***March Megalomania Poker Chat Thread***

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  • #251
You obviously had JsTs and he was making a crying call

he also knew you were going to hit it on the river since he checked the turn
 
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  • #252
lol was having a decent session to start then just ran worse than imaginable. Villains just always had the goods, pissed me off so much. Ah well from +4 buy-ins to -1 on the day in like an hour at 200nl :(.

edit: and on top of them having the goods 99% the other 1% they sucked out as I was like 500 below ev. Ah well still above ev on the month though just barely now.
 
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  • #253
can't touch this na na na na na

Full Tilt, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

BTN: $131 (65.5 bb)
SB: $99 (49.5 bb)
BB: $68.05 (34 bb)
UTG+2: $250 (125 bb)
MP1: $74 (37 bb)
MP2: $215.25 (107.6 bb)
Hero (MP3): $203 (101.5 bb)
CO: $308.25 (154.1 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP3 with 6
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6
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3 folds, Hero raises to $7, CO calls $7, 3 folds

Flop: ($17) Q
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3
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3
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(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $12, Hero calls $12

Turn: ($41) 7
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(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $24, Hero calls $24

River: ($89) 7
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(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $66, Hero calls $66

Results: $221 pot ($3 rake)
CO showed 5
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4
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(two pairs, Sevens and Threes) and lost (-$109 net)
Hero showed 6
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6
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(two pairs, Sevens and Sixes) and won $218 ($109 net)
 
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  • #254
switch0723 said:
kaiser cheifs really are awsome live, their old stuff > new stuff though. Did The Black Kids sing 'Not going to teach him how to dance with you' or something along those lines, coz i despise that song

Yeah live they are something else probally my best concert experience and I have seen a bands I like more. Black kids singer got a little drowned out but they did play that song. they were not horrible or anything.

Anyway does anyone know why Stars stop their sngs 3 hrs before they restart server? They could get at least a few more before then of the smaller tables done.
 
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  • #255
combuboom said:
can't touch this na na na na na

you're such a calling station...
 
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  • #256
I am quite possibly the worst HU Stud player in the world
 
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  • #257
Is it possible that I on a downswing since the beginning of January 2009 ?
This is probably over ~30k hands.

I have some trouble blaming it all on variance and runbad when I seem to just lose time and time again.

I am sure there are hands in there where I spazzed out, although I thought I had that part of my game pretty well controlled recently and taken care of.

What am I supposed to do now ?
 
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  • #258
eNTy said:
Is it possible that I on a downswing since the beginning of January 2009 ?
This is probably over ~30k hands.

Can we see graph with all-in EV, SD, NSD lines ? Also, set% and QQ+,AK % ?
 
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  • #259
eNTy said:
Is it possible that I on a downswing since the beginning of January 2009 ?
This is probably over ~30k hands.

BelgoSuisse said:
Can we see graph with all-in EV, SD, NSD lines ? Also, set% and QQ+,AK % ?

You might as well throw in the "Is this my own damn fault?" line. :p

(Mine has been stuck up at the top recently.)
 
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  • #260
The thing with extended downswings is this. if you crush your level like BW does for instance, your downswings will actually be periods of being break-evenish, and your upswings will mean crushing the tables for 10+ BB/100.

If you are barely beating your limit, then you will indeed have extended swings of going up or down. So while experiencing an extended downswing may be primarily because of running bad, there are certainly things in your game that can be improved to make things better.

BTW, if you look at the graph here: https://www.cardschat.com/forum/poker-goals-challenges-wins-46/ , i was very much not crushing the game at 25nl and the beginning of 50nl and was experiencing extended up and downswings for the first 80k hands.
 
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  • #261
Zach, I used to play 200nl there but tbh, the money is too much for me and out of my BR. I can't play my A game at that limit, so Ive played a lot of limit poker at TS, which is incredibly soft. Btw, what is the structure like for the tournament? Usually it's just completely awful, as you start with 80 BBs and it's a shove fest after the first hour.
 
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  • #262
sigh, i tunes is being teh suck and wont let me download 'Jizz in my Pants'
 
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  • #263
eNTy said:
Is it possible that I on a downswing since the beginning of January 2009 ?
This is probably over ~30k hands.
30K hands? Not possible imo.

 
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  • #264
eNTy said:
Is it possible that I on a downswing since the beginning of January 2009 ?
This is probably over ~30k hands.

I have some trouble blaming it all on variance and runbad when I seem to just lose time and time again.

I am sure there are hands in there where I spazzed out, although I thought I had that part of my game pretty well controlled recently and taken care of.

What am I supposed to do now ?

35K hands since Jan 1st, and I just hit break even yesterday evening. Then I stopped because well, I needed to celebrate.
 
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  • #265
Switch: youtube jizz in my pants + download youtube downloader.

Belgo: no I can't :(
my pc broke down 2 weeks ago, still hasn't been fixed and I have a feeling windows will be gonna reinstalled as well and I'll lose the ~80k hands database.

I have about 20k hands since 17 February all 25nl, graph below.
As you can see my red line is super huge and blue line goes to hell. This is true for my whole database. Red line straight up, blue line straight down.
 

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  • #266
Ok, I appreciate that you guys have had far worse things to deal with.

But I am not breakeven over 100k hands at 50nl+.
I'm losing at 8 BB/100 at the quarter which is supposed to be pretty beatable by a half thinking player right ?
 
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  • #267
Blue and red are style dependent. There's always a certain equilibrium between the two.

Also, you shouldn't look at your graph in $$ unless these are all the same stakes.
 
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  • #268
I have no idea how to judge a graph that's in big bets/blinds ..
 
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  • #269
The Shrog said:
Zach, I used to play 200nl there but tbh, the money is too much for me and out of my BR. I can't play my A game at that limit, so Ive played a lot of limit poker at TS, which is incredibly soft. Btw, what is the structure like for the tournament? Usually it's just completely awful, as you start with 80 BBs and it's a shove fest after the first hour.

Well it's 40 minute levels with 15k starting chips. I think it says it's 25/50 to start so 300 BBs.
 
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  • #270
Just done a survey for stars and theyre giving me 300 fpp's for doing it :D 210 fpp sattelite here i come lol
 
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  • #271
If you play anything like I played enty when I started out, you're seeing too many showdowns, bluffing in bad spots, and you assume people have air in their range too often. Yeah, you'll see hand histories where regs call down with 2nd pair for 3 streets, but its really not a standard play.

A massively -$ showdown line usually indicates that you're seeing too many showdowns or bluffing too much. I have a feeling that in your case, its a combination of both.
 
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  • #272
I think you're close c9.
I am known for giving my opponents not enough respect for a hand I think. Trying to blow them off hands where it's clearly not going to work and I shouldn't even be doing it in the first place.

My AF is insanely high for this limit probably: AF 5.12 Agg%: 38.6
WTSD: 26 W$SD: 42.2.

How do I fix this, I feel like I've been doing this for my whole poker career :x
 
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  • #273
eNTy said:
I have about 20k hands since 17 February all 25nl, graph below.
As you can see my red line is super huge and blue line goes to hell. This is true for my whole database. Red line straight up, blue line straight down.

Talking of style things. Prior to December, my cash games graphs would look like, red line going down, SD winnings going in a mirror like image upwards, and my winnings line +ve. To remedy my NSD winnings dropping like a lead balloon, I tried to adjust it and since January, It's like my graph has been turned upside down. My red line has gone up, my SD winnings have gone -ve and now my winnings have gone -ve as well. It seems I'm calling down to light and seeing slightly more SD's than I used to. I used to be in the region of 27%, but now I'm more in the region of 30-31%. This factor alone seems to be killing my winnings line.

But when I have looked at some hands that I look up on the river, I was ahead and betting agressively, but they then catch there card on the turn or river. When I would usally fold the river, now I'm calling and it's totall f'kin frustrating how often they seem to hit.

So it's something I need to look at and try to sort out, coz it's messing with my head!
 
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  • #274
eNTy said:
I think you're close c9.
I am known for giving my opponents not enough respect for a hand I think. Trying to blow them off hands where it's clearly not going to work and I shouldn't even be doing it in the first place.

My AF is insanely high for this limit probably: AF 5.12 Agg%: 38.6
WTSD: 26 W$SD: 42.2.

How do I fix this, I feel like I've been doing this for my whole poker career :x
Give up more.

Yeah, your AF is pretty darn high, your WTSD is at a decent level, and your W$SD stat is quite low. This usually indicates that you bluff too much. Look at board textures & their calling stats (Fold to c-bet, WTSD, ect.) and figure out when they're strong. You'll get a knack for it.

Your AF & AFq are both higher than mine (I run about 4.0, 35%-40%), which is worrysome because:

1) You're playing full ring, I'm playing 6-max. When you're playing Full Ring, you're up against a stronger range of hands, so you should probably be bluffing less.
2) You're playing lower stakes, and at a bigger site. So while regs at the limits I play may be able to fold top pair/over pair type hands, they probably haven't developed those skills at your limits. Thus, you should be bluffing less. Plus, there's more fish, who just call too much with whatever the **** they have.
3) I'm a bit more experienced, and so I'm probably better at picking bluffing spots.

All of this leads to 1 thing: Your AF & AFq are really high, and while its possible to play a winning strategy like that, you're certainly not making it easy on yourself.

So yeah, give up more. You also might want to consider moving to 6-max or heads up, where your bluffy, more aggressive style might pay off better. But even at 6-max, you'd still have some obvious leaks in your game. I used to be the same way, and I love to just be like "**** you, I'm bluff raising the river with air". And often its a good play to make, but you need to learn to recognize the spots where its pure spew. You're in the learning process right now, and of course its costing you money.

But yeah, that's where my signature came from. The biggest leak in my game was I would just try to get too fancy. Vanilla straight forward poker is by far the best way to play, and once I realized what the correct bluffing frequency/board textures/opponents/situations were, my game improved a ton. My graphs used to look just like yours, and its just ridiculously tough to play that way.

Lol, this is like the 5th time I've edited this. This would probably be better for an AIM conversation, so hit me up when I get home from work.
 
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  • #275
orangepeeleo said:
Just done a survey for stars and theyre giving me 300 fpp's for doing it :D 210 fpp sattelite here i come lol

Where does one take this survey?
 
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