Jurn8 said:
Good stuff Jake!
Listen guys, you will only get something out of this thread if your willing to actually put something in to it. Do some research on the topics, write it out in your own words and post it here. It's a great way to get you guys thinking about the game more. Don't worry if you think it's too simple, or you think some of the content may not be correct, at the end of the day it's a discussion thread. The more experienced members can pipe in and correct any inaccuracies, if needs be.
Did I make the right play here, or did I just get lucky?
Stage #1244172377: Holdem No Limit $0.10 - 2009-02-05 11:09:56 (ET)
Table: AMES AVE (real money) Seat #3 is the dealer
Seat 3 - RUSDRUNKFISH ($12.49 in chips)
Seat 4 - ERIC35 ($11.98 in chips)
Seat 5 - BELPHIGORE ($14.43 in chips)
Seat 6 - JONYJONS ($8.09 in chips)
Seat 1 - FLO21800 ($4.20 in chips)
Seat 2 - DCRYS1979 ($8.66 in chips)
ERIC35 - Posts small blind $0.05
BELPHIGORE - Posts big blind $0.10
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to DCRYS1979 [Ah Jh]
JONYJONS - Raises $0.35 to $0.35
FLO21800 - Folds
DCRYS1979 - Calls $0.35
RUSDRUNKFISH - Folds
ERIC35 - Folds
BELPHIGORE - Calls $0.25
*** FLOP *** [Kc 4h 7h]
BELPHIGORE - Bets $0.30
JONYJONS - Raises $2 to $2
DCRYS1979 - Calls $2
BELPHIGORE - All-In(Raise) $13.78 to $14.08
JONYJONS - All-In $5.74
DCRYS1979 - All-In $6.31
BELPHIGORE - returned ($5.77) : not called
*** TURN *** [Kc 4h 7h] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [Kc 4h 7h 3h] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DCRYS1979 - Shows [Ah Jh] (Flush, ace high)
BELPHIGORE - Shows [Kh Qs] (Flush, king high)
JONYJONS - Shows [Ac Ad] (One pair, aces)
DCRYS1979 Collects $1.09 from side pot-1
DCRYS1979 Collects $23.10 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($25.46:$24.32,$1.14) | Rake ($1.27:$1.22,$0.05)
Board [Kc 4h 7h 3h 8h]
Seat 1: FLO21800 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: DCRYS1979 won Total ($24.19) All-In HI🙁$24.19) with Flush, ace high [Ah Jh - P:Ah,P:Jh,B:8h,B:7h,B:4h]
Seat 3: RUSDRUNKFISH (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: ERIC35 (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: BELPHIGORE (big blind) HI:lost with Flush, king high [Kh Qs - P:Kh,B:8h,B:7h,B:4h,B:3h]
Seat 6: JONYJONS HI:lost with One pair, aces [Ac Ad - P:Ad,P:Ac,B:Kc,B:8h,B:7h]
Stage #1244172377: Holdem No Limit $0.10 - 2009-02-05 11:09:56 (ET)
Table: AMES AVE (real money) Seat #3 is the dealer
Seat 3 - RUSDRUNKFISH ($12.49 in chips)
Seat 4 - ERIC35 ($11.98 in chips)
Seat 5 - BELPHIGORE ($14.43 in chips)
Seat 6 - JONYJONS ($8.09 in chips)
Seat 1 - FLO21800 ($4.20 in chips)
Seat 2 - DCRYS1979 ($8.66 in chips)
ERIC35 - Posts small blind $0.05
BELPHIGORE - Posts big blind $0.10
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to DCRYS1979 [Ah Jh]
JONYJONS - Raises $0.35 to $0.35
FLO21800 - Folds
DCRYS1979 - Calls $0.35
RUSDRUNKFISH - Folds
ERIC35 - Folds
BELPHIGORE - Calls $0.25
*** FLOP *** [Kc 4h 7h]
BELPHIGORE - Bets $0.30
JONYJONS - Raises $2 to $2
DCRYS1979 - Calls $2
BELPHIGORE - All-In(Raise) $13.78 to $14.08
JONYJONS - All-In $5.74
DCRYS1979 - All-In $6.31
BELPHIGORE - returned ($5.77) : not called
*** TURN *** [Kc 4h 7h] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [Kc 4h 7h 3h] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DCRYS1979 - Shows [Ah Jh] (Flush, ace high)
BELPHIGORE - Shows [Kh Qs] (Flush, king high)
JONYJONS - Shows [Ac Ad] (One pair, aces)
DCRYS1979 Collects $1.09 from side pot-1
DCRYS1979 Collects $23.10 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($25.46:$24.32,$1.14) | Rake ($1.27:$1.22,$0.05)
Board [Kc 4h 7h 3h 8h]
Seat 1: FLO21800 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: DCRYS1979 won Total ($24.19) All-In HI🙁$24.19) with Flush, ace high [Ah Jh - P:Ah,P:Jh,B:8h,B:7h,B:4h]
Seat 3: RUSDRUNKFISH (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: ERIC35 (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: BELPHIGORE (big blind) HI:lost with Flush, king high [Kh Qs - P:Kh,B:8h,B:7h,B:4h,B:3h]
Seat 6: JONYJONS HI:lost with One pair, aces [Ac Ad - P:Ad,P:Ac,B:Kc,B:8h,B:7h]
orangepeeleo said:
There's a new program out that combines all of these into one program and has some other features i haven't seen available through AHKscripts.
It's called TableNinja and is still in Beta testing for now so try it out and see if you like it. If you need help setting it up shoot me a PM as I've been using it for a couple weeks now.
http://www.tableninja.com
Jurn8 said:
Whoa, whoa. I've been given an assignment? I wanted to see if a leftover topic was something I could handle.
D'wilius said:
fwiw this is all I know about cbetting...
https://www.cardschat.com/showpost953785-post1.html
Seriously though, I won't be on the cpu for a week after today so you might want to reassign this.
dg1267 said:
DG - its very difficult to give advice on a hand without stats or reads, so given that we'll treat it as your 1st hand at the table. My standard play with AJs in the c/o is to 3bet. I don't like flatting here b/c we leave ourself open to sqz plays from the btn/blinds. If I were otb, then sometimes I'll call b/c I now have prime position.
On the flop, I pretty much always jam with the nut fl dr. I hate calling as were not getting the right price, although we have implied odds. However, how often do we get paid off if we hit our flush on the turn. So for me I pretty much play my draws aggro in this situation. Not saying that's the ideal play, as I'm sure other 6max players may play it a little more passively.
Crystal Blue said:
Steveg1976 said:
Jurn8 said:
Thank you for those other links guys, I have read them both and pretty much have my strategy worked out now. Thx to tenbob, chucks and jurn for writing them up.
The one thing I have noticed at this level so far, is that the vast majority just don't respect a button raise/steal. I'm unsure a lot of them even know what I am attempting which bodes well in some ways I guess. But from what what I've witnessed so far, if I don't have a couple of nits to my left, ATS seems fairly fruitless.
With that in mind, table selection becomes much more important. However, I am finding it difficult to find the ideal tables without spending a lot of time sitting in, waiting for the big blind, and then waiting for HUD to kick in and gather the information I need on the players to my immediate left to establish if they are suitable for steals.
I suppose gathering a suitable amount of hands on players is the only option available to me really, unless I'm missing something.
Cheers.
Crystal Blue said:
Agreed that they dont respect stealing much but this is where position and cbetting come in to play. Alot call from the blinds but then when you fire a Cbet at them or re raise their $0.05 donk bet they will fold most of the time but if you meet resistance that means they probably will have a hand.
A HUD is such a valuable tool and fold to cbet stat will help you know when to fire a Cbet out at them and also the steal stats.
Crystal Blue said:
It's not bad for you if they don't fold to steals because you get to play a raised pot in position. Just tighten up your steals a little bit (so stop stealing with J2 or whatever) and cbet a ton. Most of the blind defenders just want to see a flop so make them pay to do it and take the pot away when they miss.
Jagsti said:
Thanks for the advice. And both of these guys were over 45/25 in stats. I've been tryin to pay a lot more attention to stats lately and it really does seem to help.
Also, I'm not real aggressive without a made hand. I don't like to bet on draws much, and I think most of that is because I'm really not rolled for this stake yet.