How to learn to fold top pair?

poliaris747 · Dec 25, 2016

Very interesting hand of the cooler

Now this hand was played! I think it was worth to go all the bank! And what is your opinion?

AntonEast · Dec 25, 2016

A good question to ask yourself preflop is: if I hit top pair at the flop and my opponent bets, do I feel confident with my hand? If the answer is no, you should fold.

Aces2w1n · Dec 26, 2016

how to fold top pair live and online.

1. click fold button using mouse or hotkeys if assigned

live.
1. throw the cards in the middle when you have top pair.

this is a real simplistic way of doing it but its that easy and its real. But this isnt the true question.

We need to practice how operate in these spots. Ask ourselves where we are going to make money.

Some typical questions you want to ask is.
1. What is my opponents range? the tighter the range the easier to fold to 3bets on the flop.

2. Board textures and this goes with the top and also how wide players are.
little side questions.
a. Does my opponent play draws aggressive?
b. Does my opponent over value and get sticky with 2nd pair or 2nd best hands.

Also different stake levels can mean different strategies with players as well.

micros people will raise when strong
higher stakes a raise could mean their weaker

that is just an example

The best way is to practice in spots and watch player types tendencies and go from there.

1. What opponent am i playing against?
2. board texture?
3. What do i beat
4. Do i have backdoor flushes or straights which can help me on future streets..

anyways theres some info... good luck

DontAskWh · Dec 26, 2016

Its hard to fold QQ or KK , but sometimes I even fold JJ or QQ

is depends how it was played pre-flop

if two guys are already on all in pre-flop , and you have a pair of JJ xD I think is easy fold on this situation.
Try to feel what they have , and try to think if they have a better hand than yours , as i said depends how it was played by your opponents.

poliaris747 · Dec 30, 2016

DontAskWh said:
Its hard to fold QQ or KK , but sometimes I even fold JJ or QQ is depends how it was played pre-flop if two guys are already on all in pre-flop , and you have a pair of JJ xD I think is easy fold on this situation.
Try to feel what they have , and try to think if they have a better hand than yours , as i said depends how it was played by your opponents.

In this hand I had KK, is a fast game, each distribution of new opponents!

poliaris747 · Jan 1, 2017

DontAskWh said:
Its hard to fold QQ or KK , but sometimes I even fold JJ or QQ is depends how it was played pre-flop if two guys are already on all in pre-flop , and you have a pair of JJ xD I think is easy fold on this situation.
Try to feel what they have , and try to think if they have a better hand than yours , as i said depends how it was played by your opponents.

Snap is poker! preflop all bidding ended an all in! it was not possible to fold!

poliaris747 · Jan 9, 2017

AntonEast said:
A good question to ask yourself preflop is: if I hit top pair at the flop and my opponent bets, do I feel confident with my hand? If the answer is no, you should fold.

The game was very dynamic, all new players! A decision has been little information!

DontAskWh · Jan 9, 2017

Hello,
I want to say on this situation as already someone told you will be very hard to fold such of hand as QQ , and I think this ain't a mistake you played very well just think this is a kuler.
How to fold such of hand?
Since if you will feel this situation , and you will fold QQ a lot of strong players will think this is a mistake.
Anyway lets think one opponent is making 3 BB , and another opponent is making 4BB , and another opponent is going all in , and now is your decission , and your hand is QQ

I think in such of situation you can fold your premium hand.
Thanks.

skaterick · Jan 9, 2017

Strong no limit cash game players can muck these hands all day . Weak small stakes players and tournament addicts , like most of us , get trapped again and again .

rock0001 · Jan 9, 2017

poliaris747 said:
Greetings! Nverno this subject must be closed! But I do not like I can not bring myself and disposing these QQ,! Lose and lose, it is just not understandable, why? Why do they persist lose? And why I can not and disposing them?
Help advice how to learn to just throw in the trash QQ, Look, I already wrote a post about the loss of the top pair! https://www.cardschat.com/forum/poker-goals-challenges-wins-46/qq-return-duty-307682/

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well,in this particular hand you were just unlucky. folding pocket queens on this board without any overcard and no double jacks or tens its tough. however you should also think that villain might hit a set or have a bigger pair so its very important to put villain on a range and then based on how loose or tight he plays you can either shove allin, call or fold the hand.
folding a top pair with a good or the best kicker is never easy however it depends on how well you can read villains hand and how many chips are you willing to risk in that spot.

chronical · Jan 10, 2017

lose lots of money an it will come =)

UJaseN · Jan 10, 2017

Well what could i say mate , sometimes the game just sets you up and you cant do nothing.
You should concetrate more on your opponent, and still isnt enought you must have a 6th feeling for the cituation

poliaris747 · Jan 14, 2017

UJaseN said:
Well what could i say mate , sometimes the game just sets you up and you cant do nothing.
You should concetrate more on your opponent, and still isnt enought you must have a 6th feeling for the cituation

Yes, I sometimes make my moves just by listening to your 6 senses! And quite often it brings victory!

poliaris747 · Jan 17, 2017

vitja0101 said:
everything is in your hands well, or good luck to you will help

Thank you for the support of the other players is very important to me! You also luck at the poker tables!

goof230 · Jan 17, 2017

Jokerstars

Sure is hard playing pockets on this game

uready4dis · Jan 17, 2017

really hard sumtimes to fold top pair but sum times u have to swallow ur pride n fold em.

diego farfan · Jan 17, 2017

Usually happens that I prefer to go up gradually and go with everything when I have a ladder or a trio at least

poliaris747 · Jan 19, 2017

diego farfan said:
Usually happens that I prefer to go up gradually and go with everything when I have a ladder or a trio at least

But when each new hand, new opponents, it is necessary to make quick decisions!

ubo · Jan 19, 2017

probably hard to learn, you need to stop and consider the top pair of some sort of super cards, but with them, win more often, but I believe that the QQ on reuris either get or make a call ...
There are just rather not have to learn, it is necessary to make a rule... and all

diego farfan · Jan 19, 2017

In that you have all the reason but you always have to take the decisions based on a brief analysis

Dingospo · Jan 25, 2017

Doubledunk said:
What if your already pot committed?

You will see if your hand is the strongest. If there is no possibility for another to have flush, poker, full... You need to feel it.

UrsinusMaximus · Jan 25, 2017

Hmm it depends how deep the stacks were in this case.
Despite no flush or straight opportunities, I would be worried with just a pair that they might have a set of jacks or tens (depending how they behaved preflop) and would be reluctant to commit unless short stacked.

I mean what are they shoving that we can beat? AJ is the only likely hand that comes to mind, but I don't feel that is a shove hand, more a value bet hand.

Of course, I would be VERY tempted to call the shove just to see what they were playing at...

Sebas1006 · Jan 27, 2017

Even though you have one of the top pairs you might wanna consider folding them if the cards are not in your favor. I always tell myself "I'm I commited enough to go all in with these cards?".

poliaris747 · Jan 28, 2017

Sebas1006 said:
Even though you have one of the top pairs you might wanna consider folding them if the cards are not in your favor. I always tell myself "I'm I commited enough to go all in with these cards?".

The format of the game does not give much thought at the time!

christopherlouorlina · Jan 29, 2017

I guess everyone has their stories about Queens..I guess this boils down to your opponents style, against tight players I am cautious in playing QQ including JJ and 1010..against looser players I play them like kings or aces..it boils down on how well you know your opponents.

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