**Official Micro Stakes Madness 5NL,10NL,25NL Focus Group**

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Steveg1976 said:
DG, what hand that you beat does he call with in this spot?

A Q high flushdraw ? Does that happen anymore at 10nl ?
lol I don't know. Disregard my comment.
 
sindri_93 said:
In the future post this in the HA section.
But u really should be paying him on the turn imo,the check is horrible and the river shove is almost as bad imo.
You have TPTK+nut FD= ton of equity,equity u lose every time u check and a card like the 3s hits.
You got a strong but vulnurable hand so u have to protect it+get value from worse.....BET! 😉
Dont mind calling the river but hat raising it.

Idk what you mean by pushing on the river?? I pushed on the turn. I know I should've bet the flop (even though I really don't think he's letting go of his hand), but I wasn't too worried about the flush or flush draw hands.

And I've got him beat on most hands he could be holding. He had been calling a lot of raises at the table after just calling the blinds. Tbh, I was putting him on a Kx hand. He had done this same thing several times before with TPBK. He would check the flop and if nobody showed any strength he would come out firing on the turn.
 
sindri_93 said:
In the future post this in the HA section.

:icon_thum Agreed, this is a good place to post general microstakes questions/discussions but if the content could be its own thread just link to it from here imo. 😉
 
dg1267 said:
Idk what you mean by pushing on the river?? I pushed on the turn. I know I should've bet the flop (even though I really don't think he's letting go of his hand), but I wasn't too worried about the flush or flush draw hands.

And I've got him beat on most hands he could be holding. He had been calling a lot of raises at the table after just calling the blinds. Tbh, I was putting him on a Kx hand. He had done this same thing several times before with TPBK. He would check the flop and if nobody showed any strength he would come out firing on the turn.
Ignore my post i misread the HH 😱.
Thought u had bet the flop,checked the turn,shoved the river...my bad
 
sindri_93 said:
Ignore my post i misread the HH 😱.
Thought u had bet the flop,checked the turn,shoved the river...my bad

No prob.😀

And I will start putting them in HA and linking. Sorry about that, but I was pissed atm.
 
dakota-xx said:
So it is all I can do to fly to a table that already has 8/9 and beat someone to the seat. I just tried looking at some of those table stats and the tables would disappear so fast it was ridiculous.

Do you guys get on wait lists when you find tables you like?

Yes, all the time. I actually barely ever sit at a table that currently has empty seats. Those are hardly ever good anyway. Also, it takes some time to select the 6 to 12 tables i want to play, so while i do that, it doesn't matter that i have to wait. And you can always check how good the table still is when you get a chance to sit down. On the other hand i don't get on waiting lists that are too long as the table dynamics would be completely different once i get to sit.
 
BelgoSuisse said:
Yes, all the time. I actually barely ever sit at a table that currently has empty seats. Those are hardly ever good anyway. Also, it takes some time to select the 6 to 12 tables i want to play, so while i do that, it doesn't matter that i have to wait. And you can always check how good the table still is when you get a chance to sit down. On the other hand i don't get on waiting lists that are too long as the table dynamics would be completely different once i get to sit.

Hmm maybe I should start doing the same, I just simply open 8 seated tables, maybe this could increase my winrate if I did this. How many deep on the waiting list would you go up to ? 1/2 ?
 
Jurn8 said:
Hmm maybe I should start doing the same, I just simply open 8 seated tables, maybe this could increase my winrate if I did this. How many deep on the waiting list would you go up to ? 1/2 ?

Depends. Also, lately i've started mixing 100nl and 200nl tables so i can actually table select better.

Usually I don't mind getting into long queues as i can still check the table quality when i'm offered a seat there and decline if it degraded somewhat. On FT i just keep all the tables where i'm in the waiting list open (hidden behind the tables i play) so that my HUD has stats on all players when i can finally sit. If a really good table opens up while i'm already playing the number of tables i want, i'll select the least good one among those and leave it. Closing bad tables is just as important as opening good ones, imo.
 
Also, it's not always easy to decide on the quality of a table through its global stats. Some of the best tables have very average looking global stats as they mix super-nits and loose passive fishes. if you actually manage to sit with the fishes on your right and the nits on your left, money will flow into your pockets in a steady flow of NSD winnings. Lovely.

Best way to figure it out if you don't already have stats on the players is to play the tables for a couple of orbits and then decide if you want to keep the table open. Also, once you've been playing the limit for a while, most nits you will already have stats on them as they are poor multitabling regs, and most people you have no hands on are fishes.
 
BelgoSuisse said:
Also, once you've been playing the limit for a while, most nits you will already have stats on them as they are poor multitabling regs, and most people you have no hands on are fishes.

Very true, I noticed this the other day, i have an 8/2 reg nit that i like to find on stars whos super easy to steal from and folds to a cbet like 80% lol when he posts his blind its just begging to be stolen!!
 
Right this is obviously what you want me to do. Im going to start my own thread and teach beginners some proper hardcore oldschool poker strategy. The MATelford thread llf!
 
Big Improvements

I just wanted to thank Jurn for creating this thread and all the input from the more experienced members I've definitely seen a tremendous improvement in my game. After starting to follow this thread for about 2 weeks I've bumped down to 10NL, started only looking at my cashier and HEM stats once a week and have increased my BR by more then 20% already. The tips and discussion has been invaluable! To throw a question into the mix when you want to put in a long session ie. 3-8 hours, do you ride it straight through for the most part or take breaks like once every hour or so? I find it extremely hard to concentrate too much longer then 2 hours without needing a few breaks here and there. Just curious what the norm is.
 
Caseace48 said:
I just wanted to thank Jurn for creating this thread and all the input from the more experienced members I've definitely seen a tremendous improvement in my game. After starting to follow this thread for about 2 weeks I've bumped down to 10NL, started only looking at my cashier and HEM stats once a week and have increased my BR by more then 20% already. The tips and discussion has been invaluable! To throw a question into the mix when you want to put in a long session ie. 3-8 hours, do you ride it straight through for the most part or take breaks like once every hour or so? I find it extremely hard to concentrate too much longer then 2 hours without needing a few breaks here and there. Just curious what the norm is.

I personally like to do short sessions, ie 1-2 hours at a time, ~3 sessions/day.
 
I personally like to do short sessions, ie 1-2 hours at a time, ~3 sessions/day.

x2. I think today I probably played about 3 1/2-4 hours, but was broken up into three sessions.
 
I really need a sweat session! Do I have to have skype to do this. My b/r is depleting by the second. I really don't know what I'm doing wrong, but I have a feeling I'm not aggro enough.

If anyone wants to help me here please post the times that you will be available. I'll be gone for a little while tomorrow around noon, but for the most part will be here all day.
 
dg1267 said:
I really need a sweat session! Do I have to have skype to do this. My b/r is depleting by the second. I really don't know what I'm doing wrong, but I have a feeling I'm not aggro enough.

If anyone wants to help me here please post the times that you will be available. I'll be gone for a little while tomorrow around noon, but for the most part will be here all day.

I can sweat pretty much all day, bear in mind I'm GMT+1 and if you want someone playing higher limits, or at all for that matter 🙂, that's cool.

Yes, skype would be best since it's what almost everybody uses for talking during sweats.

If you already have it installed I can also use ventrilo or Teamspeak, but unless you played video games online or something I doubt it 🙂.

Shoot me a pm.
 
Ok peeps, this month I have decided to see what I can do at this ring stuff. Keep in mind, i have never really taken the game all that seriously, although I always put forth my best effort when I do play. I just never really bothered to learn and put forth the time.

I read a lot of this thread and I figured I would contribute what I can and try to learn what I can. Before I posted in here, I decided that I would at least get a couple thousand hands under my belt first.

My poker carreer thus far has been mostly MTT and SNG, with the occasional drunken late night 2NL CC game. For a bit I was playing 2NL on stars pretty regularly, but to be honest it was just to mindnumbing to continue it. Thats when I took a two week break from the game, so at the end of january I started at Full Tilt 10NL.

Keep in mind that, the amount of time I get to play during any given day is pretty limited, and until I get my bankroll up enough to support a couple of tables at a time and get used to playing more than one table at a time, this will have to do. Slow and steady.

Here is my graph from my first 2k+ hands.

Pt graph 1

Up unitl now, I have made my CC living in the players lounge, and for some idiotic reason, avoiding the actual poker sections of this forum. I started getting bored with CC and this is another reason for me trying to get involved here.

At my home games, i'm a superstar because I can talk the lingo and generally know more about the game then my friends. On here, I am a complete noob. Even though i've been around here for a while, i am probably gonna ask so noob questions so please bear with me. thanks.
 
Chiefer, step one is get the hell off Full Tilt at 10nl and watch your winrate skyrocket. I don't know what rake is in PTBB/100 or w/e but the rake at Full Tilt is double what it is at any other site at 10nl. If you want your money move to Stars send me a pm and I can get you a transfer, there really is no reason to play 10nl on Full Tilt unless you are getting 50%+ rakeback (which no one gets).
 
I am not set up with a rakeback account there. I have been thinking of moving it to stars. I am running fairly well at tilt at the moment and I would hate to jinx myself as I am sorta superstitious. I have paid a ridiculous amount of rake though.

what is the usual rakeback percentage? Is it possible to get a rakeback account if you've already signed up?
 
chiefer77 said:
what is the usual rakeback percentage? Is it possible to get a rakeback account if you've already signed up?
1) 27%
2) Sometimes its possible, but if you signed up with another affiliate, no way.
3) Stop playing 10NL at FTP, because 10% rake sucks.
 
zachvac said:
I don't know what rake is in PTBB/100 or w/e but the rake at Full Tilt is double what it is at any other site at 10nl.

I'm playing 10NL at both FT and at PS, didn't realize that I'm paying more to play at one site than the other... I just checked PT, and for the last 3,463 hands on PS $10NL my total rake was $25.50, while for the last 1,567 hands on FT total rake was $20.95 😱 😱 😱

Is there a post here on CC (or anywhere) that identifies rake by level by site? I don't see anything on FT's or PS's websites showing this...
 
slycbnew said:
I'm playing 10NL at both FT and at PS, didn't realize that I'm paying more to play at one site than the other... I just checked PT, and for the last 3,463 hands on PS $10NL my total rake was $25.50, while for the last 1,567 hands on FT total rake was $20.95 😱 😱 😱

Is there a post here on CC (or anywhere) that identifies rake by level by site? I don't see anything on FT's or PS's websites showing this...

learn something new everyday eh?
 
bob_tiger said:
learn something new everyday eh?

Virtually every time I scan this site, I learn something new.

Usually, it's of the "Hey, that's $%#%in' cool!" variety of newness... 😀

Occasionally, as here, it's of the "$%##, I'm a fish, and I'm now totally depressed" variety... 🙁

This thread is awesome, incidentally, thanks to Jurn8 for starting it and everyone here contributing to it...
 
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