ring games???

When building a bankroll, do you all recommend staying away from the ring games or not???

What is your bankroll? Is it like 1 buy-in? Then yes, either deposit or stick to freerolls. I am not saying I would recommend playing tournaments over cash games when you have a low roll though, you're less likely to cash in an MTT that you are to make some at a ring game, and if you don't have the buy-ins to back up your losses at the tourneys, then you're busto.

Ring games are great, but in the lower blind games luck is the rule because nobody folds. I think sitn'gos another great way to build your bankroll.

LarryT503 said:

Ring games are great, but in the lower blind games luck is the rule because nobody folds. I think sitn'gos another great way to build your bankroll.

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You know what you do when you have fish that don't fold? Tighten up and play your good hands, not crap. If you play decent poker, you will have no problem beating 2NL.

_BadaBing_ said:

i think sng's r prollE less stressful 4 u if beginning then progress 2 ring games 4 low stakes. gl@wutev table u do go 2 play l8r y'all

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Please type normally, it probably takes the same amount of time.
/rant

absoluthamm said:

You know what you do when you have fish that don't fold? Tighten up and play your good hands, not crap. If you play decent poker, you will have no problem beating 2NL.

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This couldn't be more true. 2NL is easy to beat if you play tight (i'm not saying you can't win playing loose) and pick your spots wisely. Downward swings will happen but that is part of the game and you just have to make sure you are properly rolled for it. 20+ buy ins

WSOP13 said:

This couldn't be more true. 2NL is easy to beat if you play tight (i'm not saying you can't win playing loose) and pick your spots wisely. Downward swings will happen but that is part of the game and you just have to make sure you are properly rolled for it. 20+ buy ins

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This sounds good, gonna try it. thanks for advice everyone, and GL at the tables!

I personally when trying to build a bankroll like to make 20 or 30c uin the micro ring games and then leave the table and jump to another table

as long as u can properly follow good BRM i would recommend cash games

CntryBoys said:

I personally when trying to build a bankroll like to make 20 or 30c uin the micro ring games and then leave the table and jump to another table

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Hit and run, that will get you no where. As you move up people will notice this more and won't give you any action. Strongly advice against this. People hate you when you do this.

Ring games are ok if you are properly rolled. The variance in cash games can be a bankroll killer. I'd recommend at least 25-50 buyins of whatever level you are playing at to avoid going busto.

Personally SnG are the greatest bankroll builder you can use since the variance isnt as much as it is in ring games...

Stick to whatever game you know and are best at. It's as simple as that.

Look at the table stats before you join a table. The lower the average pot is, the tighter everyone is playing, which if playing tag limits any edge from the mathematical mistakes that looser tables have. Keep in mind for ring games I mainly stick to omaha, but I believe the same would be true for hold em ring games.

OzExorcist said:

Stick to whatever game you know and are best at. It's as simple as that.

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Thats the best advice....Some people are best at Cash, some at SNGs and some at MTTs and many do terribly when they cross over. Seems a lot of MTT/SNG guys fail miserably at cash for some reason and can blow tons of money in quick fashion. A lot of rolls on staking sites occur because good MTT players try and take their staking bankroll over to Cash Games to steal some quick money from their backers, only to wipe out the entire investment.

Tbh i dont play much cash ring games
theres no point
i think u lose more there than u would playing S&Gs
or tourneys
if u can play supers or shootouts they are a good way of building BR

I just went through exactly what WEC was saying, because believe me i understand i am no world champ when it comes to SnG or MTT but i do fairly well in them, enough so that i never deposit more then $20 at a time unless the site has a min deposit that is a bit higher and i have rarely had to make a deposit a 2 or 3 time in the last year and a half of playing online.But i won some cash at Power poker in a tourny that had me up like $160 so i decided to try and earn some gold chips and try to get some of those gold cards on the Cake network so i switched over to the cash games because you can't earn any cards on tourny games so off i went thinking that the play would be similar,WOWZERS was i mistaken ! I went with $25 each session at the .25/.50 NL tables and would play till i at least doubled up or lost the bit i had brought.After aprox 9 sessions like this my whole $160 winnings was gonzo, so i then put my tail between my legs and skulked back to the MTT & SnG side of the room. I was shocked at how bad my results were, not sure actually where i went wrong to be honest

Peteyweestro said:

I just went through exactly what WEC was saying, because believe me i understand i am no world champ when it comes to SnG or MTT but i do fairly well in them, enough so that i never deposit more then $20 at a time unless the site has a min deposit that is a bit higher and i have rarely had to make a deposit a 2 or 3 time in the last year and a half of playing online.But i won some cash at Power poker in a tourny that had me up like $160 so i decided to try and earn some gold chips and try to get some of those gold cards on the Cake network so i switched over to the cash games because you can't earn any cards on tourny games so off i went thinking that the play would be similar,WOWZERS was i mistaken ! I went with $25 each session at the .25/.50 NL tables and would play till i at least doubled up or lost the bit i had brought.After aprox 9 sessions like this my whole $160 winnings was gonzo, so i then put my tail between my legs and skulked back to the MTT & SnG side of the room. I was shocked at how bad my results were, not sure actually where i went wrong to be honest

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Just going to hit on this right now, but there is a bunch in your post that can be commented on. First of all, you need to search this forum for Bankroll Management and learn something from that because you don't know about it at all. You were playing at a table that you only had a bankroll of 1/2 a buy-in. With $25 in your account, you should have not been playing any higher than 2NL, which is .01/.02. So you were short-stacking which should be banned at every site because it is dumb as hell, and you were playing way out of your league for your roll. Play within your means and you wouldn't have blown through the winnings so fast.

IMO you have to identify which game you are better at. Ring or Tourny.