AK or 77 allin pre flop

silverslugger33 · Jun 8, 2009

If it's one against the other, I'll take the 77, but assuming it's against something entirely different, I'll take the AK, because it's less likely to be dominated and more likely to be in a dominating position.

bobboss171 · Jun 13, 2009

I think AK has the highest percentage of victory that 77, because the chances of appearing in the A or K flop, turn or river are very good. so are the two highest cards in the deck as you can lose 77 to various combinations.

danchiill · Jun 13, 2009

ak is a good hand but i get snapped a lot with it

Chamaican666 · Jun 15, 2009

bobboss171 said:
I think AK has the highest percentage of victory that 77, because the chances of appearing in the A or K flop, turn or river are very good. so are the two highest cards in the deck as you can lose 77 to various combinations.

AK is actually behind if it was just those two hands heads up, 77 will win 52-55% of the time depending if any of the AK suits match up with any of the 7s. But 77 is an easily dominated hand, and usually at best ur a coinflip. you can never dominate unless somehow someone else pushed with 22-66 with you. Otherwise your either an 80-20 dog or a very very slight favorite. The only hand that you can dominate that isnt an underpair is something like A7. While with AK not only is it hard to be dominated (only by AA and KK) but you can dominate many other hands such as AQ and AJ.

PC69 · Jun 15, 2009

WVHillbilly said:
AK and it's not even close.

Against a range of 77+/AQs+/AK (a realistic range imo for the end of a tourney scenario)

77 against that range: 30.5%
AK against that range: 44%

BTW you have to have TT or better to have better equity against that range than you do with AK.

This. Honestly cant say it better so i wont try lol

fanofbruins · Jun 15, 2009

thank you pokerchild that made great sense. ill take it in to consideration.

Exit141RTe1 · Jun 17, 2009

In my opinion AK is a chip magnet. If I'm shoving, then I prefer a pair.

Jared · Jun 18, 2009

Heads up I'd go with 77 anyday because you'd be leading.
3-way probably still 77 because the other two might have one or both of each others outs.
4 or more it's pretty much a coin flip to decide whether to coin flip or not

1putnik · Mar 6, 2017

On my opinion AK - 77 on preflop all-in it's a roulette. It's 50/50.

doodydota · Mar 6, 2017

If you have more than 20BB then you should not go all-in, but raise with both hands (in most scenarios).

If you have less than 20BB then it's a much better to raise/call with AK, because people will 3bet you with hands like Ax-AT, Kx-KJ that you dominate, but may fold to your shove.

For the same reason it's better to go all-in with 77, because you gain from fold equity when hands like Ax-AT, Kx-KJ fold (granted not always).

ianleel · Mar 6, 2017

I would go with 77 cause u have over 50percent winning over ak

James_Moria · Mar 6, 2017

I also would make an all in preflop with AK but not with 77!!!!!!

fly2tsky · Mar 6, 2017

AK is more of a coin flip than 77, believe it or not

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AKs is usually not with my side though... :'(

chronner575 · Mar 6, 2017

This is a very slippery subject, the fact is that you need to fold for a big raise, so it's safer, but you can go to limps of others, but you need to look at the setting at the table. AK in my opinion you need to always play on the flop, very not a great chance to catch outs. In any case, 77 and AK in position is not the same without position.

Alexandr Svinarshyk · Mar 6, 2017

In tournaments MTT in Allin I go only to AK. 77 only raised. And also everything depends on the position, stack

Dodgethis2k · Mar 6, 2017

...mathematically against any two random unpaired over-cards. Yes, 22 is favored over AK suited or unsuited (approximately 51% to 49%). It's still considered a coin-toss and referred to as a 50-50 decision though.

...and even though it is the best drawing hand pre-flop, it is still a drawing hand. It isn't a pair, and may never be. There is no guarantee you'll improve at all. THAT is why any pair is favored. Don't believe me. Check with ANY Poker Calculator, poker book or well known poker professional.

masha535 · Mar 6, 2017

I go allin preflop in 90% of cases with AK , but never with 77

psmcb · Mar 7, 2017

I think

ROYALKNIGHT said:
Which hand is better pre flop allin?

I noticed alot players go allin with these two hands.

It depends on stack, position, those who mindlessly throw those hands all-in , fish. To increase your chances of winning, you need to know more of the intricacies of the game

sekcapilniqt · Mar 7, 2017

depends how many chips I have depends on how many people enter all-in
of course I prefer Ak in front of 77

PokerNuts01 · Mar 7, 2017

AK! With 77, 66, 55... I like to see flop..

theRaven68 · Mar 8, 2017

It depends on lot of factors but chances are 45,08% for AK and 54,54% for 77

chronner575 · Mar 9, 2017

theRaven68 said:
It depends on lot of factors but chances are 45,08% for AK and 54,54% for 77

This is if we consider in heads up, and if 9max, then everything depends on the position, and the rivals' bets

Poker Orifice · Mar 9, 2017

1putnik said:
On my opinion AK - 77 on preflop all-in it's a roulette. It's 50/50.

You re-opened an 8yr. old thread to post this ^

You're not even answering OP's question. wtf?

Poker Orifice · Mar 9, 2017

Dodgethis2k said:
...and even though it is the best drawing hand pre-flop, it is still a drawing hand. It isn't a pair, and may never be. There is no guarantee you'll improve at all. THAT is why any pair is favored. Don't believe me. Check with ANY Poker Calculator, poker book or well known poker professional.

WVHillbilly said:
AK and it's not even close.

Against a range of 77+/AQs+/AK (a realistic range imo for the end of a tourney scenario)

77 against that range: 30.5%
AK against that range: 44%

BTW you have to have TT or better to have better equity against that range than you do with AK.

You don't even have to check with a well-known poker pro... you can just read back through the thread & find the answer.

Hope this one helps you out.

Have fun on the tables!

miamia · Mar 9, 2017

I am hate low pairs,not remember when i win with small pairs.I call and see if i hit set,but more times i just folded if raise is big.I am choose AK.

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