MP3: $111.05 (111.1 bb)
CO: $100 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $256.90 (256.9 bb)
SB: $110.75 (110.8 bb)
BB: $157.30 (157.3 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with 8

K

6 folds, Hero raises to $3, SB folds, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) J

J

5

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises to $9, Hero raises to $25, BB raises to $47, Hero raises to $253.90 and is all-in, BB folds

Results: $100.50 pot ($3 rake)
Hero mucked 8

K

(a pair of Jacks) and won $97.50 ($47.50 net)

 

[Jurn8]

LOL + set under set! Yay to April's first session

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

SB: $31.60 (63.2 bb)
BB: $40.20 (80.4 bb)
UTG+1: $48.85 (97.7 bb)
MP1: $51.85 (103.7 bb)
MP2: $50.35 (100.7 bb)
MP3: $53.35 (106.7 bb)
Hero (CO): $50 (100 bb)
BTN: $103.65 (207.3 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is CO with A:club: A:diamond:
UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, 3 folds, MP1 calls $3, MP2 folds

Flop: ($8.25) 5:diamond: K:club: 8:spade: (2 players)
MP1 bets $2.50, Hero raises to $8.50, MP1 calls $6

Turn: ($25.25) 3:heart: (2 players)
MP1 bets $15, Hero raises to $38 and is all-in, MP1 calls $23

River: ($101.25) 8:diamond: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:[spoil] $101.25 pot ($3 rake)
MP1 showed 8:club: A:heart: (three of a kind, Eights) and won $98.25 ($48.25 net)
Hero mucked A:club: A:diamond: (two pairs, Aces and Eights) and lost (-$50 net)
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[eNTy]

WTH do you do with your converter fonts every time ?

A8os is obv good like 80% of the time on that flop imho.

 

[Tygran]

As far as I hear it, that's pretty standard. PLO players who have some notion of what they are doing are famous for fading a zillion % of equity.

oh i know it's a much swingier game than HE....

but i "should" (ie my expactation) would have had me hit a few of those draws i've had... that doesn't change. just crappy cards.

Gets kinda tilting the 5th time you have a 15 out draw, pot it twice, it doesn't come in and you lose to TPTK (equally as tilting because TPTK is calling down and still can't beat it)

 

[SeanyJ]

I love playing against people who don't know you can see mucked cards.

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HAND #1
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Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

Hero (BB): $62.20 (124.4 bb)
SB: $58.85 (117.7 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with K:spade: A:spade:
SB raises to $2, Hero raises to $7, SB calls $5

Flop: ($14) K:club: 7:club: 3:heart: (2 players)
Hero bets $9, SB calls $9

Turn: ($32) 5:diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $16, SB calls $16

River: ($64) K:diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets $27, SB calls $26.85 and is all-in

Results: $117.70 pot ($0.50 rake)
Hero showed K:spade: A:spade: (three of a kind, Kings) and won $117.20 ($58.35 net)
SB mucked A:heart: 7:diamond: (two pairs, Kings and Sevens) and lost (-$58.85 net)

SeanyJ24 said, "You done?"
O ZZI SAN said, "what you got be4?"
O ZZI SAN said, "had AA"
SeanyJ24 said, "when"
O ZZI SAN said, "the game with all in"
SeanyJ24 said, "I had AK"
O ZZI SAN said, "damn nice"

 

[eNTy]

I love playing against people who don't know you can see mucked cards.

O ZZI SAN said, "what you got be4?"
O ZZI SAN said, "the game with all in"

Apparently he also doesn't know you can see the winning hand

 

[Jurn8]

What goes around comes around IMO 31/11/2 Mo Fo!

oker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

UTG+1: $90.95 (181.9 bb)
MP1: $43.95 (87.9 bb)
MP2: $50 (100 bb)
MP3: $116.40 (232.8 bb)
CO: $53.60 (107.2 bb)
BTN: $50.20 (100.4 bb)
Hero (SB): $50.25 (100.5 bb)
BB: $9.25 (18.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with K:spade: K:heart:
UTG+1 raises to $2, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $2, MP3 folds, CO calls $2, BTN folds, Hero raises to $8, BB folds, UTG+1 raises to $29, 2 folds, Hero raises to $50.25 and is all-in, UTG+1 calls $21.25

Flop: ($105) T:club: J:spade: Q:club: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($105) 9:spade: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($105) T:spade: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:[spoil] $105 pot ($3 rake)
Hero showed K:spade: K:heart: (a straight, Nine to King) and won $102 ($51.75 net)
UTG+1 showed A:diamond: A:heart: (two pairs, Aces and Tens) and lost (-$50.25 net)
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[tenbob]

OMG I really hate party poker. Took 1K hands on nl$50 for a grand total of 51 party points. I really hate party poker. Oh well 49 more before I pwn Irexes heads up for a wsop me package.

 

[eNTy]

OMG I really hate party poker. Took 1K hands on nl$50 for a grand total of 51 party points. I really hate party poker. Oh well 49 more before I pwn Irexes heads up for a wsop me package.

Lol I hear that, and that's like the least of the things that tilted my ass off party. Did you at least make lots of dolla dolla holla in those 1k hands ?

 

[Irexes]

OMG I really hate party poker. Took 1K hands on nl$50 for a grand total of 51 party points. I really hate party poker. Oh well 49 more before I pwn Irexes heads up for a wsop me package.

 

[SeanyJ]

Oops!

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HAND #1
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Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

BB: $54.70 (109.4 bb)
Hero (SB): $50.25 (100.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with A:spade: K:diamond:
Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $5, Hero raises to $14, BB raises to $33, Hero raises to $50.25 and is all-in, BB calls $17.25

Flop: ($100.50) 3:spade: Q:diamond: Q:heart: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($100.50) K:club: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($100.50) K:spade: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $100.50 pot ($0.50 rake)
BB showed A:heart: A:club: (two pairs, Aces and Kings) and lost (-$50.25 net)
Hero showed A:spade: K:diamond: (a full house, Kings full of Queens) and won $100 ($49.75 net)

HU is fun.

 

[feitr]

Hiya, have a couple of questions from ppl playing on "different sites" (ipokers, chuck plays prima?, zach plays UB?) How active are the HU tables there from nl200-nl1k? How good are the players at nl200+? I've decided that i am not going to play higher than nl1k, and will focus on playing 2 sites, anything from nl400-nl1k HU...so i need one more site to play. My default is pokerstars, but i won't get any rakeback there and the games aren't exactly poor compared to other sites. FT is a no-go since i can't get rakeback there and i hate them so much now i wouldn't even take it if given. One other thing to consider is that ipoker/prima, etc have higher rake for HU i think, so the games would have to be fairly weak to justify going there instead of pokerstars since 0 rakeback @ 50c rake = 50% rakeback @ $1 rake in midstakes. Also just out of curiousity, since i haven't really been keeping up with much poker-related lately, what ended up happening with UIGEA?

OMG I really hate party poker. Took 1K hands on nl$50 for a grand total of 51 party points. I really hate party poker. Oh well 49 more before I pwn Irexes heads up for a wsop me package.

Party poker isn't bad once you get 200nl and above. Lots of reload bonuses/no deposit bonuses/promotions. I've pretty much had a constant stream of bonuses since i've played there, and if you get 5k points a month you are "guaranteed" 30% rakeback, which is pretty good and in reality should be substantially more than that since you can run your "big bonus" from your points for half that that which i think releases at >40% rakeback at like nl400 (and mb nl200). It is good for HU at least.

 

[The Shrog]

Playing HU all month is going to be fun

Poker Stars, $11.50 Buy-in (50/100 blinds) NL Hold'em Tourney, 2 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

Hero (SB): 2,020 (20.2 bb)
BB: 980 (9.8 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with A

A

Hero completes, BB raises to 980 and is all-in, Hero calls 880

Flop: (1,960) T

2

9

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (1,960) 2

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (1,960) 6

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: 1,960 pot
BB showed T

A

(a flush, Ace high) and won 1,960 (980 net)
Hero showed A

A

(two pairs, Aces and Twos) and lost (-980 net)

Still managed to beat him

 

[tenbob]

..

 

[KingCurtis]

1k cash for me tonight or something's wrong

 

[pantin007]

1k cash for me tonight or something's wrong

we have faith in you, gl

 

[feitr]

vanq how do you deal with minraisers hu

min raising can become pretty good once the other guy is stuck a bit (so can limping button), coz he will start 3Bing light way too much trying to get deep, often won't make it regular size 3B, so you get to play in position for cheaper than a normal 3B vs a poor hand range against a guy who is often tilting somewhat. As to what you should do depends almost completely on metagame and how villain plays postflop.

Have to ask yourself why is he minraising? If villain is bad and is min raising with the intent of calling a 3B, then you can 3B the wide top of your range flat with the middle and fold rest. Just adjust accordingly. But if villain is good and is doing it to mess with you then again you have to adjust properly. So don't 3B like crazy if he is a good hand reader and you are somewhat deep coz you are just going to get in big pots with shit hands and you will be constantly getting owned coz your hands are bad. I don't treat min raising as that much different than a standard open anymore, except i call wider from the BB since it is cheaper obv.

Got to completely conquer tilt if you want to be a decent HU player tho...easily the biggest thing imo. Not even crazy monkey tilt, but removing that creeping sense of frustration that clouds your hand reading/decision making and allows you to see game flow for what it actaully is, not what your "omg this ****ing idiot can't have it again" tilt center is telling you to do.

 

[bw07507]

Apparently I have turned into an FPP pro

 

[KingCurtis]

imediate fistpump/snap call when he pushed on river

Stacks:
MP2 with 3000
CO with 2990
BTN with 2970
SB with 2980
BB with 3030
UTG with 2940
UTG+1 with 3000
MP1 with 3090

Blinds: 10/20
Site: Pokerstars
Dealt to MP2:5♣ 5♠
Sklansky group 6
Preflop:
1 players fold.
UTG+1 calls [20]
1 players fold.
Hero calls [20]
CO calls [20]
BB: checks
2 players folded.
Total folds this street: 4
Potsize: 90
Flop:
5♦ 5♥ Q♥
BB: checks
UTG+1: checks
Hero bets [60]
2 players fold.
CO calls [60]
2 players folded.
Total folds this street: 2
Potsize: 210
Turn:
A♦
Hero bets [200]
2 players fold.
CO calls [200]
Potsize: 610
River:
7♣
Hero bets [940]
CO raises 1770 to 2710 [ all-in ]
Hero calls [1770]
Results:
CO shows two pair, Aces and Fives:
6♥ A♥
Hero shows four of a kind, Fives:
5♣ 5♠
Hero collected 6030 from pot

 

[switch0723]

OMG Feitr has returned, <3, where ya been

Poker has gotten hard


Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

MP1: $77.40 (154.8 bb)
MP2: $36.45 (72.9 bb)
Hero (MP3): $66.10 (132.2 bb)
CO: $48.60 (97.2 bb)
BTN: $41.35 (82.7 bb)
SB: $44.50 (89 bb)
BB: $33.65 (67.3 bb)
UTG+1: $50 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP3 with J

J

UTG+1 folds, MP1 raises to $1.50, MP2 calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, CO folds, BTN raises to $4, 2 folds, MP1 calls $2.50, MP2 calls $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

Flop: ($16.75) 3

5

J

(4 players)
MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $37.35 and is all-in


This however makes me feel like a mini BW

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

CO: $50 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $51.95 (103.9 bb)
SB: $62.35 (124.7 bb)
BB: $34.70 (69.4 bb)
UTG+1: $12.25 (24.5 bb)
MP1: $98.95 (197.9 bb)
MP2: $50 (100 bb)
MP3: $50 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with T

8

4 folds, CO raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $5, 2 folds, CO raises to $11, Hero raises to $24.50, CO folds

Results: $22.75 pot
Hero mucked T

8

(high card Ten) and won $22.75 ($11.75 net)

 

[Jurn8]

One of the funniest hands I have played in a long time, check the min raises out !

I think it was BW who said that people dont like to be minraised back when they min raise you so it was fun to do with the nuts!

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

Hero (BTN): $58.55 (117.1 bb)
SB: $116.20 (232.4 bb)
BB: $58.90 (117.8 bb)
UTG+1: $70 (140 bb)
MP1: $31.90 (63.8 bb)
MP2: $42.95 (85.9 bb)
MP3: $50.75 (101.5 bb)
CO: $50 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with A:heart: Q:heart:
2 folds, MP2 calls $0.50, MP3 folds, CO raises to $2.50, Hero calls $2.50, 2 folds, MP2 calls $2

Flop: ($8.25) J:heart: 6:heart: 8:heart: (3 players)
MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero bets $4, MP2 raises to $8, CO folds, Hero raises to $12, MP2 raises to $16, Hero raises to $20, MP2 raises to $40.45 and is all-in, Hero calls $20.45

Turn: ($89.15) 4:heart: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($89.15) K:diamond: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:[spoil] $89.15 pot ($3 rake)
MP2 showed 8:diamond: 8:club: (three of a kind, Eights) and lost (-$42.95 net)
Hero showed A:heart: Q:heart: (a flush, Ace high) and won $86.15 ($43.20 net)
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[switch0723]

bw, what happened between hands 20k and 20.5k?

 

[feitr]

OMG Feitr has returned, <3, where ya been

Lots of school. Played a bit in Feb. but only played 6k hands in March. Also had alot of sick losing days over the last 2 months (maybe 4 >-$1500 days), which sort of sapped any desire to play, although i think i ended up +$5k up over 20k hands for the 2 months which is fine by me for that little volume. I'm not sure why, but i hardly ever have losing days; however, when i do holy **** it can get bad (and i am really good at tilt control now...not so good at stopping when stuck i guess).