ok just read that river call efficiency means per $1 in calls how much money do you make on river calls (so 0 would mean you lose 100% of the time when you call river, 1 would be breakeven, 2 means that for every ). The thing is it's not good to have it too high because it means you should be raising more or perhaps calling more often, plus it seems to be highly dependent on opponent bet sizing. So if an opponent pots it and you call and win the pot I think you would have efficiency of 3? If they go half pot it should be 4 for every win. Of course if they pot it you should call less than if they half pot it, @#%@#%@#% now I'm super-confused, ah well back to pretending it doesn't exist.
Yeah basically I think the most applicable way to use it is look at different situations. If there's a decent sample size and your river call efficiency is <1 it means you should reconsider your play in those spots.
For buying the T$, I'll see how I feel come donkament time on Sunday. If for some godforsaken reason I want to punish myself with a Sunday major (which I most likely will) I'll shoot you a pm near the weekend and buy it from you.
For buying the T$, I'll see how I feel come donkament time on Sunday. If for some godforsaken reason I want to punish myself with a Sunday major (which I most likely will) I'll shoot you a pm near the weekend and buy it from you.
zachvac said:
lol, this seems to be the general sentiment when it comes to donkaments. Everytime I enter a SNG or MTT I think to myself, why the **** did I just burn my money? Then I end up final tabling it after a few tries and it starts the whole cycle again.
I have no idea what is going on here, but i am ok with that
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HAND #1
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Party Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
Hero (BB): $25 (100 bb)
UTG+2: $23 (92 bb)
MP1: $25 (100 bb)
MP2: $44.10 (176.4 bb)
MP3: $30.15 (120.6 bb)
CO: $24.40 (97.6 bb)
BTN: $39.95 (159.8 bb)
SB: $20.65 (82.6 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with 6♥ 6♣
2 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, MP3 raises to $1.25, 2 folds, SB calls $1.15, Hero calls $1, MP2 calls $1
Flop: ($5) 6♦ 6♠ 3♠ (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets $1, MP3 folds, SB raises to $3.50, Hero calls $3.50, MP2 calls $2.50
Turn: ($15.50) 2♠ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets $2, SB folds, Hero raises to $7, MP2 calls $5
River: ($29.50) 8♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $13.25 and is all-in, MP2 calls $13.25
Results:[spoil] $56 pot ($2.70 rake)
Hero showed 6♥ 6♣ (four of a kind, Sixes) and won $53.30 ($28.30 net)
MP2 mucked 8♥ T♣ (two pairs, Eights and Sixes) and lost (-$25 net)
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HAND #1
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Party Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
Hero (BB): $25 (100 bb)
UTG+2: $23 (92 bb)
MP1: $25 (100 bb)
MP2: $44.10 (176.4 bb)
MP3: $30.15 (120.6 bb)
CO: $24.40 (97.6 bb)
BTN: $39.95 (159.8 bb)
SB: $20.65 (82.6 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with 6♥ 6♣
2 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, MP3 raises to $1.25, 2 folds, SB calls $1.15, Hero calls $1, MP2 calls $1
Flop: ($5) 6♦ 6♠ 3♠ (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets $1, MP3 folds, SB raises to $3.50, Hero calls $3.50, MP2 calls $2.50
Turn: ($15.50) 2♠ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP2 bets $2, SB folds, Hero raises to $7, MP2 calls $5
River: ($29.50) 8♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $13.25 and is all-in, MP2 calls $13.25
Results:[spoil] $56 pot ($2.70 rake)
Hero showed 6♥ 6♣ (four of a kind, Sixes) and won $53.30 ($28.30 net)
MP2 mucked 8♥ T♣ (two pairs, Eights and Sixes) and lost (-$25 net)
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This sucked.....
Is it just me or could this have been the spot where you could have found a fold with QQ pf to a shove?? Obv i want him to call but stars took pity.
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
SB: $5.20 (104 bb)
BB: $5.55 (111 bb)
Hero (UTG): $11.63 (232.6 bb)
MP: $7.75 (155 bb)
CO: $4.32 (86.4 bb)
BTN: $12.31 (246.2 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is UTG with K
K
Hero raises to $0.20, MP folds, CO calls $0.20, BTN calls $0.20, SB raises to $1, BB folds, Hero raises to $4.30, 2 folds, SB raises to $5.20 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.90
Flop: ($10.85) 2
3
A
(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($10.85) Q
(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($10.85) Q
(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Results: $10.85 pot ($0.50 rake)
SB showed Q
Q
(four of a kind, Queens) and won $10.35 ($5.15 net)
Hero mucked K
K
(two pairs, Kings and Queens) and lost (-$5.20 net)
Also, flat calling pf for me isn't an option is it?? The guy was 30/12 or something.
Is it just me or could this have been the spot where you could have found a fold with QQ pf to a shove?? Obv i want him to call but stars took pity.
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
SB: $5.20 (104 bb)
BB: $5.55 (111 bb)
Hero (UTG): $11.63 (232.6 bb)
MP: $7.75 (155 bb)
CO: $4.32 (86.4 bb)
BTN: $12.31 (246.2 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is UTG with K
Hero raises to $0.20, MP folds, CO calls $0.20, BTN calls $0.20, SB raises to $1, BB folds, Hero raises to $4.30, 2 folds, SB raises to $5.20 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.90
Flop: ($10.85) 2
Turn: ($10.85) Q
River: ($10.85) Q
Results: $10.85 pot ($0.50 rake)
SB showed Q
Hero mucked K
Also, flat calling pf for me isn't an option is it?? The guy was 30/12 or something.
Richyl2008 said:
He had 100 BBs (orange had 200+). Depends on your opening range and how often SB squeezes. If you're a nit UTG and there's no squeeze history with him this is a spot I'd fold QQ because you're never 4-betting that light when he squeezes your UTG open.
That said I haven't worked out the math, is his call +ev if you 4-bet AK in that spot?
10nl 6 max is teh nutz!!😀
HAND 1
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$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
Poker Tools by Stoxpoker - Hand Details
SB: $10.85 (108.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)
CO: $15 (150 bb)
BTN: $9.90 (99 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with A
A
2 folds, SB raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.30, SB raises to $3.20, Hero raises to $9.60, SB raises to $10.85 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.40 and is all-in
Flop: ($20.00) 3
K
8
(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($20.00) 5
(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($20.00) 4
(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Results:Spoiler:
$20.00 pot ($1.00 rake)
SB showed 9
9
(a pair of Nines) and lost (-$10.00 net)
Hero showed A
A
(a pair of Aces) and won $19 ($9.00 net)
HAND 1
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$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
Poker Tools by Stoxpoker - Hand Details
SB: $10.85 (108.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $10 (100 bb)
CO: $15 (150 bb)
BTN: $9.90 (99 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with A
2 folds, SB raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.30, SB raises to $3.20, Hero raises to $9.60, SB raises to $10.85 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.40 and is all-in
Flop: ($20.00) 3
Turn: ($20.00) 5
River: ($20.00) 4
Results:Spoiler:
$20.00 pot ($1.00 rake)
SB showed 9
Hero showed A
Pretty solid 19/13 shoves over the top, for another buck odd lol, and i think we're splitting, i actually, very nearly, pmsl when i saw what he had.
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
BB: $3.53 (70.6 bb)
Hero (MP): $12.46 (249.2 bb)
CO: $6.40 (128 bb)
BTN: $4.18 (83.6 bb)
SB: $5.06 (101.2 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is MP with A
J
Hero raises to $0.20, CO folds, BTN calls $0.20, 2 folds
Flop: ($0.47) 8
A
4
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.35, BTN calls $0.35
Turn: ($1.17) A
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.85, BTN calls $0.85
River: ($2.87) 8
(2 players)
Hero bets $1.80, BTN raises to $2.78 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.98
Results: $8.43 pot ($0.40 rake)
BTN showed 6
7
(two pairs, Aces and Eights) and lost (-$4.18 net)
Hero showed A
J
(a full house, Aces full of Eights) and won $8.03 ($3.85 net)
Edit: P.S. I love 6 max
Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
BB: $3.53 (70.6 bb)
Hero (MP): $12.46 (249.2 bb)
CO: $6.40 (128 bb)
BTN: $4.18 (83.6 bb)
SB: $5.06 (101.2 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is MP with A
Hero raises to $0.20, CO folds, BTN calls $0.20, 2 folds
Flop: ($0.47) 8
Hero bets $0.35, BTN calls $0.35
Turn: ($1.17) A
Hero bets $0.85, BTN calls $0.85
River: ($2.87) 8
Hero bets $1.80, BTN raises to $2.78 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.98
Results: $8.43 pot ($0.40 rake)
BTN showed 6
Hero showed A
Edit: P.S. I love 6 max
