Official Absolute scandal thread

[pigpen02]

People need something to blame when they lose. Online poker is truly random compared to a live dealer shuffling cards. Many strange outcomes are possible and they are remembered wheras more normal outcomes are soon forgotten. It would not be good business for a poker room to cheat. They just rake, rake, rake and THAT'S THE NAME OF THAT TUNE.

umm did you read the thread?

(a) the evidence is irrefutable

(b) Absolute actually admitted it

No, the thread was not read. Dock him two posts!

 

[Genso Hikki]

Looks like this crap may have been going on for as long as 3 YEARS!! Read more here:

Stick's Poker Blog: Just When You Thought It Was Over: More AP Stuff

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Wow... three years. That just boggles my mind...

 

[joeeagles]

Looks like this crap may have been going on for as long as 3 YEARS!! Read more here:

Stick's Poker Blog: Just When You Thought It Was Over: More AP Stuff

And I'm convinced that UB is clean because the AP/UB merger is recent and the software each site uses is completely different from each other. The issue is with R&D accounts within AP's software.

If true that's an incredible story. Of course we can't be sure about it but I wouldn't be surprised that this has been going on for a long time. Since they lied about the whole story from the beginning one doesn't really know what to believe anymore. If it really is so, for sure they wouldn't like to admit that it has been going on for a long time, and that for obvious reasons, no need to explain them.

It's fine that you think UB is clean but I just can't trust them anymore. I do realize that I don't play high stakes (neither cash games, nor tournies > $100 buyin) so the chances I'd be affected by any kind of scam are as close to zero as it can get. Even if I were the financial ramifications of it wouldn't be astronomic, but it's a matter of general principle. online poker is based solely on trust, and it was clearly and w/o any doubt abused by Tokwiro Enterprises.

 

[narizblanco]

In regards to my previous comment please disregard it. I see cheating has occurred and I was wrong. Hopefully the socalled 'consultant ' will be prosecuted to the full extent oof the law. Death to the Infidels.

 

[peachy00]

prosecuted

since this site, as with the other poker sites that are found to have broken the laws of society, who will prosecute them, and how will this happen. they seem to have bases in countries far from the laws of america or europe.

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

lol at this

 

[Bombjack]

I think I'm in love! (with Denise Pernula, not Mark Seif)

 

[marbleaaron]

could be a clear case push push push ,pot commited

 

[tolstoy]

I use to be able to make the money in Absolute Poker's freerolls fairly frequently, but since they upgraded their software I can't get even close. Scary thing is, accept for the avatars, the site looks and plays a lot like fulltilt - another suspect site.

Some sites are just tough to take seriously. AP and Full Tilt Poker top the list.

 

[Bombjack]

There is nothing remotely suspect about Full Tilt and it looks nothing like Absolute.

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

There is nothing remotely suspect about Full Tilt and it looks nothing like Absolute.

I dunno man, this one time my AA lost to Q3o on Full Tilt.

 

[tolstoy]

There is nothing remotely suspect about Full Tilt and it looks nothing like Absolute.

I'd bet at least five of every ten players on fulltilt would have a different opinion...but you know what PT Barnum said...lol

 

[Emperor IX]

Where did the $7 million go? On September 3rd, 2007 a small jet plane caught on fire before taking off on the runway at San Jose Juan Santamaria International Airport in Costa Rica. The two passengers on the private jet were Scott Tom and his pregnant wife. His wife was rushed to the hospital to make sure everything was alright with the baby. The plane's destination was Colombia and the rumored cargo on the plane was $2-3M in cash. Officials at Absolute Poker confirmed to Point-Spreads.com that Tomm was on the jet, however, deny any money was onboard.

Wow. You don't get much more conspiracy theorist-ish

 

[rainsoaked]

Originally Posted by Bombjack
There is nothing remotely suspect about Full Tilt and it looks nothing like Absolute.

I absolutely agree with this ^^^^

I'd bet at least five of every ten players on fulltilt would have a different opinion...but you know what PT Barnum said...lol

You're willing to bet that half the players at Tilt think it's suspect but are playing there anyway? Um............why would they do that?

 

[beardyian]

but you know what PT Barnum said...lol

Have you been eating my chocolate biscuits Mr Bailey?

 

[polko]

Wow, that sure is a lot of money in play at once!! They'd better bet carefully when you're playing for such high amounts of money I think!!

 

[blankoblanco]

I'd bet at least five of every ten players on fulltilt would have a different opinion...but you know what PT Barnum said...lol

and the lesser known PT barnum quote: "tolstoy on cardschat is a moron"

 

[TheBigMuddy]

What about other sites?

Shouldn't the sites that issue these super user accounts have to serialize them and track where they are. It's like having a direct link to a casino's cash. What about the other sites. Shouldn't they have to disclose the use of such programs?

 

[nevadanick]

Shouldn't the sites that issue these super user accounts have to serialize them and track where they are. It's like having a direct link to a casino's cash. What about the other sites. Shouldn't they have to disclose the use of such programs?

Even if accounts called 'super user' existed as a matter of format, it is not an 'account' as such, but more likely knowing the 'how to' access the program with a .exe file, not an actual user account 'number'. But it certainly would be possible to place an alert status on the program anytime it is accessed.

The only other problem with this is the 'trusted' people with access to the base software installing a trojan horse format where the system itself does not even know it is being accessed.

Cheaters use cheating devices and systems because they believe they cannot be detected, not always because they have access to a system.

 

[burkey2007]

absolute poker is a cheating site, fullstop.
im in the uk , they had 1500 dollars in my account they wouldnt giveme,
i sent 15 faxes with proof of i.d they said they never recived
i then sent another from my solicitors office, they recived that, then changed my user adress to the usa so i couldnt cash out.
this is still on going after 9 months.....
do not use this site it is corrupt.

 

[DFirstBishop]

I am confident I would be safe with freerolls (that I fairly consistently win $ on) and my low buy in tourneys since anyone that could see hole cards would only be playing at tables I can't imagine myself sitting at

 

[CromMitra]

i saw some of the table reconstuction and it was something to see.i just can't believe the guy would be so greedy or stupid not to "throw" some of the hands so the cheating would not be so obvious.it was making me mad just to watch it so i can't imagine how pissed the actual players involved would have been.i'm not sure but i think it was at neverwin if someone wants to try and fid the thread.disturbing to say the least

 

[Wild Rivers]

NOW they have "integrity"

Just out of curiousity I took a look at AP today and up pops a link to this:

Safe Online Poker Gaming at Absolute Poker

Very clever for these guys to act as though nothing EVER happened!
"The Most Trusted Site on the Internet"...BWAAAA HAAA HAAA HAAA!

 

[nevadanick]

Just out of curiousity I took a look at Absolute Poker today and up pops a link to this:

Safe Online Poker Gaming at Absolute Poker

Very clever for these guys to act as though nothing EVER happened!
"The Most Trusted Site on the Internet"...BWAAAA HAAA HAAA HAAA!

No surprise. What else could we expect? A warning that "gaming here could be hazardous to your wealth"? They are no different than the politicians who say they want your vote because they have done so much and promise to do more, except they never mention the special interests, graft, corruption, etc. Compare to the Exxon type corporations that ask consumers to trust them that we are getting a fair deal at the pumps.

Although the superuser account fiasco should have ended their online presence, give it a month or two. No one will remember and no one will care, except for the isolated few that were the victims.

 

[quads]

Absolute Poker Issues Interim Statement