How to learn to fold top pair?

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  • #76
all pic you guys upload is so sick hand..!!!! but for me its easy to deal when you lose but you shoved it in prefloop bcouse fold thats hand in online poker its very hard and the time bank you get for think is only 2min max so i prefer go big or go home..
 
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best way to learn it, is by not doing it. Maybe you get it some time, maybe you don't. But if you tangle all the time in that situation, it will distract you.
 
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  • #78
It all starts with reading your opponent before you even get to play that hand. If it is a new opponent it will be more difficult, but not impossible!
Reading your opponent's cards and bets is the key to learning to fold.
If the table does not provide a bluff for him, start to be suspicious of the chips he puts on the table!
But still, most of the time your opponent has smaller pair.

PS: sometimes the merit is all of the opponent :D
 
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  • #79
recerveau said:
It all starts with reading your opponent before you even get to play that hand. If it is a new opponent it will be more difficult, but not impossible!
Reading your opponent's cards and bets is the key to learning to fold.
If the table does not provide a bluff for him, start to be suspicious of the chips he puts on the table!
But still, most of the time your opponent has smaller pair.

PS: sometimes the merit is all of the opponent :D

I think it is interesting to say!

we need to understand and heed. Thank you!
Unfortunately, I can not give such good advice. . . I'm just starting to learn poker.
and I try to play, though so far without success. . .
 
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itarus said:
I think it is interesting to say!

we need to understand and heed. Thank you!
Unfortunately, I can not give such good advice. . . I'm just starting to learn poker.
and I try to play, though so far without success. . .

The path of learning never ends !! I do not know what else was in the way! But the main thing is not to stop learning !!
 
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recerveau said:
It all starts with reading your opponent before you even get to play that hand. If it is a new opponent it will be more difficult, but not impossible!
Reading your opponent's cards and bets is the key to learning to fold.
If the table does not provide a bluff for him, start to be suspicious of the chips he puts on the table!
But still, most of the time your opponent has smaller pair.

PS: sometimes the merit is all of the opponent :D

yes to every opponent you need to find your key! if you know opponents are thinking, then you have the advantage!
 
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Pessoa said:
best way to learn it, is by not doing it. Maybe you get it some time, maybe you don't. But if you tangle all the time in that situation, it will distract you.

Time teaches us, and in every situation you can make another decision! I currently have probably played on another
 
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This hand is very difficult to throw topom table, and a vacuum is almost impossible. Such a situation simply must not forget and do not get hung up.
 
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  • #84
If few people behind you play allin something can be wrong. Sometimes when I got JJ or QQ on late position and few opponents playing allin i decide to fold.
 
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May be human mind is structured to remember forever bad hands with top kards
 
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Example of bad hand I will remember forever -spin and go in PKR,1 USD, 320 USD for the winner my hand-K9,opponents- AD, all in, turn-K10 , 9 flop J,and river....K.Think the second player has thrown his computer down on the floor together with the AKDJ10
 
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In fact it is very difficult to get over it most of the time when this situation occurs. But the secret to KK and AA's stealth is the psychological side, the way your opponent has been playing. So always start a tournament focused on your opponent's reading (from start to finish of the tournament). :)
 
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recerveau said:
In fact it is very difficult to get over it most of the time when this situation occurs. But the secret to KK and AA's stealth is the psychological side, the way your opponent has been playing. So always start a tournament focused on your opponent's reading (from start to finish of the tournament). :)

Hi, what would not be a psychological portrait of an opponent, the highest top pair does not throw !!
 
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You need to learn and the roockie too to fold top pair on straight draw or heavy board , flush draw etc... Dont go too crazy with that top pair. playing strong but not too crazy ;)
 
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Senneville said:
You need to learn and the roockie too to fold top pair on straight draw or heavy board , flush draw etc... Dont go too crazy with that top pair. playing strong but not too crazy ;)

If the opponent is crazy and goes all in, I could not answer!
 
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depends what type of game you are playing.. super turbo or turbo... If you have no information about your player and you have 20BB in a fast pace game i don't think you can avoid an all in with top pair ;)
 
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If you observe your opponent's carefully and analyze what hands they get to showdown with it will be easier to know whether you should fold or continue with one pair hands against them.
 
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PokerNuts01 said:
depends what type of game you are playing.. super turbo or turbo... If you have no information about your player and you have 20BB in a fast pace game i don't think you can avoid an all in with top pair ;)

That's right, I played exactly in such games, there is not a lot of time to study the enemy!
 
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Senneville said:
You need to learn and the roockie too to fold top pair on straight draw or heavy board , flush draw etc... Dont go too crazy with that top pair. playing strong but not too crazy ;)

Yes, you need to part with the top pair when the opponent can have a stronger combination on the table! It's better to lose part of your stack than to stay without all the chips that are available! Thanks for the advice, unfortunately we learn from our mistakes!
 
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The only reason to fold a premium pocketpair (QQ+) preflop for me is when you go descently deep in a tourney, playing with the same 9 (or 8) players for quite some hands. If someone tends to be pretty tight and shoves 15+BB, I think you should fold TT to QQ (KK and AA is a call no matter what)
Folding KK preflop is only something to do if you are on the bubble with an average sized to short stack. When a thight player shoves for more than 85% of you stack, you can fold KK to avoid bubbeling. If you have a real short stack (like -8BB) you should only fold premium hands if there is someone even shorter and likely to bust before you
 
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It is never easy to fold top pairs, but if you get beat a lot with top pairs.... you'll start learning how to fold them eventually. Experience will teach you how not to look at your top pair cards, but to look and analyze what your opponent might be holding.
I still get busted by playing these top pairs blindly but i know i will learn to fold them more often.
 
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to fold top pair is hard I am still learning.recently on TV, the tournament was dropped a couple of KK the opponent was a pair of TT
 
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GRIN281289 said:
to fold top pair is hard I am still learning.recently on TV, the tournament was dropped a couple of KK the opponent was a pair of TT

Yes, the science of making time fold is not easy! We do not often get such cards and it's hard to part with them !!
 
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it is really urgent issue, it is difficult to say.
situations are different, you never know what card is next fall
 
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John Bor said:
it is really urgent issue, it is difficult to say.
situations are different, you never know what card is next fall

This is the beauty of poker! Each distribution is not like the other, as many options as possible to play, that the head just breaks!
 
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