My Quest of $0-$10,000 6/08 to 3/09 Completed

JAMILE1 · May 11, 2009

what the fk is this?

Just incredible

bfw0082 · May 11, 2009

zzzaacckk · May 11, 2009

What accounts for the other $9095?

bfw0082 · May 11, 2009

probably the thousands of dollars of hands posted in the first 6 posts...

feitr · May 11, 2009

You might as well stop trying to make silly attempts to prove that you are this great poker player. It doesn't matter what you post, it doesn't change the fact that you could have lost hundreds/thousands at your higher stake shots. It is much more likely that you went busto rather than withdrew any money to start again at microstakes/freerolls, especially since it is plain to see that you can't stand playing microstakes/freerolls. Frankly, i hope you went busto, because the thought of somebody being stupid enough to withdraw money to spend on a car when they are unemployed to leave themselves with no other form of income but playing freerolls is astounding. No one can verify or disprove anything that you say.

However, what is plain to see from your posts in this forum is that you don't know the first thing about poker theory and that you have no discipline/roll management - and both of these things lead to 99.999% certainty that you will never make any money from poker at all.

And @ your last post - I could easily show you >$400k worth of "winning hands" this year but clearly that does not mean that i have won $400k this year. A player that has lost $100k at 5/10 could no doubt show $500k worth of "winning hands" conveniently choosing not to post any of the hands where they lost $600k.

vanquish · May 11, 2009

i usually coinflip for $100 and if i lose i just coinflip for $200 and keep movin up stakes if i win. i have made over $9000 in the last month doing this

here is a graph:

bfw0082 · May 11, 2009

thanks for the speech, good read another poker book and let me know how the $50NL tables are treating you...

Ya unemployed since May 2008, I didnt take any of that money out...

Car broke down in December 2008, nope, didnt take money out....

Roll got back to $5000 in March, nope, didnt take money out...

this is my last post in this thread BTW, I dont care what you do believe or dont believe...

have a good day...

feitr · May 11, 2009

bfw0082 said:
thanks for the speech, good read another poker book and let me know how the $50NL tables are treating you...

Ya unemployed since May 2008, I didnt take any of that money out...

Car broke down in December 2008, nope, didnt take money out....

Roll got back to $5000 in March, nope, didnt take money out...

Ya, only the major difference between you and me (other than the fact that i don't claim to be any good at this game, yet you are apparantly a poker god) is that i have made $25k this year playing very infrequently while i finished up school and you are broke.

I'm also fascinated to know how your claim to not having taken any money out is consistent with the fact that you now have no money?

blankoblanco · May 11, 2009

bfw0082 said:
I dont care what you do believe or dont believe...

you obviously do, DUCY?

GDRileyx · May 11, 2009

bfw0082 said:
I have gone $0-200 three times in the last 10 days on Carbon, So give me afew days, Ill get it back up....

So you are saying you cashed in three different freeroll at Carbon in the last ten days?

Carbon leaves completed tournaments on their lobby page. Give us your user name, and we can verify if you are telling the truth.

ph_il · May 11, 2009

You can request a HH can't you? Do so and post all of your hands.

dsvw56 · May 11, 2009

How you think about poker :

I save the turn bet, as you say, to keep the pot small, he is calling you down, he most likely has you out kicked, best case is he pairs his second card with a diamond, that way he will lead out a bet and we can take his stake...

I check here because if Villain makes a river bet we can call and it will be the same as betting the turn. If we bet the turn, miss our two pair or flush then the river bet will be that much larger and we are out the same amount of money as we were by check calling, at least we have some chance to win with top pair.

I use this logic all the time, I play $1000NL on Carbon where Turn bets are roughly $250, and River bets can reach $500-$1000....

So I take pot size into consideration in each hand I get in, especially if I am weak praying on a draw.

How winning players think about poker :

Maybe they'll bet 88/99 but you said this is a fish that is neither aggressive nor passive and i don't tend to see players like this bet hands like 88/99 once you bet an overcard on the turn. Don't get me wrong, I think 88/99 is absolutely a bet on the river here, but i don't give fish enough credit for hand reading to bet it. And if fish do bet 88/99 here it is probably coz they don't know what they are doing and they'll probably bet 44/55 for the same reason (just bet, they don't know why). That said, if bet sizing is any indication, this looks more like a thin value type hand, but fish certainly bluff this size as well.

As per the other part - we are getting 1:4.7 on the call. So we have to be good 1/5.7 = 18% of the time. When you do 24/(24 + 89) you just get the number of times that you have to "miss" in order to break even for one time you "hit". But you still have to factor in the additional value of 1 for the time that you call and are right (ie. make up the difference and hit the breakeven point). To get 21% you are calculating that we are getting 1:3.7 on the call (1/4.7) which should seem intuitively wrong to you, since if you roughly look at the odds on the call, 24 goes into 113 >4 times to give you better than 4:1. And if you are getting better than 4:1, you obviously have to be right <1/5 of the time. It always helps to do the crude math in your head to get an approx. number so that you can check your exact calculations.

A simple example may make it clear. Most ppl know that you have to be right 1/3 of the time to snap off a psb bluff on the river. But if you do the calculation the 21% way, you get (x/x+x) = 0.5x, which would be 50% (ie. 1:1) the way you calculated it (if x was $10 it would be $10 to call for a $20 pot, or $10/$20 and 0.5). But if you add the additional value of 1 to factor in the time you call and are right (to hit breakeven point), you get 2:1 and 33%.

The way i think is easiest is to figure out the $$ required when you call and win the pot. In this case it is $113. Then take $$ lose everytime you are wrong and divide it by this number (24/113 = 0.21). Divide 1 by 0.21 to get the "calling and lost side of the odds", so 4.76. The "calling and won side" gets a value of 1. So it is 1:4.76 and to figure out the times we have to be right it is 1/(1 + 4.76) = 17.4% (which i had just rounded to 18).

Seriously guy, it's blatantly obvious to anyone who has a clue about poker that you lack even the most basic knowledge of the game and in no way could you be a long term winner. Just give up the charade and admit you're full of crap and we'll all move on.

bfw0082 · May 11, 2009

GDRileyx said:
So you are saying you cashed in three different freeroll at Carbon in the last ten days?

Carbon leaves completed tournaments on their lobby page. Give us your user name, and we can verify if you are telling the truth.

I bought in with points, VIP points...

Jesusgoesallin - carbon, yes I worked it up to $200 three times in 10 days.

took some bad beats and back to $0 again, in an MTT right now about to cash a few dollars Ill turn it into $100 by the time I go to bed, or tomorrow

zachvac · May 11, 2009

dsvw56 said:
Seriously guy, it's blatantly obvious to anyone who has a clue about poker that you lack even the most basic knowledge of the game and in no way could you be a long term winner. Just give up the charade and admit you're full of crap and we'll all move on.

stfu and don't tap the tank plz

.

To OP, definitely message me if you run hot and get enough money on to play HU, look forward to it

.

bfw0082 · May 11, 2009

dsvw56 said:
How you think about poker :

How winning players think about poker :

Seriously guy, it's blatantly obvious to anyone who has a clue about poker that you lack even the most basic knowledge of the game and in no way could you be a long term winner. Just give up the charade and admit you're full of crap and we'll all move on.

I havent a clue, yet find a way to win on high level tables, probably of which you have never played, ok, what ever, moving on...

You are all telling people to risk money with bad hands saying they will be wrong 3 out of ten times, lol...

My showdown win percentage is around 85%.... I havent a clue...

ph_il · May 11, 2009

Provide proof, then. You haven't provided any at all.

Show your cash-out history. You did say you cashed out $1200, $2100, $2400, $4400 for a number of reasons (new car, need money, whatever) and I'm 100% sure there is a cashier history on whatever site you play on. If not, request a cashout history for all of your withdraws and post it on here. You're make some pretty big claims but not backing anything up with a proof.

...So, prove us all wrong.

bfw0082 · May 11, 2009

goes back 30 days, I cashed out in March... December, October and August.

blankoblanco · May 11, 2009

bfw0082 said:
My showdown win percentage is around 85%.... I havent a clue...

oh god this is getting hilarious

Dwilius · May 11, 2009

I just looked over the hand histories, was that a video poker brag in the middle of the atc call/2 pair flops?

ph_il · May 11, 2009

bfw0082 said:
goes back 30 days, I cashed out in March... December, October and August.

Fair enough. Email whatever site you cashed out of and request the withdraw history.

bfw0082 · May 11, 2009

D'wilius said:
I just looked over the hand histories, was that a video poker brag in the middle of the atc call/2 pair flops?

lol, ya...

diamond_06_06 · May 11, 2009

This is a definite level

vanquish said:
i usually coinflip for $100 and if i lose i just coinflip for $200 and keep movin up stakes if i win. i have made over $9000 in the last month doing this

here is a graph:

And wow, what a sexy graph.

JAMILE1 · May 11, 2009

philthy said:
Fair enough. Email whatever site you cashed out of and request the withdraw history.

This request will definitely be honored by any pokersite. again prove your claim dude.

wsorbust · May 11, 2009

Imo, this might be the same guy who rambled on and on about winning, advertising for coaching, but didn't know how to make a point or paragraphs for that matter. Where's your notebook stats? lol

blankoblanco · May 11, 2009

bfw0082 said:
My showdown win percentage is around 85%.... I havent a clue...

quoting this on the new pages for lols

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