Why do players SLOW ROLL ?

roger perkins · Jun 23, 2020

OMG people SLOW ROLLING is not SLOW PLAYING. slow rolling is best described as when you have the nutz you absolutely know you are going to win the hand and you let the clock tick down for the dramatic effect. It is a very douchebag move. If you do it at a live table most of the players will call you a douche.

Roobz75 · Jun 24, 2020

Slow rolling is a waste of clock time. Just get on with your gameplay. I don't see the point and ultimate benefit of this action.
I put this in the same bin as those who take an over exaggerated time to fold. No intention of continuing to play, then just get out.

ramignis · Jun 24, 2020

in my opinion, waiting until the last second is stupid. there are of course situations where you need to wait some time before making a decision but do not abuse it so much.

mkdjdfb · Jun 24, 2020

They probably do it to try and tilt other players.

Chaskyweed05 · Jun 24, 2020

It is definitely a good strategy to use from time to time, although the abuser bores everyone

roger perkins · Jun 24, 2020

ONCE AGAIN SLOW ROLLING IS NOT SLOW PLAYING. Slow playing is using the entire clock no matter what your action is going to be. Slow rolling is knowing positively that you have the other player beat and there is no way he can win and you let the clock roll down just for the drama.

roger perkins · Jun 24, 2020

Chaskyweed05 said:
It is definitely a good strategy to use from time to time, although the abuser bores everyone

Slow playing is a strategy slow rolling is a violation of poker etiquette.

mountainfox · Jun 24, 2020

Because it's funny to slow roll when you have the best hand. The look on your opponents when they see your hand is priceless.

HerbPuffer · Jun 24, 2020

By show of hands, who here still doesn't know the difference between SLOWROLLING and slow-playing?

From the looks of these posts, besides the ones that explaing the difference noone is either, 1) not reading the posts before posting, or 2) not comprehending what they are reading in the explanations.

SLOWROLLING: To use much more time needed to make a call when you have the nuts. Turning a snap-call into a time-bank call when not needed.

I have done this quite a few times in my online career but usually by accident when playing quite a few tables and it takes a while to get cycled back to the table to make the call. Purposely I have done it a very limited number of times, and ONLY to players that have slow-rolled me in the past.

SLOW-PLAYING: Using your time bank and extra time to make a decision or try to backdoor your way into a satellite seat or the money in a regular tournament. Can be used to try and fool your opponent into thinking you have nothing or something or however you want to try and use it to your advantage.

HerbPuffer · Jun 24, 2020

Pokerstudy said:
I see slowrolling as simply an element of the game grouped in with psychology, I don’t see it as direct as trying to get people to outright tilt, but rather perhaps make opponents second guess their aggressiveness or perhaps entice their aggressiveness. Adjusting speed of play can make others second guess their rythum once comfortable.even a few seconds of trickery could alter their “zone”.
I myself do not slow roll to be a jerk, or (be unsportsmanlike<—-if that’s even a reality when it comes to playing for real money lol. These people want every cent you have, they are not your “friends” and will gladly take it any chance they can. I myself am not a “nice” guy when I play, but I am never ever rude,... but when we are playing for real money, I am there to win money..not be looked at as an awesome dude. Lol I however am never a complete jerk, I am just competitive..I want to win.

I talk and am friendly after the game

So, to me slowrolling is just an element of the game and really takes a per game, per table image of players, per past experiences with those players, per position of player next to type of player etc to really see what is going on with a slowroll.

I would never slowroll unless I had a real reason to do it, even if I somehow wanted to deep down do it to be a jerk(for some reason or another at time)..I just wouldn’t as it’s not part of my goal in the game to win ...and get no satisfaction or see a point in deviating from the goal of winning money by slowrolling (just to slowroll)

I think you yourself have the definition of slowrolling and slow-playing mixed up. Read any of the posts in here to see the difference between the two.

Pokerstudy · Jun 25, 2020

HerbPuffer said:
I think you yourself have the definition of slowrolling and slow-playing mixed up. Read any of the posts in here to see the difference between the two.

I know what slowrolling is. And yes I do see that ”added time“ no matter how you use it is an added psychology tactic. It’s not something (slowrolling) I would do but rarely..and if I have an edge somehow within the game to use it I will. I am not going to take it (slowrolling) out of the toolbox if it has a purpose, and in rare circumstances slowrolling does have a purpose.

Just look how tilted people get talking about it here, there could be a table that gets titled to your advantage to use it. If your not prepared for a slow roll in any game, you need to adjust your own game.

roger perkins · Jun 27, 2020

mountainfox said:
Because it's funny to slow roll when you have the best hand. The look on your opponents when they see your hand is priceless.

Do you play much live poker? Most people view slow rolling as a real douchebag move.

Pokerstudy · Jun 29, 2020

roger perkins said:
Do you play much live poker? Most people view slow rolling as a real douchebag move.

I would never slow roll with gentlemen, ever...period. BUT if I am in a game of jerks, I won't only slowroll..I will slowroll and more...id take out my wallet and find my help "card" that shows the best hands to win at poker... and ponder like a complete idiot if a full house is a good hand or not... before putting cards down

Poker Orifice · Jun 29, 2020

Pokerstudy said:
Just look how tilted people get talking about it here,.

I suppose if you call that 'tilting' I'd suggest it would be closer to 'annoyed', &/or 'in disbelief' by the lack of understanding &/or the inability to read through the thread when the answers are right there for them to learn from in black & white.

TDTODDY · Jun 29, 2020

Slow rollers are always people who want to have power, even for a fleeting moment. The whole world has to wait on them, and they have the winning hand. they are the scum of the poker, and real world.

Ricardo_lhp · Jun 29, 2020

I think this is a lack of ethics, every player who practices slow roll has to take a bad beat the rest of his life kakakakakaka

Pokerstudy · Jun 29, 2020

You can’t put any type of play as a definitive in poker, it’s like saying I will only do this with this hand or only do this with another. The game is not based on rules and methods, just decisions as you play. Having a definitive decision to never ever slow roll is asinine. It’s like saying I will never play 72 offsuit even though I get the right odds to call heads up. There are times when slowrolling works..it has to be strategic though in reasoning. If Poker has taught anyone anything, it’s that there is no definitive rules for card play tactics in this game, just decisions per hand, per game.

And in the case of slowrolling it’s table image vs players vs fold equity of tilt..vs more per game. It’s never an ego power move on my part. It’s like steering a sheep of jerks.. or starting a wave in the stands at a stadium to play along and be entranced lol.

Again, would never slow roll with gentlemen, just jerks.

leoronin · Jun 29, 2020

i dont know if this is considered slow roll but for example if i have ace high flush on first flop i check to reel players to bet and check till last call then raise trying to get as much wining as i can rather than raise 1st time and them folding

roger perkins · Jul 2, 2020

leoronin said:
i dont know if this is considered slow roll but for example if i have ace high flush on first flop i check to reel players to bet and check till last call then raise trying to get as much wining as i can rather than raise 1st time and them folding

No that is playing the hand for maximum value.

blackflag · Jul 2, 2020

Hate people who Slowroll, if you obviously have the winning hand, just call straight away, if it's marginal, then by all means take your time!

capo1014 · Jul 21, 2020

Slow play does it pay

Slow play does it pay, you have players that use clock to make the cut. Then their are players that try to discourage you into playing to their hand and you end up losing your hand and a chunk of your stake by using their time/clock. Most of the players like my self use time management when playing for example if you are stacked I will check quickly and if I have a small stack I will slow play. Patience is a virtue pun intended, I mix up my play as to not give any easy identifier as to what I am doing all with my timing like a mouse trap. It works for me and the other players are never sure and then they will respect my play. All the time in the world. Capo1014

sn0112 · Jul 21, 2020

In high stakes online Poker it seems to happen on every single hand. So the pros are using the thinking time and reducing timing tells.

Back in the real world, it's done for many of the reasons mentioned; to provoke tilt, to gloat, to show superiority etc.

GG Poker actually has a card peel/slow roll feature on the river...it's the single most infruiating feature I've seen on any site which means they got it right!

antonis32123 · Jul 27, 2020

If he has it on the river ,yes , it's clearly annoying ,it's like he says '' I want to irritate you or I thonk you are stupid '' , very disrespecting . If he does it many times , no excuse for him , like multitabling , or doing sth else at the same time .

But if it's on the flop , turn , taking his time , as if he wants you to think that he has to make a decision , or play with the timebenk for RNG reasons , ofcourse it might be a way to mislead your decisions , it's part of strategy/game , no offence , he might want to give you false impression for his holding or sth like this

Poker Orifice · Jul 28, 2020

roger perkins said:
OMG people SLOW ROLLING is not SLOW PLAYING. slow rolling is best described as when you have the nutz you absolutely know you are going to win the hand and you let the clock tick down for the dramatic effect. It is a very douchebag move. If you do it at a live table most of the players will call you a douche.

roger perkins said:
ONCE AGAIN SLOW ROLLING IS NOT SLOW PLAYING. Slow playing is using the entire clock no matter what your action is going to be. Slow rolling is knowing positively that you have the other player beat and there is no way he can win and you let the clock roll down just for the drama.

roger perkins said:
Slow playing is a strategy slow rolling is a violation of poker etiquette.

sn0112 said:
In high stakes online Poker it seems to happen on every single hand. So the pros are using the thinking time and reducing timing tells.

Back in the real world, it's done for many of the reasons mentioned; to provoke tilt, to gloat, to show superiority etc.

GG Poker actually has a card peel/slow roll feature on the river...it's the single most infruiating feature I've seen on any site which means they got it right!

Read above.

gallora · Jul 29, 2020

Each player has the right to use any actions within the framework of the tournament regulations.
In addition, not all sit at the screen all the time, many at the same time do something outside the game.

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