Finally got through reading the whole thread. (*phew*)
I figured I might as well join in on this. I withdrew 90% of my BR in January, and have been rebuilding my BR through ring games. I started at 2NL, quickly moved to 5NL, and now I've been stuck on 10NL for a couple of months. (mostly because of my poor SNG/MTT results)
I'm currently running at 4.28 PTBB/100 in 22k hands for the last few months at 10NL. So, I'm hoping to move up to 25NL within the next few months.
Don't know if anyone's noticed, but the ring games have gotten juicier this past week or so. Lots of bluffing with nothing, and bad calls on the river. I guess it can be chalked up to students getting out for the summer. Hopefully, it'll mean an easier time for us. 😀
I figured I might as well join in on this. I withdrew 90% of my BR in January, and have been rebuilding my BR through ring games. I started at 2NL, quickly moved to 5NL, and now I've been stuck on 10NL for a couple of months. (mostly because of my poor SNG/MTT results)
I'm currently running at 4.28 PTBB/100 in 22k hands for the last few months at 10NL. So, I'm hoping to move up to 25NL within the next few months.
Don't know if anyone's noticed, but the ring games have gotten juicier this past week or so. Lots of bluffing with nothing, and bad calls on the river. I guess it can be chalked up to students getting out for the summer. Hopefully, it'll mean an easier time for us. 😀
Richyl2008 said:
You play 6max right ?
There is a wealth of information on there.
I only saw a part of the 6max beginners series called Baby Steps.
There is also a moving on up series for 6max by BelugaWhale I believe.
I'd suggest you download their pdf where they lsit every series in order of type of games and 6max/FR..
dsvw56 said:
Exactly!
Use the chart to know what kind of hands to play and what positions to play them in. But be aware of your surroundings. The players around you will eventually let you know what type of player they are and how best to exploit them. So just because a chart tells you to raise JJ in middle position doesn't mean you should 4 bet JJ to two good players in middle position. By that I mean that if there is a raiser and a reraiser in front of you more than likely your JJ is no good and should be tossed.
Another note on hand charts.
I used one when I really started getting serious about poker. And they are very helpful in that setting. They will teach you why you should not call out of position with KTo, Ax, and such. But after you start memorizing the hands and how to play them it is good to let the chart go and start playing more by your hand reading skills and player reading skills.
Hand charts help you until you get to a certain point, then they begin to limit you in a way.
I used one when I really started getting serious about poker. And they are very helpful in that setting. They will teach you why you should not call out of position with KTo, Ax, and such. But after you start memorizing the hands and how to play them it is good to let the chart go and start playing more by your hand reading skills and player reading skills.
Hand charts help you until you get to a certain point, then they begin to limit you in a way.
Thanks guys big help right there much appreciated, I will use the chart as a guide I have set to desktop just to get a start found one with pot odds on it so hopefully just use as a guide when Im stuck.
I have no HUD due to a failed PT3 situation few months ago and cannot afford to buy it so gonna use some freeroll winnings and try to learn through that before I use my bankroll.
Just read your post after I submitted and duly noted I will try this for a week or two and then cut the cord.
I have no HUD due to a failed PT3 situation few months ago and cannot afford to buy it so gonna use some freeroll winnings and try to learn through that before I use my bankroll.
Just read your post after I submitted and duly noted I will try this for a week or two and then cut the cord.
Mr McCluskey said:
try RealTime HUD. 100% free, fairly easy to use, pretty sophisticated. It's basically the foundation on which HEM was built.
www.holdemranger.com
dsvw56 said:
Would playing without a hud at the lowest level be a big deal, you know learn the basics first get some confidance in reading people etc.
Also I am just playing 2$ stacks lowest limit at full tilt shall I start with just one table or can I try two do you think? I have 23 dollars to mess around with right now.
If you are a competent multi-tabler then sure... why not? At leas to the extent your winrate is almost the same. But if you are new to it I wouldn't try to learn that with a 10 buyin bankroll in a game where people are sitting 250bb deep. You want all of your edge spent in building your roll.
As to hand charts... whatever you found on google is likely goodish, but it is far more important at 02nl to know that many of your opponent's hand chart says "Well, what the heck... those two cards could come on the flop" written on it. Only. More than anywhere other than playmoney.
That said you have multitabling nits, maniacs, LAGs, TAGs and th whole gammet. Learn to spot them, and what action to take in hands with them.
As to hand charts... whatever you found on google is likely goodish, but it is far more important at 02nl to know that many of your opponent's hand chart says "Well, what the heck... those two cards could come on the flop" written on it. Only. More than anywhere other than playmoney.
That said you have multitabling nits, maniacs, LAGs, TAGs and th whole gammet. Learn to spot them, and what action to take in hands with them.
dg1267 said:
I have a 100 dollar roll built up at stars through sngs but I am started to get sick of them I put a post a few pages back explaining that I want to start cash games.
Willing to use all the full tilt roll learning may start on one table
RogueRivered said:
My red line goes down at 02nl. Very down. 🙂 As I play higher stakes it starts to flatten out. I imagine if there ever comes a time I am playing 100nl or higher it might switch to positive.
There are two reasons for this (besides the fact that the players at 2nl make a positive nsd line harder).
I am loose. I tend to play loose preflop. Unless I am at a table full of maniacs in which case I tighten up quickly...
Part of the reason for this is I am a single table player. The game is pretty boring at 1 table as a nit. Also, as I tighten up my $/hr winrate goes down. My game gets less swingy too, of course, but I win less. I would NEED to be on 4+ tables to make that style work as good as my LAGgier one.
I am willing to bet dsvw56 playes quite tight and at many tables to get a red line like that at 02nl.
Mr McCluskey said:
Oh, I must've missed that post. Sorry.
I think $100 is enough to make a serious attempt. Personally, I won't deposit more than $50 at a time. But that's because I'm broke!
Just remember to pay close attention to BRM and tilt control. Those two things are what kills me every time.😀
dg1267 said:
Thats ok dg I am keeping that roll there and probally using my small roll at tilt to try the game but enjoy stars more so eventually want to move there, maybe if I can get my tilt roll to 50 then move over.
Thanks for advice everyone, gl at the tables