Is poker mostly skill or luck?

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How much does it really affect long-term poker success?
 
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If it was majority luck we'd all be breaking even!! Of course there is a huge amount of luck. but over the medium tom long term skill prevails, or sensible game selection etc etc
 
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The same faces appear on TV at the final tables of WPT and other large tournaments...there's got to be a reason for that; these players are skilled...given that, there is still plenty of luck involved, the timing of said luck means the difference between losing and winning.
 
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Let’s take Luck out of the conversation.

It’s a game of chance. The chance of winning a tournament is different than the chance of winning a hand. This is where skill comes in…especially when winning a hand by having others fold…when there was a high chance they had you beat.

Can you detect patterns to players? Can you establish a table presence that tells others you’re not bluffing…can you make the tough call or fold…regardless of the chances you are winning or losing?
 
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Making someone fold a better hand? That’s not chance, that’s control. Sometimes the best move is laying down a strong hand when the situation feels off. That's decision making not luck!
 
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According to my studies, 70% skill and 30% luck... But not everyone thinks the same way
 
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A bit of both, but luck comes with competence.
 
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It is skill (technical) and luck at the same time. Only skill or luck will not allow to go too far to succeed in poker. You have to unite luck and skill at the same time when you put it. This is the formula of success. First of all, study and prepare so that luck can smile at you when opportunities arise. There is no magic in poker, but logical reasoning and objectivity with a little luck.
 
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I think it's luck
 
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Luck in the short term.

Skill in the long term.
 
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Skill doesn't affect the river at all, so luck is more important.
 
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If there are professional players who often find themselves in the finals of the tournament. I think in the long term success has nothing to do with it. You have to learn.
 
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Skills are the most important always. When you play you are improving your game and your skills. You are improving as player. Luck of course is a factor, but you cannot play only with luck. Luck is a factor that is going to help you. As much as you are improving skills are becoming more significant and luck less significant. So in the long term the most significant are skills!
 
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We definitely need both. Poker is a hard game, we can study and be prepared but we still need luck. Luck for our cards to hold, luck if we are behind in the hand and need the suck out, luck that we can get the best hand to fold.
 
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Vovk said:
How much does it really affect long-term poker success?
freerolls are 50%/50%
As for tournaments with buy-ins starting at $10, skill is 70% and luck is 30%. This is approximately the ratio I see based on my experience and my results.
 
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Perhaps for a good and profitable poker game you need both skill and luck and a bunch of other skills and abilities, therefore, as in other professions, not everyone can become the best.
 
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Luck plays a big role in poker, but without skill you won't get far
 
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