Where do you get river'd the most?

Ice Wolf · Sep 13, 2008

WVHillbilly said:
Really? Little ole me? Well I do declare.

I make what was obviously a true statement (that YOU really think online poker is rigged) and I'm an asshole? Ok, I can't deny that. If I were you though I'd quit subjecting myself to rigged games and withdrawal your entire BR today before you lose it all to horrible bad beats. Seriously why, if you believe the game is rigged, would you continue to play at it?

TIA

I do not believe that the game is rigged but I do believe that some sites have their flaws. Earlier I was simply stating where "I think" the beats came from on what sites and you give people all kind of hell for a simple opinion. The question was not "For a fact where are the worst beats on the river in online play?" It was "Where do you get rivered the most" so chill out bro.

odinscott · Sep 14, 2008

Deadly Silent said:
Got to love the senior members here like this guy. Most aren't like him but his type are so welcoming and so great to people who do not have their amazing talent and millions of dollars from playing the online games. Haven't you all heard of this guy and seen him playing on TV? Azzhole.

(Didn't mean to double post I just didn't know how to double quote.)

Deadly Silent said:
I do not believe that the game is rigged but I do believe that some sites have their flaws. Earlier I was simply stating where "I think" the beats came from on what sites and you give people all kind of hell for a simple opinion. The question was not "For a fact where are the worst beats on the river in online play?" It was "Where do you get rivered the most" so chill out bro.

So you dont believe that the games are purposely rigged, but you do believe that their RNGs are "flawed"? lolz

At the risk of a rant like you spewed at WV, can you actually provide any evidence of a "flawed" site? I will surely quit playing there and make sure that noone I know plays there anymore as well.

Hell just for fun, why dont you let us know which sites you think are "flawed".

JohnDixon · Sep 14, 2008

cAPSLOCK said:
"The bottom line is the precept of this thread has been proven to be false by multiple hand histories. Multiple times. On forums, in newsgroups.. over and over and over."

"It is the argument of a bad player to pin the blame of his bad play anywhere except where it belongs: on himself."

"...it is the refuge of fools and cowards."

love,
cAPS

Wow cAPS!

Have you ever played with me before? You must have on several occasions to be able to know that I'm a "Bad Player".

Wasn't pinning the blame of my bad play on a poker site, or someone else.

I'm definitely not a fool, or a coward.

It's nice to see you can make assumptions about someone you've never met, or even played with before!

Isn't this supposed to be a friendly community?

See ya on the felt buddy!

cAPSLOCK · Sep 14, 2008

Hey man.. I did not name names in my first criticism above. In fact the only player I fully apply those words to is myself. But if the shoe seems to fit.. that is your situation to deal with. I'm glad to help if I can, or stay out of your way if you prefer...I don't mind either way.

Bottom line is: the idea that a card room does you wrong more frequently on the river or turn is an illusion. And there is only one motivation to believe it. If you cannot accept this then you are stuck. I will stop trying to help unstick you now.

The criticism of your personal attack on WVHillbilly WAS directed at you. And once again i will simply state when a person runs out of argument they tend to attack the person on the other side. It frequently is a good read on a losing argument so to speak.

As to this community being friendly... well it seems to be to me. In fact WVHillbilly was one of the first to be friendly to me here.

I am only responsible for cAPS' friendliness... and I mean nothing I have said in an unfriendly manner. I'm just shooting straight. But I do not represent all of Cardschat and am only a new member myself.

I have not meant to offend... and would be glad to play poker with you sometime. I'm pretty easy to beat.

cAPS

jdeliverer · Sep 14, 2008

cAPSLOCK said:
BINGO.

lol

By the way, I notice that I tend to get rivered on Pokerstars way way more than any other site. And it must not be because 90% of my time online is spent on pokerstars... IT MUST BE RIGGED!

JohnDixon · Sep 14, 2008

cAPSLOCK said:
The criticism of your personal attack on WVHillbilly WAS directed at you. And once again i will simply state when a person runs out of argument they tend to attack the person on the other side. It frequently is a good read on a losing argument so to speak.
cAPS

What on earth are you talking about? I've never responded to anything WVHillbilly has posted. I don't know where you think I launched a "personal attack" on this person, so you should probably go back and re-read this thread you hate oh so much.

Dwilius · Sep 14, 2008

There's been some confusion in this thread...

Monoxide said:
level?

WVHillbilly said:
Sadly I doubt it.

Deadly Silent said:
I do not play in any of the big tourneys because thats over my head...

That's not what was meant by "level"...saying something ridiculous with a straight face to fool others.

Deadly Silent said:
Got to love the senior members here like this guy...Azzhole.

How about not calling senior members "azzhole"

JohnDixon said:
What on earth are you talking about? I've never responded to anything WVHillbilly has posted.

cAPs confused you with the other person in this thread (quoted above) complaining about irregularities in online poker.

xXShannonAXx · Sep 14, 2008

i dont believe its rigged either i was just stating that thats how i get beat on the river on ftp and the turn on pstars

jdeliverer · Sep 14, 2008

xXShannonAXx said:
i dont believe its rigged either i was just stating that thats how i get beat on the river on Full Tilt Poker and the turn on Pokerstars

Any statistics? Track the number of times you go all in on the flop and lose on the turn vs. river at both of these two. Give me statistics for at least 100 times, and I'll take your data into consideration, although even 100 is ridiculously low for any real analysis.

cAPSLOCK · Sep 14, 2008

JohnDixon said:
What on earth are you talking about? I've never responded to anything WVHillbilly has posted. I don't know where you think I launched a "personal attack" on this person, so you should probably go back and re-read this thread you hate oh so much.

Ah yes.. my mistake. It was another poster.

I apologize for my confusion.

cAPS

WVHillbilly · Sep 15, 2008

And I apologize for being a senior azzhole....who am I kidding? No I don't!

Thanks for sticking up for me cAPS.

jdeliverer · Sep 15, 2008

And thanks to WVHillbilly for saying what everyone else wants to say but doesn't want to get yelled at for saying.

WVHillbilly · Sep 15, 2008

Anytime James.

Whenever a thread needs an azzhole, I'll be there.

It's my cross to bear.

cAPSLOCK · Sep 15, 2008

WVHillbilly said:
Thanks for sticking up for me cAPS.

It's my pleasure.

The weird part here is that when people want to hang on to the idea that they are "rivered more frequently" they are gonna hang on tooth and nail. And when someone tries to help they are accused of being rude or the like.

The brain is a powerful machine. And when it feels threatened it is capable of creating vast landscapes of pure BS to try to ease the pain.

*That* realization has helped me quite a bit with poker, and in my life in general.

cAPS

jdeliverer · Sep 15, 2008

cAPSLOCK said:
The brain is a powerful machine. And when it feels threatened it is capable of creating vast landscapes of pure BS to try to ease the pain.

*That* realization has helped me quite a bit with poker, and in my life in general.

cAPS

*cough* republicans *cough*

Sk8surf · Sep 15, 2008

for me its on stars ive lost hand where the other player has 3% of even winning hand ive lost when ive flopped the NUT str8 with open str8 flush draw many times lol but ya id say stars and full tit are the worst

cAPSLOCK · Sep 15, 2008

jamesdadeliverer said:
*cough* republicans *cough*

LOL!

jdeliverer · Sep 17, 2008

I never would have suspected it! But here it is... ABSOLUTE PROOF that PokerStars screws you over on the turn!!! Amazing!!!

By the way I managed to win this tournament due to my opponent's exceptional weakness (<3 play money tables).

PokerStars Game #20480274072: Tournament #108775011, 500+30 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2008/09/17 14:18:41 ET
Table '108775011 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: jdelivrer (1080 in chips)
Seat 2: bigslick1965 (920 in chips)
jdelivrer: posts small blind 10
bigslick1965: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jdelivrer [Ks Kh]
jdelivrer: raises 40 to 60
bigslick1965: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [7h 3h Qc]
bigslick1965: bets 40
jdelivrer: raises 100 to 140
bigslick1965: calls 100
*** TURN *** [7h 3h Qc] [8h]
bigslick1965: bets 40
jdelivrer: raises 120 to 160
bigslick1965: raises 560 to 720 and is all-in
jdelivrer: calls 560
*** RIVER *** [7h 3h Qc 8h] [5s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bigslick1965: shows [8d 8c] (three of a kind, Eights)
jdelivrer: shows [Ks Kh] (a pair of Kings)
bigslick1965 collected 1840 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1840 | Rake 0
Board [7h 3h Qc 8h 5s]
Seat 1: jdelivrer (button) (small blind) showed [Ks Kh] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 2: bigslick1965 (big blind) showed [8d 8c] and won (1840) with three of a kind, Eights

norbs286 · Sep 17, 2008

I'm no expert, but HU, you get KK and you do not go ALL IN pre-flop?! In anycase the odds are on your side big time (in this case 80% - 20%!!)
If not pre-flop, then post flop, he would've folded, don't you think?
I read your posts here and I give you credit for being both funny and professional - Please explain these moves of yours

WVHillbilly · Sep 17, 2008

norbs286 said:
I'm no expert, but HU, you get KK and you do not go ALL IN pre-flop?! In anycase the odds are on your side big time (in this case 80% - 20%!!)
If not pre-flop, then post flop, he would've folded, don't you think?
I read your posts here and I give you credit for being both funny and professional - Please explain these moves of yours

Our goal is to get max value from KK not to make our opponents fold inferior hands.

Hotkiller102 · Sep 23, 2008

Full fult! Always on the 5th with a runner runner up!
I think it happens to much on full tilt that people win on the 5th.

philivoryAKA · Sep 23, 2008

i get rivered at any site , you have to put someone on a drawing hand and bet enough so they dont call , make them pay for it if they wanna suck out

vixenx78 · Sep 24, 2008

yeah tilt i get rivered most
and its usually a stupid one
where i have the nuts and they need runner runner

RayG59 · Sep 25, 2008

It's been full tilt for me, hand's down.

Karmabitya · Sep 25, 2008

xXShannonAXx said:
i get rivered all the time on fulltilt pokerstars just screws me over on the turn alot lol

same thing here.. full tilt gets me always on river and on pokerstars its the turn as well.. if everyone checks the turn on ps then more than likely my top pair held up... but if they bet.. its over

and JJ is the worst hand i've ever played along with AQ(suited or not) i always fold them on flop.. if not sooner LOL

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