Why do Asian players often lose?

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When comparing poker players across regions, it is noticeable that European and American players tend to achieve more consistent success than their Asian counterparts. One key reason is the maturity of the poker industry in Europe and the United States. Poker has been deeply integrated into their culture for decades, supported by legal casinos, professional tournaments, and well-structured training resources. Players there have greater access to coaching, data analysis tools, and exposure to high-level competition, which accelerates their skill development. In contrast, while Asia has a large number of enthusiastic players, poker remains relatively new in many countries and is often constrained by strict regulations. This limits opportunities for players to gain professional experience. Additionally, the Western approach to strategy often emphasizes discipline, bankroll management, and psychological control, while many Asian players may rely more heavily on intuition or aggression. These differences contribute to the gap in long-term successful
 
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Players from Asia are bluffing more and they flirt too much at high risk...)
 
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I don't think it's fair to say that Asian players (or any group) often lose in poker. Success depends on individual skills, experience, and discipline, not on nationality. In fact, there are many strong Asian poker players who have had great results in major tournaments.
 
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LiviuRo123 said:
I don't think it's fair to say that Asian players (or any group) often lose in poker. Success depends on individual skills, experience, and discipline, not on nationality. In fact, there are many strong Asian poker players who have had great results in major tournaments.
According to industry reports, nearly 65% of Asian online poker players record long-term losses, compared to about 45% in Europe and 40% in the U.S. Despite making up over 35% of the global poker community, only around 10% of Asian players consistently show profit, highlighting a sharp imbalance.
i'm not saying all asian players are bad, but most of them lose money
 
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The biggest reason is the government. Poker in India only started getting popular about 5–6 years ago and it was just in the last couple of years that tv shows and leagues began to bring it into the spotlight. But before the game could even grow properly, the government stepped in and banned it
 
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IMO it's because Asian players tend to be looser and that can get you in trouble but it can also pay off big time when timed right. I don't think it's necessarily true that all Asian players are bad after all you have some Asian world champions like Johnny Chan and Scotty Nguyen.
 
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The question about the reasons for Asian players' losses is incorrect.Just 10 years ago, Asian players were rare at major tournament series. They were seen by professionals as easy pickings.Now Asian players have entered the global arena and have already won millions of dollars in live tournaments.Rumors of high-stakes games against Asian millionaires quickly spread throughout the poker community. Many poker pros flew to Macau and waited days for an invitation from the organizers. Thus began a boom in high-stakes games in Asia, and Macau became the Las Vegas of the East.
 
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to much gamble gamble!!!
 
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Lozovo-aggressive approach — many Asian amateurs often play “too many hands”, which turns into a losing strategy against experienced opponents.

Discipline problems — after losses, there is often a “tilt”: the desire to quickly recoup through large bets.

Lack of bankroll management — deposits are made aggressively and are often lost when playing at inappropriate limits.


Do you want me to translate it in a more formal (analytical) way or leave it in this “talk-and-poker” style?
 
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we all lose, and im not asian
 
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According to industry reports, nearly 65% of Asian online poker players record long-term losses, compared to about 45% in Europe and 40% in the U.S. Despite making up over 35% of the global poker community, only around 10% of Asian players consistently show profit, highlighting a sharp imbalance.
i'm not saying all asian players are bad, but most of them lose money
That's interesting. Could you please link such report? It is a common knowledge, that something like 70-90% of players are loosing, anyone can google it. But it is just some kind of opinion, AI generated. While I believe it can be true, it is not easy to prove it.
 
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Yeah if you're going to make a claim like this, you should source it. As in, provide a hyperlink to a somewhat reputable source that backs the claim you're making.

nearly 65% of Asian online poker players record long-term losses
If only 65% of Asian players were long-term losers, that would mean 35% are beating the game, which would make Asia far stronger than Europe or America. But since this says "reported", doesn't it just mean Asians are slightly less dishonest?
 
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jrgum25 said:
IMO it's because Asian players tend to be looser and that can get you in trouble but it can also pay off big time when timed right. I don't think it's necessarily true that all Asian players are bad after all you have some Asian world champions like Johnny Chan and Scotty Nguyen.
yes, i'm talking about the majority of asian players not all. we still have champions from asia or of asian descent like Quy Nguyen, Scotty Nguyen, Johnny Chan...
 
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Good afternoon everyone. In my opinion, every region has very strong players and beginners. Just as Asia has a huge population, many are beginners to poker. This may give rise to the perception that Asia has many weak players.
Of course, compared to the world's poker powers, Asia lags far behind, but it does have many players with excellent technique and mathematical knowledge.
I play low limits, and the country that has faced the most recreational players is Germany. It's the richest country in Europe, and many people from that country enjoy poker for fun. This gives regular players a significant advantage over them, especially in cash games.
 
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Yeah if you're going to make a claim like this, you should source it. As in, provide a hyperlink to a somewhat reputable source that backs the claim you're making.


If only 65% of Asian players were long-term losers, that would mean 35% are beating the game, which would make Asia far stronger than Europe or America. But since this says "reported", doesn't it just mean Asians are slightly less dishonest?
It is an undeniable fact that 92.6% of stats are made up on the spot!
 
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The Chinese are fanatical gamblers, not necessarily good ones. Have known a few from when I played live.
 
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Good points. I’d also add that access to live events plays a huge role. In Europe and the US, players can build experience in regular tournaments and cash games, while in many parts of Asia opportunities are more limited. Still, I think the gap will close over time as the game grows and more structured training becomes available.
 
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!!! most people lose in poker.
 
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There are a lot of players out there who play for fun.
 
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I´ve never thought of that, do they really?
 
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I don't think so, they don't. Winning or losing at poker comes down to skill, volume, and variance, not ethnicity. Every player pool has strong and weak players, and results depend on how you adjust to the game.
 
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Reddog888 said:
According to industry reports, nearly 65% of Asian online poker players record long-term losses, compared to about 45% in Europe and 40% in the U.S. Despite making up over 35% of the global poker community, only around 10% of Asian players consistently show profit, highlighting a sharp imbalance.
i'm not saying all asian players are bad, but most of them lose money
Pls advise the source reference of the data. Tho the data could be true since the best online tournaments & games are scheduled in favor of the western hemisphere which is late evenings or early mornings in Asia.

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Despite making up over 35% of the global poker community, only around 10% of Asian players consistently show profit, highlighting a sharp imbalance.
Relatively, in live poker, with the volume of big live tournaments in South East Asia almost weekly & estimating that 5-20% of the field are foreigners, they ITM & final table but can only remember a couple of them winning a big tournament. In live tourneys I have played, most foreigners do multiple rebuys & most locals don't.

i'm not saying also that non-South East Asian players are bad. :love:
 
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Players from Asia are bluffing more and they flirt too much at high risk...)
😂🤣🤣
 
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Reddog888 said:
When comparing poker players across regions, it is noticeable that European and American players tend to achieve more consistent success than their Asian counterparts. One key reason is the maturity of the poker industry in Europe and the United States. Poker has been deeply integrated into their culture for decades, supported by legal casinos, professional tournaments, and well-structured training resources. Players there have greater access to coaching, data analysis tools, and exposure to high-level competition, which accelerates their skill development. In contrast, while Asia has a large number of enthusiastic players, poker remains relatively new in many countries and is often constrained by strict regulations. This limits opportunities for players to gain professional experience. Additionally, the Western approach to strategy often emphasizes discipline, bankroll management, and psychological control, while many Asian players may rely more heavily on intuition or aggression. These differences contribute to the gap in long-term successful
Because they have to much money 😂😂
 
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That’s not a solid or fair generalisation. Players from Asia win plenty in poker.- online n live.
 
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